President Barack Obama, in a rare discussion about his religious beliefs, described himself on Tuesday as a "Christian by choice" who arrived at his faith in adulthood because "the precepts of Jesus Christ" helped him envision the kind of life he wanted to lead.
Obama talked about his beliefs when he was asked, "Why are you a Christian." The question was posed by a woman at a backyard conversation here, part of a series of meetings Obama is holding to talk informally with Americans.
byfaithalone wrote: Obama: 'I'm a Christian by choice' Bible: "I'm a Christian by faith" Romans 1:17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith. Romans 4:16 Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all,
And Killed 6 Million Jews To Prove It--Not To Mention 10 Million Gentiles !
HITLER Was NO MORE A CHRISTIAN Than Pro-Baby-Butchering & Pro-Sodomite&Gomorrahite "US President" OBAMA IS A CHRISTIAN.
A TRUE CHRISTIAN Does Not Endorse Or Approve Political & Religious Assassinations, Killings & Genocide.
HITLER & OBAMA Have BOTH Approved Of Political & Religious Assassinations, Killings & Genocide.
The Next Thing We'll Be Told Is That OBAMA Is A Biblical Literalist Protestant Christian Fundamentalist.
Which He ALREADY Alluded To Be In His Campaigning Days At That Black Apostolic Pentecostal Church In South-Chicago--Where He Gave, If I'm Not Mistaken, That Father's-Day Speech In The Summer Of 2008.
**According To JESSE JACKSON SR.'S Nephew, I Believe His Last Name Is "BEASLEY"--Or Some English-African-American Descended Slave-Name, OBAMA Attended That Black South-Chicago Pentecostal Church Just For "Appearances"; And To "Say" To The Whole World That He "Rejected" The Main-Line Black-Protestant (Trinity UCC) Church & Theology Of His Former Pastor "REV." WRIGHT: To Embrace A More "Evangelical" & "Conservative" Black-"Protestant"-Church Like 33rd-DEGREE-MASON JESSE JACKSON SR.'S & Fundamentalist Baptist Pastor JAMES MEEKS'S !
John, That is an interesting answer to my question AND thank you for admitting if one is a disciple, a follower of Jesus Christ there will be a difference in their life, when you have so often posted how in your opinion all a persona needed to do was say a sinners prayer and continue living however they felt like it, just so long as they had sincerely said that prayer.
Romans 1:17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
Romans 4:16 Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all,
Here is what pluralism really means. If someone says that faith in Christ is essential for their individual salvation but not necessarily for someone elseâ€™s then they have logically said it wasnâ€™t essential for them, but was simply a matter of personal choice. The world has told us to think this way in all spiritual matters. So it is not uncommon for someone to apply a moral standard to their own lives, but not to the lives of others. That is moral hypocrisy of the highest order and simply deludes the lost into reducing Godâ€™s moral standards and requirements to personal choices, and if a personal choice then they canâ€™t be binding on anyone. This personal choice fallacy is one of the characteristics that separate the true church of Christ from all others. Pluralism is simply spiritual polygamy. There are lots of worthy husbands and Christ just happens to be the one I chose. But, Iâ€™ll sleep with whomever I want!
"That this is a country that is still predominantly Christian, but we have Jews, Muslims, Hindus, atheists, agnostics, Buddhists, and that their own path to grace is one that we have to revere and respect AS MUCH AS OUR OWN."(emphasis mine).
From this I believe it's safe to say Obama is neither Muslim nor Christian, but believes in "everything"--everything that, at least according to HIM, is "good". (Proverbs 12:15)
Anyone who believes in everything actually believes in NOTHING. (G. K. Chesterson?)
A true Christian, Muslim, etc. believes in the exclusivity of his or her faith, which Obama clearly denies when he makes this statement.
Hey John Here is some of Pope Benedict XVI's theology... Can you spot the errors?
"The doctrine of the resurrection of the body. The continuity of Ratzingerâ€™s theological views from his apparently-radical past is seen in his best known, most systematic book, Introduction to Christianity. The book seeks to explain the Apostlesâ€™ Creed in the light of contemporary Roman Catholic dogma. When Ratzinger approaches the clause, 'I believe in the resurrection of the body', he recognises that this doctrine is a 'stumbling block to the modern mind' (p 232). His definition is both strange and ambiguous. 'Resurrection', he writes, 'expresses the idea that the immortality of man can exist and be thought of only in the fellowship of men' (p 172). The doctrine, he claims, creates a 'curious dilemma' (p 238) because modern liberal theologians no longer believe that body and soul can be identified as separate entities, something that Ratzinger dismisses, together with the immortality of the soul, as a Greek notion which has 'become obsolete' (p 241)." (M.Vogan)
Michael Hranek wrote: Hey, John, if a man is truly a disciple, a follower of Jesus Christ would he vote to elect politicians (democrats are famous for this) who force abortion and homosexuality on others?
CV wrote: When someone says that they are a Christian, you have to accept that at face value. Those who love and adore Obama are gleefully proclaiming this as if it is confession of a new found faith and love for Jesus that should now silence scrutiny. The problem is that Obama is saying that who he has been was an expression of his Christianity all along. "I think my public service is part of that effort to express my Christian faith."
If Obama were really a Christian then he would be against abortion, homosexual marriage and all other perversions.
When someone says that they are a Christian, you have to accept that at face value.
Those who love and adore Obama are gleefully proclaiming this as if it is confession of a new found faith and love for Jesus that should now silence scrutiny. The problem is that Obama is saying that who he has been was an expression of his Christianity all along.
"I think my public service is part of that effort to express my Christian faith."