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SUNDAY, JUL 25, 2010  |  24 comments
Thousands of Christian Zionists Gather to Support Israel
More than 4,000 Christian Zionists gathered in Washington, D.C., this week to send a pro-Israel message to members of Congress.

The fifth annual Christians United for Israel Washington Summit brought together everyday Christians, politicians, Orthodox Jews, and evangelical leaders on July 20-22 to show solidarity with Israel and to lobby federal lawmakers on behalf of the Jewish state.

At the “Night to Honor Israel Banquet” on Wednesday night, speakers raised concern about the cool relationship between the Obama administration and Israel. CUFI founder John Hagee, a controversial pastor known for his staunch Zionist view and end time prophecies, called on the crowd to stand by Israel’s side and fight against her enemies. ...


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News Item7/28/10 2:57 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Nice comment! Jessie.....

Gil Rugh said or, wrote:
God's promise to Abraham is commonly known as the Abrahamic Covenant. This lateral, unconditional promise God made to Abraham included three provisions: innumerable descendants; a specific land area; and a blessing that would extend the provision of salvation to Gentiles as well.

Having received this promise from God, Abraham believed what God said. This was not a blind faith, but faith that totally believed God would do what He said He would because of who He is. By this faith of Abraham in this promise of God, he was declared righteous by God.

There was no condition concerning the promise that necessitated him keeping the Law for its fulfillment. When works are added to faith, grace is nullified. Neither does later revelation nullify earlier revelation, but rather serves to clarify and elaborate on details. Such is the case in the discussion of believing Gentiles being spiritual descendants of Abraham.

from, Abraham's Faith in the Promise of God
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News Item7/28/10 2:10 PM
jessiestretchyface  Find all comments by jessiestretchyface
Tony Lopez-Cisneros wrote:
Posted His STUPID Comment...
Tony

It just stretches the elastic of credibilty

An example

that any who has a veritable treasure chest of conspiracy works, UFO Books, JV and Alien transcripts, and Jack Chick Alberto Comics...that he would have ...yes would even possess some work of saintly George Whitefield on the same shelf

I only asked as I have a book of his sermons and a couple of biographies, so interested in you turning over a new leaf in your excellent Whitefield reading material.

Some might counsel you to burn those Alberto Comic Books...

Hovering in the air?

Like this?

See point 12 above.

Alberto: "Alberto……the man who witnessed a fellow priest sliced into pieces by demons while Catholics hovered in the air"

Hoovering would sound more credible?

stretching credibilty like my nose

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News Item7/27/10 2:52 PM
jpw  Find all comments by jpw
Cezar---perhaps we can clarify these thoughts and agree that it was never the act of slaying an animal that saved a man? It was never by works. Never. Do you believe that Moses was saved by faith or by works? Abraham? Was it not Moses's generation that did not have faith to take the land even though they sacrificed animals? Was not Joshua faithful?

These are just some thoughts I have.
Hebrews 11---they looked foward to a better country. It was faith in the coming Messiah. It has always been Christ.

No, we no longer sacrifice animals because the Lamb of God has come, that is true, but God's work by faith is a thread through history.

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News Item7/27/10 2:35 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
CV, thanks for the kind words, but of course it's the IHCC Pastoral Staff, such as Gil who of course did the work. You and others might also find the series by Don Goertzen, Geo-History of the Middle East Series, quite interesting.

Ah, I see many of you need to listen to Gil's short sermon on Dispensations, to see that you are carrying Catholic baggage around. What is Replacement Theology? and Preterism! I Can't Believe It!.

Anyway, give Gil's sermon on Dispensations it is short, so you'll get your errors straightened up quickly!

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News Item7/27/10 1:38 PM
Cezar | Midwest  Find all comments by Cezar
Big Daddy wrote:
Dispensationalism is a cult. Flat out.
You must be remembering something else.
There are different dispensations.

Dispensations: God's Framework

If there weren't we would still be sacrificing animals to God.

Jim Lincoln wrote:
Rethink that Cezar,
NASB
You rethink it and the NASB.
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News Item7/27/10 1:14 PM
DavidD1960 | Louisiana  Find all comments by DavidD1960
all this Zionist movement amounts to is Darbyism run amok.
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News Item7/27/10 5:07 AM
CV | Australia  Find all comments by CV
Jim Lincoln wrote:
Oh, Oh, Christian Zionists: The Real Terrorists and How the Anglo-Protestant had built the Jewish State Does God Have a Future for Israel?: A Study of Romans 11
Thank you Jim for that link to an excellent article by pastor Gil Rugh

God Bless

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News Item7/26/10 9:55 PM
Big Daddy  Find all comments by Big Daddy
For he is not a (real Jew) who is only one outwardly and publicly, nor is (true) circumcision something external and physical.

But he is a Jew who is one inwardly, and (true) circumcision is of the heart, a spiritual and not a literal (matter). His praise is not from men but from God. Rom 2: 28-29

Check out Gal 2: 7. Here Paul takes the Gospel to the Gentiles, and Peter takes the Gospel to the Jews (outwardly circumcised. One Gospel to the Jews and the Gentiles!

Check out Heb 11: 13 These people all died controlled and sustained by their faith, but not having received the tangible fulfillment of (God's) promises, only having seen it and greeted it from a great distance by faith, and all the while acknowledging and confessing that they were strangers and temorary residents and exiles upon the earth.

Wow, the Abramamic Covenant has been in effect since Adam, with Christ being the second Adam, the Pascal Lamb of God.

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News Item7/26/10 8:50 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Big Daddy wrote:
Dispensationalism is a cult. Flat out.
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News Item7/26/10 8:45 PM
Big Daddy  Find all comments by Big Daddy
Dispensationalism is a cult. Flat out. There is one salvation only to be found in Christ, from Adam to the last of the Elect left standing. The Jews do not have a seperate salvation. Salvation is only to those of faith, both of the Jews and the Gentiles. The dividing wall is gone! Now go home and read your bible's!
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News Item7/26/10 4:51 PM
Tony Lopez-Cisneros  Find all comments by Tony Lopez-Cisneros
That's Why The SATANIC-VATICANIST "Jesuit(ic)" ("...JV'sfriends") Posted His STUPID Comment:

He's Trying To Switch The Subject Off Of TRUE HISTORIC AUTHORIZED BIBLICAL-LITERALIST JUDEO-CHRISTIANITY & Onto His Personal Idiotic Fantasies!

Feigning himself To Be A Proponet Of GEORGE WHITEFIELD, Yet Attacking And Trying To Discredit The Messenger & His Message Of TRUTH !

This "Jesuit(ic)...JV'sfriends" Is NOTHING MORE THAN THE SATANIC-VATICAN'S SHILL TO SUBVERT & TURN THE TRUE SAINTS OF ALMIGHTY GOD BACK INTO THE ARMS OF SATANIC-VATICANIST ROMAN-"CATHOLIC"-CULTIC AUGUSTINIAN AMILLENIAL "REPLACEMENT-"COVENANT" THEOLOGY !

GEORGE WHITEFIELD, EVIDENCED BY THE HISTORIC RESULTS OF HIS SPIRITUAL REVIVALS & EVANGELISTIC OPEN-AIR MEETINGS, HAD & DID WATER-BAPTIZE BY IMMERSION MORE TRUE CONVERTS THAN HE "POURED" OR "SPRINKLED" THEM !

THE TRUE WHITEFIELD CAN BE KNOWN BY HIS WRITINGS & THOSE OF HIS AUTHORIZED BIBLICAL-LITERAL JUDEO-CHRISTIAN CONTEMPORARIES: NOT JC RYLE !

OR BY THE ALLEGORIST & METAPHORIC HERETICS WHO FEIN THEMSELVES TO BE THE TRUE HISTORIC PROTESTANTS & PRIMATIVE JUDEO-CHRISTIANS OF OLD !

"...JV'sfriends" IS NOTHING BUT A FAKE & PHONEY "REFORMED"-ROMAN-"CATHOLIC" CULTIST: WHO SAVAGELY ATTACKS THE PRE-TRIBULATION / MILLENIAL RAPTURE & RETURN OF JESUS CHRIST !

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News Item7/26/10 4:29 PM
Exposing JV'sfriends  Find all comments by Exposing JV'sfriends
Tony Lopez-Cisneros wrote:
Let's Look Further Into George Whitefield's Analagy Of What A TRUE "Jew" Is & What A TRUE "Christian" Is:
"
Glad you are putting aside your Chick comic books and and reading a Giant of the faith like calvinist protestant Whitefield!

What books and sermons have you been reading by Whitefield?

"He was among the first in the eighteenth century who revived attention to the old truths which produced the Protestant Reformation. His constant assertion of the doctrines taught by the Reformers.." J C Ryle

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News Item7/26/10 4:09 PM
Tony Lopez-Cisneros  Find all comments by Tony Lopez-Cisneros
Let's Look Further Into GEORGE WHITEFIELD'S Analagy Of What A TRUE "Jew" &-Or A TRUE "Christian" Is:

"For He Is Not A JEW (CHRISTIAN) , Which Is One Outwardly; Neither Is That Circumcision, Which Is Outward In The Flesh:

But He Is A JEW (CHRISTIAN), Which Is One Inwardly; And Circumcision Is That Of The Heart, In The Spirit, And Not In The Letter; Whose Praise Is Not Of Men, But Of God." Romans 2:28-29

THIS ANALAGY CAN BE APPLIED TO THE PRESENT DAY CONTEMPORARY PROFESSING "CHRISTIANS" IN AMERICA & THE WORLD:

'FOR HE IS NOT A CHRISTIAN, WHICH IS ONE OUTWARDLY; NEITHER IS THAT "BAPTISM", WHICH IS OUTWARD IN THE FLESH (THAT IS, THE FLESH IN THE WATERS OF WATER-BAPTISM) !

BUT HE IS A CHRISTIAN, WHICH IS ONE INWARDLY; AND "BAPTISM" IS THAT OF THE HEART, IN THE SPIRIT, AND NOT IN THE LETTER; WHOSE PRAISE IS NOT OF MEN, BUT OF GOD !'

PLEASE, DON'T MISINTERPRET MY ABOVE STATEMENTS TO MEAN THERE'S NO NEED OR NECESSITY OF THE HISTORIC JEWISH &-OR JUDEO-CHRISTIAN OBSERVANCES / ORDINANCES OF "CIRCUMCISION" &-OR OF "(WATER-)BAPTISM".

OUR POINT IS THAT BEING A TRUE CHRISTIAN IS LIKE BEING A TRUE JEW--IT'S NOT ALL ABOUT OUTWARD CIRCUMCISION OR BAPTISM:

IT'S MORE ABOUT TRUE INWARD, HEART-FELT, HEART-EXPERIENCED & (HOLY-)SPIRITUAL REGENERATION, EXPERIENCE & PARTICIPATION !

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News Item7/26/10 4:07 PM
John UK | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by John UK
Yep wrote:
Yep, and it was the misguided premills/ dispy Zionists who influenced British policy in favor of Political Zionism (Balfour Declaration of 1917)and the League of Nations after WW1 Mandated Palestine to Great Britain, adding that GB would be responsibe for securing "the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people". In 1947 the UN voted in favor of the partition of Palestine which move was greeted with glee by Zionists. And so premill/dispy theology has been directly responsible for the establishment of the state of Israel. They made it happen, because they believed (and they still do) that this is part of God's program for the end times.
Thank you Yep. Methinks they do err, and grievously.
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News Item7/26/10 3:56 PM
Yep  Find all comments by Yep
John UK wrote:
Not knowing much about this subject, can it be true that there are folks who believe every Israelite will be saved? Wow!
Yep, and it was the misguided premills/ dispy Zionists who influenced British policy in favor of Political Zionism (Balfour Declaration of 1917)and the League of Nations after WW1 Mandated Palestine to Great Britain, adding that GB would be responsibe for securing "the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people". In 1947 the UN voted in favor of the partition of Palestine which move was greeted with glee by Zionists. And so premill/dispy theology has been directly responsible for the establishment of the state of Israel. They made it happen, because they believed (and they still do) that this is part of God's program for the end times.
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News Item7/26/10 3:39 PM
John UK | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by John UK
Not knowing much about this subject, can it be true that there are folks who believe every Israelite will be saved? Wow!
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News Item7/26/10 3:38 PM
jpw  Find all comments by jpw
If I may join in.....I interpret Romans 11 to mean there is only one salvation, through Christ, the olive tree. All redeemed grow from the tree of life, there is no other salvation. Nationalism will not redeem the soul of an Israeli anymore than it will a Gentile. Salvation is only through the redemption of the soul. It has always been through faith. It was never by works. Never.

I think of Palestinian Christians who are locked up in that area of the world, and Israeli Christians. All Christians are our brothers and sisters. These are the true family of God. Anyone outside of that may hear and believe, and we desire peace for all, however, Christ is the only Prince of Peace. Without Him, there is no redemption.

Is this another war cry? Is there an ounce of wisdom, sobering prayer? Are we ready for another war? Do we realize how stretched a generation of military are in our country? Constant deployments---you expect this for an entire generation, after 9 yrs already that their children will never have a stable life, being moved all the time, to have daddy gone anyway? Our philosophies have consequences and our eschatology. Support of Israel? OK, put another check on esch chart as world gets blown up and then get raptured out? Not the JEsus I know.

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News Item7/26/10 3:37 PM
Tony Lopez-Cisneros  Find all comments by Tony Lopez-Cisneros
Since THE HISTORIC AUTHORIZED BIBLICAL WORDS "Synagogue" & "Church" BOTH Basically Denote "A Convocated Assemblage Of People", Let's Read Revelation 2:9 & 3:9 MORE Carefully:

"I Know Thy Works, And Tribulation, And Poverty, (But Thou Art Rich) And I Know THE BLASPHEMY Of THEM Which Say THEY Are JEWS, And Are NOT, But Are THE SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN (THE CHURCH, ASSEMBLY, CONGREGATION, CONVOCATED ASSEMBLAGE OF PEOPLE OF SATAN)." Revelation 2:9

"Behold, I Will Make THEM Of THE SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN (THE CHURCH, ASSEMBLY, CONGREGATION, CONVOCATED ASSEMBLAGE OF PEOPLE OF SATAN), Which Say THEY Are JEWS, And Are NOT, But DO LIE; Behold, I Will Make THEM To Come And WORSHIP BEFORE THY FEET, AND KNOW THAT I HAVE LOVED THEE." Revelation 3:9

I Personally Believe The Key To Understanding "The Synagogue Of Satan" Is Found In Understanding What THE HISTORIC AUTHORIZED HOLY BIBLE Says What A TRUE "JEW" Is !

"FOR HE IS NOT A JEW, WHICH IS ONE OUTWARDLY; NEITHER IS THAT CIRCUMCISION, WHICH IS OUTWARD IN THE FLESH:

BUT HE IS A JEW, WHICH IS ONE INWARDLY; AND CIRCUMCISION IS THAT OF THE HEART, IN THE SPIRIT, AND NOT IN THE LETTER; WHOSE PRAISE IS NOT OF MEN, BUT OF GOD." ROMANS 2:28-29

AS GEORGE WHITEFIELD USED THE SAME ANALAGY WHEN SUBSTITUTING THE WORD "CHRISTIAN" FOR THE WORD "JEW" !

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News Item7/26/10 3:13 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Rethink that Cezar,

Romans 11
24 For if you were cut off from what is by nature a wild olive tree, and were grafted contrary to nature into a cultivated olive tree, how much more shall these who are the natural branches be grafted into their own olive tree?
25 For I do not want you, brethren, to be uninformed of this mystery, lest you be wise in your own estimation, that a partial hardening has happened to Israel until the fulness of the Gentiles has come in;
26 and thus all Israel will be saved; just as it is written, "THE DELIVERER WILL COME FROM ZION, HE WILL REMOVE UNGODLINESS FROM JACOB."
27 "AND THIS IS MY COVENANT WITH THEM, WHEN I TAKE AWAY THEIR SINS."---NASB

Does God Have a Future for Israel?: A Study of Romans 11

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News Item7/26/10 3:00 PM
Cezar | Midwest  Find all comments by Cezar
Jim Lincoln wrote:
Being pro-Zionist, of course is part of being Christian.
Think again.

I don't hate true Jews.
But, the Christ rejecters and false Jews, that are of the synagogue of Satan are our enemies.

(KJV)
Psalms 139:1-2
Titus 1:14
Revelation 2:9
Revelation 3:9
2 Timothy 4:1-4
Isaiah 5:20

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