Joint plans to mark the 450th anniversary of the Reformation were unveiled by the Church of Scotland and Scottish Government today.
The main national focus will be on Wednesday November 3, beginning with a conference, organised by the Joint Commission on Doctrine, followed by an ecumenical service at St Giles’ Cathedral and then an evening reception hosted by First Minister Alex Salmond in the Great Hall of Edinburgh Castle.
The day-long conference, ‘The Scottish Reformation 1560: Marking the Legacy, Imagining the Future’, opened by the First Minister and addressed by Professor Tom Devine, Rev Dr Alan Falconer, Rev Dr Alison Peden, Professor Paul Murray and the Very Rev Dr Sheilagh Kesting.
The Kirk is also planning a touring exhibition, alongside the release of hundreds of years of Kirk Session minutes which will provide a valuable insight into the Church’s development and a mine of...
Jim Lincoln wrote: Easliy, the church would have been built better and faster, if a better Bible was in use!
Jim Lincoln. More blasphemy eh Jim??? Christians believe that God builds His Church and none shall be lost.
You appear to be favouring the papist salvation by human effort. Indeed by education of sinner? That discounts the work of the Holy Spirit.
Jim. Here is the good news from the Word of God KING JAMES VERSION.
John 6:37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out. 38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. 39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
John 18:9 That the saying might be fulfilled, which he spake, Of them which thou gavest me have I lost none.
Lim Jincoln wrote: Thank you Jim for saving us from the KJV. I think of all those poor people who went to Hell because they got saved by reading or hearing the KJV. But they really didn't get saved, because the only way to get saved is through the NASB. Jim is out true savior, and the NASB is his prophet.
Praise Jim, Praise Jim, tell of NASB greatness....
Mike wrote: The strawman cometh often from both sides, John, and one side isn't any prettier than the other.
Well let me put the question to you, Mike: Is there a Ruckmanite about? Or is it a figment of Jim's parrot-like imagination? Or is it deliberate, to cause us to forget the important and totally rational questions?
p.s. The answer is the third option, as you well know, bro.
John UK wrote: Did I miss something? Have you found a KJV-Onlyist cultist on the thread Jim? --- Howbeit if this is just another strawman to make your argument taste just a little better, be it known unto you that such distractions are of no consequence, indeed, they make you appear to be just like a parrot, a deceiver, and an antichrist. Stick to THE TRUTH, and let us have some decent Christian debate, ... ---
The strawman cometh often from both sides, John, and one side isn't any prettier than the other.
Easliy, the church would have been built better and faster, if a better Bible was in use!. I seem to have pointed out that the Protestant Reformers did just fine using the Catholic Vulgate, in starting the Reformation, that Bible certainly isn't perfect, Why not use the an updated version of the Wycliffe Bible, it's based on one 1,000 years old! Just because a barely adequate version of the Bible was used and got some results, why not use a better version now? Why I Do Not Think the King James Bible Is the Best Translation Available Today
John, UK, I'm not parroting, but what if I were? the same good answers take care of the same bad old questions!
'Do not give them a loaf of bread, covered with an inedible, impenetrable crust, fossilized by three and a half centuries.
One thing of note, even though The [A]nglican [V]ersion a syncretic Bible put forth by a sycretic church founded by a serial wife murderer!
Jim Lincoln. We still await your explanation as to why God, Christ and the Holy Spirit used such an incompetent and bungling book to build and teach His Church?
Have you advised the Lord to change every church into a NASBy church? Clearly He is in great need of your expertise because of His failures.
PS. Jim you don't think all this criticism of yours is amounting to so much blasphemy do you?
One thing to note is that Mr Lincoln works just a politician: If they can't answer the question, or if answering the question is detrimental to their position, they avoid it completely and woffle on about something else, just like a mindless parrot.
Well Mr Lincoln's arguments don't hold any water, they are clouds without rain, hot air that disappears upwards and is never seen again, escaping steam that is soon dissipated.
Mr Lincoln is also an unbeliever, because he does not believe even the basics of the five solas. He should listen to Mr Yurich and receive Christ as his personal Saviour, and thus gain entrance into heaven when he expires and passes away, because only one thing is needful to enter heaven when one dies, and that is that "Ye must be born again".
'Do not give them a loaf of bread, covered with an inedible, impenetrable crust, fossilized by three and a half centuries. Give them the Word of God as fresh and warm and clear as the Holy Spirit gave it to the authors of the Bible. . . . For any preacher or theologian who loves God's Word to allow that Word to go on being misunderstood because of the veneration of an archaic, not-understood version of four centuries ago is inexcusable, and almost unconscionable'---Edward H. Palmer
One thing of note, even though The [A]nglican [V]ersion a syncretic Bible put forth by a sycretic church founded by a serial wife murderer! is a really bad Bible -- though great literature. I don't make any fuss when people use it, but when I use a much superior Bible, again see, Comparing Bible Translations--Conclusions, I'm attacked like I was at a JW convention for criticizing the NWT? Oh, I know why, I answered my own question! But hey! anything I can do to help!
Jim Lincoln wrote: Sometimes this KJ Only attitude ......
Did I miss something? Have you found a KJV-Onlyist cultist on the thread Jim? If so, let me know who he is and I will recommend him to go find the TBS articles and get a better position.
Howbeit if this is just another strawman to make your argument taste just a little better, be it known unto you that such distractions are of no consequence, indeed, they make you appear to be just like a parrot, a deceiver, and an antichrist.
Stick to THE TRUTH, and let us have some decent Christian debate, instead of this liberalising, unbelieving, doubt-producing and despair-forming woffle from your beak.
It is said that some UK zoos are looking for some big-beaked parrots to enhance their animal kingdom, so I should go easy on the parrot impersonations if I were you.
Jim Lincoln wrote: Sometimes this KJ Only attitude goes beyond all logic and dabbles in the realm of the absurd. In 1995 I was on the John Ankerberg show called, “What’s the Best Bible Translation?” There were three KJV advocates. Early on in the eight-part program (that was filmed all in one day) John Ankerberg asked them, “If a person in Russia becomes a Christian, are you saying that he would need to learn English in order to read the only true Holy Bible?” After a brief pause, the lead KJV advocate said, “Yes!” I wondered why I had been asked to be on the show after hearing that response…
Thank you Jim for saving us from the KJV. I think of all those poor people who went to Hell because they got saved by reading or hearing the KJV. But they really didn't get saved, because the only way to get saved is through the NASB. Jim is out true savior, and the NASB is his prophet.
Sometimes this KJ Only attitude goes beyond all logic and dabbles in the realm of the absurd. In 1995 I was on the John Ankerberg show called, “What’s the Best Bible Translation?” There were three KJV advocates. Early on in the eight-part program (that was filmed all in one day) John Ankerberg asked them, “If a person in Russia becomes a Christian, are you saying that he would need to learn English in order to read the only true Holy Bible?” After a brief pause, the lead KJV advocate said, “Yes!” I wondered why I had been asked to be on the show after hearing that response…
jkb, I said that John Knox would have endorsed and no doubt even used it over the [A]nglican [V]ersion, the Geneva Bible is a better Bible, but--
Christopher Pope wrote: Translations Not Recommended Advances in understanding the text of the New Testament, as well as changes in the English language, have made the Geneva Bible (GEN), King James Version (KJV), and Young's Literal Translation far obsolete. Their rating is lower for the fact that, while the most formally literal, none of them pay enough attention to the nuances of grammar and syntax. The KJV would have done better if it had kept to Tyndale's simple style instead of the elevated language that soon became outdated. The 21st Century King James Version (KJ21) might have outdone the NKJV if it had been more consistent in updating the KJV's archaisms and correcting more obvious errors such as Easter in Acts 12:4....
Jim Lincoln wrote: They should have also marked the 450 anniversary the first great Bible that John Knox would have endorsed, The Geneva Bible Of 1560. But, quite a few things Christian unfortunately have goon awry in Great Britain.
Yeah Jim. We know. Everything is about Bible traslations.
By the way. Since you are so Anti English, I take it you must be Native American. If your ancestors came from England then you must have trouble with yourself.
They should have also marked the 450 anniversary the first great Bible that John Knox would have endorsed, The Geneva Bible Of 1560. But, quite a few things Christian unfortunately have goon awry in Great Britain.
"“We have been working with the Kirk to ensure the 450th Anniversary is appropriately remembered. The Scottish Government fully appreciates the work of the Kirk across Scotland, and internationally, as well as all our varied faith communities for their roles in helping our nation to become One Scotland."
A Liberal church. A Liberal First Minister. Female preachers.
John Knox will be doing cartwheels in his grave!!
They've called it "Marking the Legacy, Imagining the future"
The lagacy is sadly marked by the evil sodomite Liberal heresy of the Kirk. They have a depraved sodomite preaching in an Aberdeen pulpit.
"Imagining the future" of this Liberal Kirk is to perceive Satan in charge, heresy in pulpit and fools in pews!
"Varied faith communities"??? The idolatrous view of the reprobates who know NOT the truth.
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