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THURSDAY, DEC 16, 2010  |  33 comments  |  1 commentary
Bush: Religion Is Not a Course in Self-Improvement
Former president George W. Bush admitted in a recent interview that he was drunk when he met evangelist Billy Graham.

"I was listening to Billy through the haze of alcohol," he told Focus on the Family president Jim Daly.

The interview, which took place in Dallas last week, was broadcast on the ministry's daily radio program on Monday and Tuesday. It was one of many interviews the former president has been granting to promote his memoir Decision Points. But in the Focus on the Family interview, Bush opened up more about his faith and his family. ...


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Ted  Find all comments by Ted
....he said that THE "USE" MEANT TO TAKE THE "WINE", POUR IT ON YOUR HAND, AND THEN RUB IT ON TOP OF YOUR BELLY OR "STOMACH"

You are beyond unbelievable. Calvinism is truly a curse upon the willingly unrepentant heretical mind.

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News Item12/24/10 7:33 AM
JesusNeverDrankStrongDrinkEver  Find all comments by JesusNeverDrankStrongDrinkEver
Ted wrote:
"the son of man came eating and drinking [virgin-wine]"
I Have To Laugh My Head & Heart Out At You, "Ted" !

Do YOU Know How Stupid You "Sound" Misapplying & Misquoting HOLY WRIT ?

THE HISTORIC AUTHORIZED HOLY ENGLISH KING JAMES BIBLE SAYS:

"DRINK NO LONGER WATER, BUT USE A LITTLE WINE FOR THY STOMACH'S SAKE AND THINE OFTEN INFIRMITIES."--I TIMOTHY 5:23

NOTICE: IT DOESN'T SAY "But DRINK A Little (Or A LOT OF) [Virgin] Wine"--IT SAYS: "But USE A Little [Virgin] Wine" !

DRINKING OF (STRONG) WINE [OR ANY FORM OF "WINE" FOR THAT MATTER] ISN'T EVEN SPECIFICALLY ADVOCATED, ENCOURAGED, COMMANDED &-OR WRITTEN IN "I TIMOTHY 5:23": THE FAVORITE KING-JAMES-BIBLE VERSE OF AL CAPONE & THE ANTI-PROHIBITION FORCES OF HELL-FIRE & THE ETERNAL LAKE OF FIRE ! ! ! ! !

I PERSONALLY USED TO GET A "KICK" OUT OF HOW MY FORMER "PASTOR", DR. WAYNE VAN GELDEREN SR., ONCE EXPLAINED "1 TIMOTHY 5:23":

HE SAID THAT THE "USE" MEANT TO TAKE THE "WINE", POUR IT ON YOUR HAND, AND THEN RUB IT ON TOP OF YOUR BELLY OR "STOMACH"--AS THE WORD OF GOD NEVER SPECIFICALLY ENCOURAGES ANYONE, EVEN IN "1 TIMOGHY 5:23", TO EVER "DRINK", "GUZZLE" OR "BIB" THE "LITTLE WINE" FOR "YOUR STOMACH'S SAKE AND OFTEN INFIRMITIES" !

CAN YOU SEE HOW FOOLISH & STUPID YOU ARE TED ?

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News Item12/20/10 2:09 PM
jpw  Find all comments by jpw
OFF TOPIC Jim, is actually a lack of good salts, good fats, and fermented foods that lead to disease, Ferments do not always require a culture, although it is preferrable, vegetable ferments, if done right can be done with salt alone. Amazing God we serve, isn't it? "You are the salt of the earth"----then we end up with some kind of bleached, chemical salt and the guv says, "salt is bad for you." No.....their salt is bad for you. Like the famous "eggs give you cholesterol and kill you study." Ya, the guv studies the nutrition of egg powder, depleted of its natural food strength. The truth is their powdered eggs are bad for you. "Nourishing Traditions" is a great book if you are struggling with what the tv (FDA) has taught you. There are actual natural cures out there. (Shhh!) As if God intended to nourish his people. (Shhh!)

So, I think Elmer got what I was trying to say. Our diets do not honor God----we do not know how far we have slipped. Can anyone tell me, when they eat fast food, what percentage of that bite you take is just chemicals? The seeds of the earth are a gift from God. Add a little salt and a little culture, and finesse and viola, your stomach will love you.

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News Item12/19/10 6:55 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Ted wrote:
"Is the blood of the Lamb alcohol"?
IS THE BLOOD OF THE LAMB GRAPE JUICE?
IS THE BODY OF JESUS CHRIST GROUND AND BAKED WHEAT FLOUR?

You truly are an idiot Lurker.

Ted wrote:
Your pathetic reverse psycology attempts keep further exposing your willingly simple mind Lurker.
Pro 18:7 A fool's mouth is his destruction, and his lips are the snare of his soul.
Your need to descend to personal insult against a brother in Christ does makes evident a couple of things:

1) Your argument, if you have one, is empty of substance.

2) Proverbs 18:7 more properly applies to yourself. As does Proverbs 10:18.

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News Item12/19/10 2:14 PM
Lurker  Protected NameFind all comments by Lurker
Ted wrote:
Your pathetic reverse psycology attempts keep further exposing your willingly simple mind Lurker.
Pro 18:7 A fool's mouth is his destruction, and his lips are the snare of his soul.
Isn't it when perfectly good insults go to waste?

Hey, you have a great day, Ted.

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News Item12/19/10 2:02 PM
Ted  Find all comments by Ted
Your pathetic reverse psycology attempts keep further exposing your willingly simple mind Lurker.

Pro 18:7 A fool's mouth is his destruction, and his lips are the snare of his soul.

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News Item12/19/10 12:57 PM
Lurker  Protected NameFind all comments by Lurker
Ted wrote:
"Is the blood of the Lamb alcohol"?
IS THE BLOOD OF THE LAMB GRAPE JUICE?
IS THE BODY OF JESUS CHRIST GROUND AND BAKED WHEAT FLOUR?
You truly are an idiot Lurker.
It's always interesting to see how people repond to a question which they can't answer without shooting themselves in the foot.

Do you know what the term metaphor means, Ted?

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News Item12/19/10 12:13 PM
Ted  Find all comments by Ted
"Is the blood of the Lamb alcohol"?

IS THE BLOOD OF THE LAMB GRAPE JUICE?
IS THE BODY OF JESUS CHRIST GROUND AND BAKED WHEAT FLOUR?

You truly are an idiot Lurker.

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News Item12/18/10 8:45 PM
Elmer Schwartz | Berlin, Ohio  Find all comments by Elmer Schwartz
What kind of salt? The perverted table salt - sure. Straight up sea salt - now that's some good, healthy stuff.

Good point by jpw, you alls should take heed.

Yeah, folks may not drink and condemn those who do, but not only will they eat poison because the "governing authorities" say it's ok, but they even go as far as injecting poison and disease into their bodies!

Strange people.

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News Item12/18/10 5:04 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
JPW, too much salt leads to high blood pressure and kidney stones, The backteria that makes yogurt is of a particular kind, it isn't the same that sours milk. Modernists, realize that ignorance kills.

Ted, who knows what Tony's theology is? Please don't blame Calvinists for his ramblings.

Christ may very well have led a Nazarite life-style, and so didn't drink, but, no, moderate drinking isn't condemned in the Bible. I also abstain, by the way.

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News Item12/18/10 2:46 PM
jpw  Find all comments by jpw
OFF TOPIC!! ketchup used to be fermented. All pickled foods, sauerkrauts, kimchis, fish sauce, vinegars, ginger-ales, etc.

Modernists have forgotten the foods that fed their ancestors.

For the above, salt is used. The salt protects against dangerous germs while promoting the growth of healthy germs, that live in your gut and are essential for digesting food, which is what happens when milk is fermented into yogurt or kefir.

This is off topic, I know, but I keep hearing this discussion on fermenting as if fermenting is just about getting drunk, when the actual legitimate process preserved human health for millenium.

Dead, chemicalized food is no great testament to God, eating aspartame, which is literally a deadly poison, while judging those who ruin their lives on drink. I see the prior more often these days, people gorging on sugar that literally ferments into alcohol in the gut, getting drunk on their foods, while never touching wine!

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News Item12/18/10 12:12 AM
Lurker  Protected NameFind all comments by Lurker
Ted wrote:
And no that does not mean drinking until drunk, but it does means drinking alcholol.
Is the blood of the Lamb alcohol; viz the Lord's table? Or is intoxicating wine part and parcel of the devil's table...

1Cr 10:21 Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table of devils.

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News Item12/17/10 10:56 PM
Ted  Find all comments by Ted
"the son of man came eating and drinking grapejuice"

Do you know how stupid and unbiblical a statement that is? You may not drink alcholol as I don't either, but creating lies to create false doctrines is a heresy (though that is I suppose normal on this Calvinist heresy site I guess).

Jesus made aged wine (aka "the good stuff"), not grape juice.

Jhn 2:10 And saith unto him, Every man at the beginning doth set forth good wine; and when men have well drunk, then that which is worse: [but] thou hast kept the good wine until now.

Drinking wine (no, not only grape juice) is also supported elsewhere.

1 Tim 5:23 Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and thine often infirmities.

And no that does not mean drinking until drunk, but it does means drinking alcholol.

So even if you don't drink it, don't deny it, or you will be found out to be a liar every time.

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News Item12/17/10 9:25 PM
The Fat guy  Find all comments by The Fat guy
Hi Mike,

I know what you mean.........I'm the Fat Guy

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News Item12/17/10 5:06 PM
JesusNeverDrankStrongDrinkEver  Find all comments by JesusNeverDrankStrongDrinkEver
They Also Have STRONG-DRINK, STRONG-WINE & DRUNKEN BOOZE SEX ORGIES ["The most faggy g--d----- thing"--RICHARD NIXON] At THE BOHEMIAN GROVE--Like ALEX JONES Exposed Long Ago.

ALEX However FAILED To Report On THE ROMAN-"CATHOLIC" CULTIC "MASS"-MESS That Was Being Performed RIGHT NEXT To THE "HUMAN-SACRIFICE" DONE Before MOLOCH The "OWL"-god Of THE BOHEMIAN-GROVERS !

I Have To Laugh At How The BILLY-GRAHAMITE HYPOCRITES Will Accuse Others Of BILLY-GRAHAMITE HYPOCRISY; For Ever Even THINKING, Let Alone PUBLICLY & ACTUALLY, AUTHORIZED-BIBLICALLY REBUKING THE FALSE-PROPHET & "PROTESTANT-POPE": BILLY GRAHAM !

As Old "BILLY-GOAT" GRAHAM--LIKE THE ROMAN "CATHOLIC"
ANTI-CHRIST POPE BENEDICT (RATZINER) & APOSTATE-PROTESTANTISM--STILL USE THE STRONG-WINE OF THEIR SPIRITUAL FORNICATION IN THEIR BOOZED-UP, UN-HOLY "COMMUNION", "EUCHARIST" & "LITERAL-BODY & BLOOD OF GOD" BLASPHEMY !

FOR ALL THEIR "VIRGIN" 'MARY'-WORSHIPPING; THE EVIL VATICAN & THEIR COVERT-OVERT GOONS POSTING ON SERMONAUDIO; WILL NEVER MENTION, OR EVER STATE THE HISTORIC FACT OF JESUS CHRIST'S KOSHER VIRGIN-WINE DRINKING AT HIS
KOSER-PASSOVER & KOSHER-"LAST SUPPER" !

"THE SON OF MAN CAME EATING AND DRINKING (KOSHER-WINE OR GRAPEJUICE), AND THEY SAY, BEHOLD...A[N UNKOSHER-STRONG] WINEBIBBER..." Mat.11:19a !

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News Item12/17/10 2:21 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Matthew 7
3 "And why do you look at the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye?---NASB

Bumbling Bush, could well be right that was one the best verses in the Bible for a politician to know. I thought this was a recent meeting with Graham. Considering all the bad decisions that Bush during his administration, I thought he was still drinking like a fish. In any event I hope that no more members of the oil industry get elected to the Presidency.

Psalms 141
3 Set a guard, O LORD, over my mouth; Keep watch over the door of my lips.
4 Do not incline my heart to any evil thing, To practice deeds of wickedness With men who do iniquity; And do not let me eat of their delicacies.---NASB

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News Item12/17/10 12:08 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
The Fat Guy wrote:
Sorry Bush, but you don't try Christianity. It is not a temporary thing! It is a eternal life changing event infused by the Life Giver. You try chocolate, you try M&Ms, you try chicken soup.
Be careful of trying too much of that chocolate, M&Ms and chicken soup. It'll make you fat.
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News Item12/16/10 11:14 PM
The Fat Guy  Find all comments by The Fat Guy
Sorry Bush, but you don't try Christianity. It is not a temporary thing! It is a eternal life changing event infused by the Life Giver. You try chocolate, you try M&Ms, you try chicken soup.
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News Item12/16/10 10:28 PM
Frank | Clearwater, FL  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
jpw wrote:
Bohemian Grove.
Either the site blocked my other post concerning this or I messed it up? Anyway, that is good comspiracy stuff. Thanks And, no this is not from the large all-knowing owl. :-)
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News Item12/16/10 7:08 PM
jpw  Find all comments by jpw
Bohemian Grove.
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