Shock: Christian Coalition founder Pat Robertson favors marijuana legalization
Count this among the 10 things nobody ever expected to see in their lifetimes: 700 Club founder Pat Robertson, one of the cornerstone figures of America's Christian right movement, has come out in favor of legalizing marijuana.
Calling it getting "smart" on crime, Robertson aired a clip on a recent episode of his 700 Club television show that advocated the viewpoint of drug law reformers who run prison outreach ministries.
A narrator even claimed that religious prison outreach has "saved" millions in public funds by helping to reduce the number of prisoners who return shortly after being released....
It's amazing how the Statists so easily defend their master and the thousands (?) of deadly, mind/body-altering, magical pharmaceuticals and vaccines, with vaccines even being made with cells of aborted babies. But that's all fine and dandy, because "Luke was an Allopath" boo hoo hoo.
Such deception and blindness on SA, especially Alan H.
Should marijuana be legal or not? The Bible says that a man should be held responsible for his actions. So, smoke the weed and be responsible for your health care, smoke the weed and while on a high you run over someone and injury them then you pay, no bankruptcy, no crying about hard times, you spend the rest of your life if necessary paying for the harm you caused. God forbid you kill someone while on a high...then your outta here! Folks cry about wanting this or that legalized but are they willing to take the responsiblity that comes with the right?
I'm always amazed at the arguments on this topic. The old "if it comes from the earth than its natural and therefore must be from God argument." The problem with those who use that argument are presupposing there were thorns and thisthles, hallucigenetic plants and mushrooms, and marijuana prior to the fall of man. Genesis 3:17-18 says the ground was cursed and bad fruit didn't start growing until after the fall. So if marijuana is natural because it grows from the earth than how come your not smoking Oleander plant... or how come your not eating uranium? There's an old cliche statement that I live by, if Jesus was standing next to me would I be doing this? So the question is, if Jesus was standing in front of you, would he have a problem with you getting high? Galations 5:20 calls "pharmakia" or drugs, witchcraft and sorcery and it says that those who practice sorcery and drunkenness will not inherit the kingdom of Heaven.
If you want the government to restrict marijuana, be careful what YOU ask for. Don't come crying when you are no longer allowed to buy sudafed over the counter. Think things through, and don't impose 21st century biases on scripture.
This JPW was simply stating that seeds of the natural order build up (good nutrition) society. She didn't even make mention of illegal seeds. Since when do you equate "natural" seeds from the earth to something that is "illegal"? If you know how to cook the "old way" instead of eating everything out of a box from Walmart, then you would understand that most foods originate as seeds/grains/nuts. It is man who has refined everything good out of the "seeds" and is left with a 21st century product that is stripped of its natural nutrition, and then man has to add sythetic minerals and vitamins back into it to give it "nutritional worth."
There is nothing immoral about protecting and cultivation natural seeds. People who want to control all seeds, will control everyone, including the food supply.
Kyle wrote: Methinks your opinions are tainted by the culture in which you live. The coercive power of the state should only be used to enforce our natural rights and nothing more. The use of marijuana, as stupid as it is, should not be restricted. It's not that intoxicating substances are good or that I want to use them (I don't). It's just that their restriction is outside the rightful function of secular government.
Careful you don't get what you wish for.
Jud 21:25 In those days there was no king in Israel: every man did that which was right in his own eyes.
Methinks your opinions are tainted by the culture in which you live. The coercive power of the state should only be used to enforce our natural rights and nothing more. The use of marijuana, as stupid as it is, should not be restricted.
It's not that intoxicating substances are good or that I want to use them (I don't). It's just that their restriction is outside the rightful function of secular government.
Again the problem emerges because of the Liberal mind-set which grows in the western nations. Take away the laws (authority) and allow people to do their own thing regardless.
"By the mid-1930s, cannabis, or marijuana, as a drug was regulated in every state by laws instituted through the Uniform State Narcotic Drug Act.
In the 1970s, many places in the United States started to decriminalize cannabis. Most places that have decriminalized cannabis have one or more of civil fines, drug education, drug treatment in place of incarceration, criminal charges for possession of small amounts of cannabis, or have made various cannabis offenses the lowest priority for law enforcement. In the 1990s many places began to legalize medical cannabis, which conflicts with federal laws, as cannabis is a Schedule I drug according to the Controlled Substances Act of 1970, which classified cannabis as having high potential for abuse, no medical use, and not safe to use under medical supervision. Multiple efforts to reschedule cannabis have failed and the United States Supreme Court has ruled in United States v. Oakland Cannabis Buyers' Coop and Gonzales v. Raich that the federal government has a right to regulate and criminalize cannabis, even for medical purposes." (Wiki)
jpw wrote: the seeds of the earth can be used for good and can be twisted for harm. just like the grape seed. today, man genetically alters a seed and gets a patent. A seed that belongs to God and mankind is stamped with someone's name on it and is no longer free. He owns it and is demanding payment from farmers across the globe. this seed makes people sick. if you want just laws, you must know the times you live in. trivia question: what was the rope made of that was used on colonial ships?
Ropes were made from Hemp therefore people should smoke Pot?
I guess since baseball bats are made from wood we should hit ourselves on the head with them.
Take it from someone who used to use pot; nothing good ever came of it. If someone is in pain, there are better reliefs. If medicine can be derived from it, it can be done without the deliterous effects.
You obviously havn't smoked any today, or you wouldn't have had the presence of mind to write so extensivly. If you have smoked some and want to tell aboput it, I might have some DEA and Secret Service friends in your area that would be interested in hearing about it.
righteous law is necessary! unrighteous law is an unnecessary yoke on the people.
the seeds of the earth can be used for good and can be twisted for harm. just like the grape seed.
today, man genetically alters a seed and gets a patent. A seed that belongs to God and mankind is stamped with someone's name on it and is no longer free. He owns it and is demanding payment from farmers across the globe. this seed makes people sick.
if you want just laws, you must know the times you live in.
trivia question: what was the rope made of that was used on colonial ships?
jpw wrote: perhaps some would argue that grapes should be illegal since people make alcohol with it?
apparently the ropes the founding fathers used on their ships would be illegal today.
synthetics are moral, natural seed isn't, or what?
jpw,
Law is necessary because men are not generally self-governing creatures. In an absence of government there is always anarchy. Man also tends to corrupt that which in itself is not inherently evil. "Guns don't kill people..."
Mr 7:20 "And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man."
And:
Jas 1:13 "Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:"
Jas 1:14 "But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed."
Jas 1:15 "Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death."
Mike was right. Robertson did not say he favored legalizing pot. The news source is trying to make a story where there is none, by making it sound like there is a groundswell of conservatives that want to legalize drugs. It's liberal thinking that says "If we make everything legal, crime will go down".
Having said that; ther are a lot of issues involved in the video clip. Two of which I don't agree with. The foremost is the old idea that we should rehabilitate instead of punish. Well; it's not an either or situation. Prisons are for punishment of crimes and should be kept as such. Rehabilitation is desirable [regeneration is better] but should not replace punishment. Second was the comment about taking things off the books that arn't really crimes. That opens a can of worms. They Are crimes because they are on the books. But I do understand making the punishment fit the crime.
Alan H wrote: Whose shocked? I'm not! "A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither [can] a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit." Mt 7:18
Alan: I Wonder If He's ALSO One Of Those Who Have Advocated "LIQUID DEVIL", "BOOZE", ALCOHOLIC "STRONG-DRINK" &-Or THE LIQUID DRUG-OF-DRUGS: "STRONG WINE":
"(STRONG) WINE IS A MOCKER, STRONG DRINK IS RAGING: AND WHOSOEVER IS DECEIVED THEREBY IS NOT WISE."--PROVERBS 20:1 !