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Jessica wrote: "I just want God to keep me from temptation and to bind to (the?) powers of darkness from hardening my weary heart."
"Now unto HIM who is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of HIS glory with exceeding joy.
To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and for ever, Amen." (Jude 24-25)
******* Jessica wrote: "Help me Jesus lest I perish! Yes, may God have mercy upon me for sometimes my faith seems so small!" ******* Jessica, I have been taught of God that it is at those very times, when my faith seems so small, to pray in the spirit: "Lord I believe; help thou mine unbelief." (Mark 9:24b)
I would offer as well this word in season, by way of encouragement, from the lips of our Lord Jesus Christ, in His High Priestly prayer recorded in the 17th chapter of the Gospel of John:
". . . Holy Father keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be as one, as we are.
While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled." (John 17:11b-12)
Lurker wrote: 24 hours and all I've heard is the sound of crickets from the Campingites. I guess the answer is; they have no answers. You won't get an answer either, John, but you already knew that.
Well Lurker, I guess we can live in hope that the silence indicates that our questions are being investigated thoroughly, and that there may yet be some good fruit coming from them. One of the worst things about being a cult member is that many of the texts they come out with are applicable, not to those they preach to, but to themselves.
And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. 2 Thessalonians 2:10-12 KJV
Even in the current Day of Grace, there are warnings against rebellion, when men harden their own hearts and stubbornly follow a false prophet. It makes me wonder whether on May 23rd 2011 God will permit repentance unto life to those whose lives currently exhibit such haughtiness.
Westminster Confession ch 13 4. God did, from all eternity, decree to justify all the elect; and Christ did, in the fulness of TIME, die for their sins, and rise again for their justification: nevertheless they are not justified, until the Holy Spirit doth in due time actually apply Christ unto them.
Anti-matter wrote: I am including a list for to to ponder then after you have reflected on your statement concerning that "CHRIST" was limited in what he could do in his humanity. my question remains just how can you make that statement? Miracles Recorded...
I realise this is very difficult for you to understand but here again is what Christ Jesus (Son of God) stated....
Mk 13:32 But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, NEITHER THE SON, but the Father." # Note the "TWO" points HE makes #1. The Son does NOT know. #2. God the Father does know.
Now as to Jesus human attributes, a better question for you to deal with considering your focus on His divine power is ..... How did Jesus grow from infancy to adulthood. OR How did Jesus die on the cross.
Christ is fully divine and fully man.
Why does He not know the date of the end? He has PERFECT respect for His Father, God, who has chosen to retain this information for Himself alone.
Note how Jesus give *ALL* the glory to His Father. - *ALL* - John 14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I SPEAK NOT OF MYSELF: but the Father that dwelleth in me, HE DOETH THE WORKS.
Whoso keepeth the commandment shall feel no evil thing: and a wise man's heart discerneth both time and judgment. Ecclesiastes 8:5 KJV
as a proof text for Yankee Camping's extreme wisdom in discerning the time of the Lord's return.....
please note that if he is UNABLE to discern the TIME of God's JUDGMENT on SIN (which judgment occurred in AD33, vey clearly) then there is no way that I shall have any respect for his "wisdom" concerning the second advent. So....
If you want me to listen to any of your arguments, you will have to answer my query concerning 1 Cor 15:3-6 before we go any further.
Have you asked him yet? Or are you not able to contact your own pastor? Surely not?
Kant Can't wrote: Well this article proves why the judge put a ban on homosesuxuals from Bulgarian monastaries getting drunk at a Clinton wedding, which legalized gambling. After all, when the Darwinian church started doing body scans they had to expell the student who lost the 8 billion dollars. How else could the Arizona Governor get the robber to accept the new health care system that would cause them to think that a post on the Return of Christ should be changed into a debate about when Christ made the atonement. Oh Please, Oh Please let us stay off topic and don't close our thread.
Your'e problem is that if you had more of an Existential Imagination you would have less Pragmatic views of Epistimological Dualism. We must always stay off topic
anti- matter wrote: Lurker Just to make it "VERY " clear as to who said what...
I was aware that Simon first asked the questions which I answered and Substance quoted him and finally you quoted Substance. But since you are a Campingite as well as Simon, why not answer my question? Or is it that your clan has all the questions but no answers?
Here is Simon's questions again:
"the question is
is Jesus Christ GOD ? has he always been GOD ?then how can you say HE does not know ?"
And my answer:
The verses (Matt 24:36, Mark 13:32) don't mention "God", which can refer to any person of the trinity, but speaks specifically of the first person of the trinity as the only One who knows. What part of "but my Father only" or "neither the Son, but the Father" don't you understand?
Mark 6:5, 6 Now He could do no mighty work there, except that He laid His hands on a few sick people and healed them. And He marveled because of their unbelief. Then He went about the villages in a circuit, teaching.
The Messiah seemed to be limited on earth by the unbelief of human beings.
Mark 9:23 Jesus said to him, ‚ÄúIf you can believe, all things are possible to him who believes.‚ÄĚ
Unbelief limited Jesus Our Lord on earth, in working in the lives of persons with hardened hearts and the same is still true today.
James 1:5-8 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him. But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed. For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord. A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.
Believing in The Lord Jesus Christ, is the ingredient for God's possibilities in our lives.
If a man or woman has questions about The Scriptures and Jesus' return, they should ask of God for wisdom: Believing utterly that God will reveal Himself through the Scripture to them and He will.
*"BUT I WOULD NOT HAVE YOU TO BE IGNORANT, BRETHREN, CONCERNING THEM WHICH ARE ASLEEP, THAT YE SORROW NOT, EVEN AS OTHERS WHICH HAVE NO HOPE.
FOR IF WE BELIEVE THAT JESUS DIED AND ROSE AGAIN, EVEN SO THEM ALSO WHICH SLEEP IN JESUS WILL GOD BRING WITH HIM.
FOR THIS WE SAY UNTO YOU BY THE WORD OF THE LORD, THAT WE WHICH ARE ALIVE AND REMAIN UNTO THE COMING OF THE LORD, SHALL NOT PREVENT THEM WHICH ARE ASLEEP;
FOR THE LORD HIMSELF SHALL DESCEND FROM HEAVEN WITH A SHOUT, WITH THE VOICE OF THE ARCHANGEL AND WITH THE TRUMP OF GOD: AND THE DEAD IN CHRIST SHALL RISE FIRST;
THEN WE WHICH ARE ALIVE AND REMAIN SHALL BE CAUGHT UP TOGETHER WITH THEM IN THE CLOUDS, TO MEET THE LORD IN THE AIR; AND SO SHALL WE EVER BE WITH THE LORD.
WHEREFORE, COMFORT ONE ANOTHER WITH THESE WORDS." 1 THESSALONIANS 4:13-18 !
*"For All The Saints And Elect Of GOD Are Gathered, Prior To The Tribulation That Is To Come, And Are Taken To The LORD; Lest They See The Confusion That Is To Overwhelm The World, Because Of Our Sins."--Ephrem 2;9, Aprox. 370 AD (From "The Last Times, The Antichrist, And The End Of The World") !
*"BEHOLD, I SHEW YOU A MYSTERY, WE SHALL NOT ALL SLEEP, BUT WE SALL ALL BE CHANGED,
IN A MOMENT, IN THE TWINKLING OF AN EYE, AT THE LAST TRUMPET..." 1 CORINTHIANS 15:51-52 !
Now Substance ,I am including a list for to to ponder then after you have reflected on your statement concerning that "CHRIST" was limited in what he could do in his humanity. my question remains just how can you make that statement?
Miracles Recorded in the Gospels
76. Cure of two blind men (Matt 9:27-31) 77. Piece of money in the fish's mouth (Matt 17:24-27) 78. The deaf and dumb man (Mark 7:31-37) 79. The blind man of Bethsaida (Mark 8:22-26) 80. Jesus passes unseen through the crowd (Luke 4:28-30) 81. The miraculous draught of fishes (Luke 5:4-11) 82. The raising of the widow's son at Nain (Luke 7:11-18) 83. The woman with the spirit of infirmity (Luke 13:11-17) 84. The man with the dropsy (Luke 14:1-6) 85. The ten lepers (Luke 17:11-19) 86. The healing of Malchus (Luke 22:50-51) 87. Water made wine (John 2:1-11) 88. Cure of nobleman's son, Capernaum (John 4:46-54) 89. Impotent man at Bethsaida cured (John 5:1-9) 90. Man born blind cured (John 9:1-7) 91. Lazarus raised from the dead (John 11:38-44) 92. Draught of fishes (John 21:1-14) 93. Syrophoenician woman's daughter cured (Matt 15:28; Mark 7:24) 94. Four thousand fed (Matt 15:32; Mark 8:1) 95. Fig tree blasted (Matt 21:18; Mark 11:12) way to many to post
Well this article proves why the judge put a ban on homosesuxuals from Bulgarian monastaries getting drunk at a Clinton wedding, which legalized gambling. After all, when the Darwinian church started doing body scans they had to expell the student who lost the 8 billion dollars. How else could the Arizona Governor get the robber to accept the new health care system that would cause them to think that a post on the Return of Christ should be changed into a debate about when Christ made the atonement. Oh Please, Oh Please let us stay off topic and don't close our thread.
"But I Would Not Have You To Be Ignorant, Brethren, Concerning Them Which Are Asleep, That Ye Sorrow Not, Even As Others Which Have No Hope.
For If We Believe That Jesus Died And Rose Again, Even So Them Also Which Sleep In Jesus Will GOD Bring With Him.
For This We Say Unto You By The Word Of The LORD, That We Which Are Alive And Remain Unto The Coming Of The LORD, Shall Not Prevent Them Which Are Asleep;
For The LORD Himself Shall Descend From Heaven With A Shout, With The Voice Of The Archangel And With The Trump(et) Of GOD: And The Dead In Christ Shall Rise First;
Then We Which Are Alive And Remain Shall Be Caught Up Together With Them In The Clouds, To Meet The LORD In The Air; And So Shall We Ever Be With The LORD.
Wherefore, Comfort One Another With These Words." 1 Thess. 4:13-18 !
"FOR ALL THE SAINTS AND ELECT OF GOD ARE GATHERED, PRIOR TO THE TRIBULATION THAT IS TO COME, AND ARE TAKEN TO THE LORD; LEST THEY SEE THE CONFUSION THAT IS TO COME UPON THE WORLD, BECAUSE OF OUR SINS."--ST. EPHREM 2;9, Written Aprox. 370 AD (From "The Last Times, The Antichrist, And The End Of The World") !
"Behold, I Shew You A Mystery, We Shall Not All Sleep, But We Shall All Be Changed,
In A Moment, In The Twinkling Of An Evey, At The Last Trumpet:" 1 Cor. 15:51-52c !
Well it seems as though Substance is of no substance ,then John UK seems to be pouting and promises not to answer any further question"s and finally Lurker better known as Lurch to his friends I hear is busy trying to figure out who said what to who . Now that being the case and that being said I would strongly suggest that in the future that no one would call anyone any names that's # 1 then all parties refrain from the sarcastic remarks that are frequently made that's # 2 and finally as Jessica and a few other ladies often say "JUST BE CIVIL"in your comments.State your belief as clearly as you can and leave it at that ! and that's # 3.In the scheme of things not so hard to do,correct? We will be able to tell rather quickly if all or any will subscribe to this idea.To put it in another way when you come in to the town hall for the meeting Please Hang your gun belt on the rack in the hall and spit your tobacco in the spittoon the LADIES will love you for it.....!
Just As Historic Judaism Has Its Various "Schools" &-Or 'Sects' Of "Theology" & 'Biblical Interpretation'--So Historic Judeo-Christianity Has Its/Their Various "Schools" &-Or 'Sects' Of "Theology" & 'Biblical' Interpretation !
I Am Amazed That There Are STILL Some IGNORANT So-Called " 'Bible' Students " Who Do NOT Believe That MAN Is A Tri-Partite (Tri-Unity Or "Triad"); Composed Of Three (3) Separate & Yet Distinct Parts: #1.A SPIRIT, #2.A SOUL & #3.A BODY; As Is CLEARLY Taught In THE HISTORIC AUTHORIZED HOLY JUDEO-CHRISTIAN BIBLE-SCRIPTURES:
"And The Very GOD Of Peace Sanctify You Wholly, And I Pray GOD Your Whole SPIRIT And SOUL And BODY Be Preserved Blameless Unto The Coming Of Our Lord Jesus Christ;" 1 Thessalonians 5:23
"And The Lord GOD Formed Man Of The Dust Of The GROUND (BODY), And BREATHED Into His NOSTRILS The BREATH Of LIFE (SPIRIT); And Man Became A Living SOUL." Genesis 2:7
"For The Word Of GOD Is Quick, And Powerful, And Sharper Than Any Two-Edged Sword, Piercing Even To The Dividing Asunder Of SOUL And SPIRIT, And Of The JOINTS And MARROW (BODY): And Is A Discerner Of The Thoughts And Intents Of The Heart." Hebrews 4:12
**THOSE WHO BELIEVE MAN IS ONLY COMPOSED OF A BODY & A SOUL ARE IN A DECEPTIVE SATANIC-VATICAN LIE & A DIABOLICAL "JESUIT" ERROR !
Just to make it "VERY " clear as to who said what ,here is the entire post from Substance note who said what:
Substance Find all comments by Substance
News Item: Bus benches claim to reveal return of Christ 110 comments
Simon wrote: the question is is Jesus Christ GOD ? has he always been GOD ?then how can you say HE does not know ? ............................................................................. Then Substance wrote the rest...... 36"But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone. 37 For the coming of the Son of Man will be just like the days of Noah."
"Jesus was both God and man. He had two natures. He was divine and human at the same time. This teaching is known as the hypostatic union; that is, the coming-together of two natures in one person. In Heb. 2:9 that Jesus was ". . . made for a little while lower than the angels . . ." Also in Phil. 2:5-8, it says that Jesus "emptied Himself, taking the form of a bond-servant, and being made in the likeness of men . . ." Col. 2:9 says, "For in Him all the Jesus was both God and man at the same time...... As a man, Jesus cooperated with the limitations of being a man.