God did not create the universe and the "Big Bang" was an inevitable consequence of the laws of physics, the eminent British theoretical physicist Stephen Hawking argues in a new book.
In "The Grand Design," co-authored with U.S. physicist Leonard Mlodinow, Hawking says a new series of theories made a creator of the universe redundant, according to the Times newspaper which published extracts on Thursday.
Well, he does not even know himself - I mean he does not know that deep in his being something is telling him about the very God of universe and he acknowledges that in saying, 'God...' But he contradicts that in saying, 'did not create...'
It would make him a good atheist if he did not mention God at all. I don't know what kind of god he is talking about. The God of the Bible does exist and is the Creator of the universe. Leave the fool who denies the Creator God.
Alas for Hawking and Mlodinow. Proud and foolish men raising their puny voice of opinion against the God of the universe in a display of the vanity and arrogance of "science falsely so called". Dear LORD, in wrath remember mercy.
Gentlemen, we seemed to have forgotten some verses, myself included,
1 Corithians 1 18 For the word of the cross is to those who are perishing foolishness, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. 19 For it is written, "I WILL DESTROY THE WISDOM OF THE WISE, AND THE CLEVERNESS OF THE CLEVER I WILL SET ASIDE." 20 Where is the wise man? Where is the scribe? Where is the debater of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? 21 For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not come to know God, God was well-pleased through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe. 22 For indeed Jews ask for signs, and Greeks search for wisdom; 23 but we preach Christ crucified, to Jews a stumbling block, and to Gentiles foolishness, 24 but to those who are the called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God.---NASB
Romans 1 18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, 19 because that which is known about God is evident within them; for God made it evident to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse. 21 For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God, or give thanks; but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened. 22 Professing to be wise, they became fools,---NASB
1 Timothy 6:20 (KJV) O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:
We have only explored 2% of our own oceans and these people believe they are intelligent.
Looking for "ETs" and worrying about black holes, the moon, and so on isn't helping us on Earth. We need cures for disease and many other things. Not space travel which is more than impossible with our limited knowledge.
Neil wrote: Tombayo: If am indeed to be described that way, it's no thanks to my formal education. Read books & essays. Many are now online, e.g. Science & Christianity
Tombayo: If I am indeed worth describing that way, it's no thanks to my formal education. Read books & essays. Many are now online, e.g. Science & Christianity
Neil wrote: Like the stereotypical Fundamentalist, Hawking must not read very broadly if the article represents him fairly. Ever since Hume, secular philosophers of science have struggled trying to escape the fallacy of inferring universal principles (laws) from particular observations (experiments). Yet it is still hard to get acolytes of vulgar scientism (and even Creationists!) to recognize that while "laws" of science may make life easier, that does not make them true.
You Sir are too educated for me! I don't understand a word you write. Where can I get educated like you please?
I had a discussion with a friend just today, and we talked about this "smart" man and we couldn't keep from laughing over his foolishness. I said something that I feel might let others who read these posts who claim that God either doesn't exist or He used evolution to create the cosmos: Why do you fight against that which you believe doesn't exist? I don't believe in leprechauns, unicorns or UFOs. Do I spend my life, time and money proving their non existence? How does one prove something doesn't exist especially if that thing (or in this case Person) is invisible? If you don't believe in God, then leave it at that. Stop fighting against that which you don't believe in...or could it be, that something down deep keeps telling you that He does exist?
Psalm 33:6 By the word of the LORD were the heavens made; and all the host of them by the breath of his mouth.
Gen 1:3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light
Lam 3:37 Who is he that saith, and it cometh to pass, when the Lord commandeth it not? 38 Out of the mouth of the most High proceedeth not evil and good?
Psalm 147:15 He sendeth forth his commandment upon earth: his word runneth very swiftly. 16 He giveth snow like wool: he scattereth the hoarfrost like ashes. 17 He casteth forth his ice like morsels: who can stand before his cold? 18 He sendeth out his word, and melteth them: he causeth his wind to blow, and the waters flow.
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
Eph 3:9 And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:
Hebrews 1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds
An interesting article in the Jerusalem Post, about this book, Hawking: God was not needed to create the universe. Twenty percent of Jewish physicists do believe in God, which I would suppose is a high percentage of people, less than what believers would like to see, but perhaps better than is to be expected. from the article,
Jerusalem Post wrote: Hebrew University physics Prof. Jacob Bekenstein, a religious Jew and leading theoretical physicist born in Mexico City, who studied black hole thermodynamics at the same time that Hawking did and whose work reportedly influenced the British scientist, told The Jerusalem Post on Thursday that Hawking’s new statements “are a bit simplified. We learn things about the universe from watching and conducting experiments, but we are limited and can err about physical laws. He has reached a grandiose conclusion that even many non-believer scientists would agree is too much.â€
Hebrews 11:3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
No Faith - No understanding, truth or knowledge.
The poor old reprobates are in for a shock on judgment day.
But of course the real culprit in this crime is the Liberal churches which preach and teach JUNK!!
Isn't it interesting that the Pope, the Archbishop of Canterbury and Hawking will all end up in the same hellish eternity, - I wonder what they will say to each other? Something to the effect of =
Like the stereotypical Fundamentalist, Hawking must not read very broadly if the article represents him fairly. Ever since Hume, secular philosophers of science have struggled trying to escape the fallacy of inferring universal principles (laws) from particular observations (experiments).
Yet it is still hard to get acolytes of vulgar scientism (and even Creationists!) to recognize that while "laws" of science may make life easier, that does not make them true.
Many things could be said about this, such as the fact that the book-and even an excerpt-has not been published. Also, Hawking may be an expert physicist, but that does not qualify him as a philosopher. Being an expert in one field does not automatically make someone an expert in another field.
The biggest challenge to this book would be along the lines of what scientific experiments have been done to prove something can be created from nothing. Where is the repeatable, testable scientific evidence for this? How did something spontaneously create itself from nothing? Even the language is nonsense, which is what I mean by Hawking not being a philosopher.
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