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Choice News TUESDAY, JUN 1, 2010  |  37 comments  |  2 commentaries
Al and Tipper Gore, married 40 years, to separate
NASHVILLE, Tenn. – Former Vice President Al Gore and his wife, Tipper, are separating after 40 years of marriage that included a White House run when their sunny relationship offered a counterpoint to President Bill Clinton's philandering.

According to an e-mail circulated among the couple's associates on Tuesday, the Gores said it was "a mutual and mutually supportive decision that we have made together following a process of long and careful consideration."

Gore spokeswoman Kalee Kreider confirmed the statement came from the Gores, but declined to comment further.

The Gores were telling friends they "grew apart" after 40 years of marriage and there was no affair involved, according to two longtime close associates and family friends, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because it was a personal matter. ...


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News Item6/10/10 2:04 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Staying on topic, something Mr. Gore apparently didn't do,

Ecclesiastes 9
9 Enjoy life with the woman whom you love all the days of your fleeting life which He has given to you under the sun; for this is your reward in life, and in your toil in which you have labored under the sun.
Malachi 2
14 "Yet you say, 'For what reason?' Because the LORD has been a witness between you and the wife of your youth, against whom you have dealt treacherously, though she is your companion and your wife by covenant.
15 "But not one has done so who has a remnant of the Spirit. And what did that one do while he was seeking a godly offspring? Take heed then, to your spirit, and let no one deal treacherously against the wife of your youth.
1 Corinthians 7
2 But because of immoralities, let each man have his own wife, and let each woman have her own husband.
3 Let the husband fulfill his duty to his wife, and likewise also the wife to her husband.---NASB

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News Item6/9/10 2:02 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Matthew 19
3 And some Pharisees came to Him, testing Him, and saying, "Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any cause at all?"
4 And He answered and said, "Have you not read, that He who created them from the beginning MADE THEM MALE AND FEMALE,
5 and said, 'FOR THIS CAUSE A MAN SHALL LEAVE HIS FATHER AND MOTHER, AND SHALL CLEAVE TO HIS WIFE; AND THE TWO SHALL BECOME ONE FLESH'?
6 "Consequently they are no longer two, but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let no man separate."---NASB

Oh,

Ankerberg and Weldon wrote:
Remember that it was the KJV translators themselves who stated in their original preface that the very purpose of their translation was to provide God’s Word in a readable and understandable fashion. They recognized and accepted the translation work that had been done before them. So then how can anyone logically argue that they would object to modern translations being done today for the same purpose?
from The Conflict Over Different Bible Versions - Part 9
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News Item6/8/10 4:13 PM
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News Item6/8/10 3:22 PM
R2  Find all comments by R2
Redundancy wrote:
Al Gore's divorce, the oil spill, Sermon Audios new look. Alabama's governer, the shack, All news items are really ony about one issue; The NASB or the AV. Please Jim, and all your opponants, fill All these threads with Translation arguments. None of us really want to see remarks regarding the news item. We are all hoping to see these threads devoted to Transltion Arguments.
Amen! Translations, Translations, Translation, Translations.
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News Item6/8/10 3:10 PM
theswordinaction  Find all comments by theswordinaction
Jim Lincoln wrote:
no decent Bible can kept in a foreign tongue such as Elizabethan English,
As I say at end of previous comment, you seem to have a problem Jim as it is frequently pointed out on SA

What is the problem with the English in those posters

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News Item6/8/10 3:04 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
What, you think the [A]nglican [V]ersion (a Laodicean church that created a Sardis Bible!) is even a good Bible, God may only allowed a certain amount of corruption into it, The Preface to the King James Version And the King James Only position shows that even the translators of the AV expected better versions to come out.

So, what Bible in English, even an updated AV do you prefer because no decent Bible can kept in a foreign tongue such as Elizabethan English, Comparing Bible Translations:...English Style

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News Item6/8/10 2:56 PM
theswordinaction  Find all comments by theswordinaction
John UK wrote:
Phew, is that the devil whispering in Pinnochio's ear? And is that an NASB "Bible" he's reading? That explains why he's afflicted by the devil, coz the NASB doesn't have any info about "fasting and praying" to deal with the evil one. What a poor, flexible "sword" it is! A kiddy wielding an AV has got the real thing, solid and dependable.

The real thing unsheathed

Beware of those weilding anything else!

Good poster

TBS posters in USA gospel witness

The only literate American who has difficulty reading the above posters is 'links' Lincoln

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News Item6/8/10 2:45 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Still supporting the unholy smokescreen of King James and the unholy Anglican Chruch? You really should be pushing The Geneva Bible Of 1560 on its 450 anniversary instead of the one that was corrupted -- The Influence of An Anglican Archbishop on the KJV, the RSV of the 17th Century.

Just looking at Matthew 19:7 can see one of the many errors and this might not even be the Indisputable, universally recognized errors in the KJV. The word "immorality" is included in Matthew 19:9 in the better Bible translations.

Part III: From the KJV to the RV (from Elegance to Accuracy)

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News Item6/7/10 5:13 PM
John UK | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by John UK
Jessica Dawson wrote:
Simply using the word: "immorality" instead of "fornication" in this context and verse in the NASB is grossly misleading and may lead someone to divorce a spouse for improper grounds.
"Immoral" in the dictionary is not necessarily a sexual infraction:
You got it gal.
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News Item6/7/10 5:03 PM
Jessica Dawson | Canada  Find all comments by Jessica Dawson
Matthew 19 Greek Interlinear Bible (NT)

Matthew 19:7-9 KJV They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away? He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so. And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.

The word for fornication in Matthew 19:9 in the Greek is "porneia":

Definition - porneia

Simply using the word: "immorality" instead of "fornication" in this context and verse in the NASB is grossly misleading and may lead someone to divorce a spouse for improper grounds.

"Immoral" in the dictionary is not necessarily a sexual infraction:

Definition - immoral

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News Item6/7/10 4:37 PM
John UK | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by John UK
nosegrows wrote:
Canada says we need a Jeremiah
So Pinnochio needs to have a listen to Canadian Churches on sermonaudio who are still set for the defence of the gospel, and, er, still use the KJV
Canada has lost its' way and needs a Jeremiah
Canada doesn't need a Pinnochio
Wow that looks like a great series on Jeremiah, I might go through all that myself, as I love to hear preaching from Canada which is all Authorised Version. Those good Canadians sure know a thing or two about what milk and meat is good for them.

Phew, is that the devil whispering in Pinnochio's ear? And is that an NASB "Bible" he's reading? That explains why he's afflicted by the devil, coz the NASB doesn't have any info about "fasting and praying" to deal with the evil one. What a poor, flexible "sword" it is! A kiddy wielding an AV has got the real thing, solid and dependable.

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News Item6/7/10 4:18 PM
nosegrows  Find all comments by nosegrows
Jim Lincoln wrote:
Canada says "NO!" to KJV only
Canada says we need a Jeremiah

So Pinnochio needs to have a listen to Canadian Churches on sermonaudio who are still set for the defence of the gospel, and, er, still use the KJV

Canada has lost its' way and needs a Jeremiah

Canada doesn't need a Pinnochio

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News Item6/7/10 3:53 PM
John UK | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by John UK
Jessica Dawson wrote:
Matthew 19:7-9 KJV They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away? He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so. And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for *fornication*, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.
Matthew 19:7-9 NASB They said to Him, "Why then did Moses command to GIVE HER A CERTIFICATE OF DIVORCE AND SEND her AWAY?" He said to them, "Because of your hardness of heart Moses permitted you to divorce your wives; but from the beginning it has not been this way. "And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, except for *immorality*, and marries another woman commits adultery."
So previously (AV), *fornication* was the ONLY ground for divorce; but now, because of the NASB, you can divorce if your spouse is simply *immoral*.

So much for progress, Jessica.

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News Item6/7/10 2:24 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Jessica Dawson, and interesting example, and it shows why one should use a Bible in contemporary North American English! The so-called informal meaning for "put away" is to kill!

1 Corinthians 14:9
So also you, unless you utter by the tongue speech that is clear, how will it be known what is spoken? For you will be speaking into the air.---NASB

While this is not the thread to be doing it on, I wonder why these gentlemen at least don't point out the modern conversion to English of the [A]nglican [V]ersion they like best? It is a moot question, except discussing Bible versions.

King James Version Debate, King James Only Debate, The Facts on and King James Only Controversy for some interesting books on the subject.

By the way, Canada says "NO!" to KJV only

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News Item6/7/10 1:52 PM
John UK | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by John UK
Redundancy wrote:
After all, there is no thread dedicated to the subject. I think we need to stop even listening to sermons unless they deal with the translation debate.
You are quite right to castigate and censure sermonaudio for phasing out the members surveys, within which was a most suitable survey entitled "Which Bible Version Do You Use" and which was the ideal ground for debate on the issue, which issue is crucial, for if we have not the word of God in neither Hebrew, nor Greek, nor Latin, nor especially in English, then our Christian belief structures including statements of faith, confessions, sermons on inerrancy etc. will have to be reviewed and possibly abolished, maybe along with our own profession of faith and the only solution would be to...............................

go join the religious society of friends.

...that's "Quakers" if you didn't know.

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News Item6/7/10 1:39 PM
Jessica Dawson | Canada  Find all comments by Jessica Dawson
Matthew 19:7-9 KJV They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away? He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so. And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.

Matthew 19:7-9 NASB They said to Him, "Why then did Moses command to GIVE HER A CERTIFICATE OF DIVORCE AND SEND her AWAY?" He said to them, "Because of your hardness of heart Moses permitted you to divorce your wives; but from the beginning it has not been this way. "And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, except for immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery."

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News Item6/7/10 1:38 PM
Redundancy  Find all comments by Redundancy
Al Gore's divorce, the oil spill, Sermon Audios new look. Alabama's governer, the shack, All news items are really ony about one issue; The NASB or the AV. Please Jim, and all your opponants, fill All these threads with Translation arguments. None of us really want to see remarks regarding the news item. We are all hoping to see these threads devoted to Transltion Arguments. After all, there is no thread dedicated to the subject. I think we need to stop even listening to sermons unless they deal with the translation debate.
BTW; everyone knows that if you post One more argument, you will persuade Jim to use the AV. And Jim knows, without a shadow of a doubt, that if he gives us one more Link, we will all be convinced to use the NASB. Even though you post a Full 500 times.
And don't forget the people that will be so blinded with Righteous Indignation at the first glance of my post, that they will post attacks, not realizing that they are the very people I'm refering to. So please, lets see it again on this thread of Al Gores divorce, as wel as All Posts. What is the chief aim of threads? The nasb,No the kjv. The nasb, No the kjv. The nasb, No, the kjv. The nasb, No the kjv.The nasb, No the kjv. I would have capitalized but SA won't let it go through.Guess tony& jim have a way
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News Item6/7/10 1:12 PM
nosegrows  Find all comments by nosegrows
KingsBook wrote:
the NASB uses is the VATICANUS TEXT.
You shouldn't tell lies Jim.
Reading my Vaticanus NASB

Do I tell lies...my nose!!

Pinnochio of course

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News Item6/7/10 12:24 PM
KingsBook  Find all comments by KingsBook
Jim Lincoln wrote:
Ah, I never use Catholic bibles!
YES!! You do Jim.

One of the Greek texts which the NASB uses is the VATICANUS TEXT.

You shouldn't tell lies Jim.

BTW Jim For your continued edification...
The KING JAMES VERSION does not use the Vaticanus.

The Holy Spirit kept the KJV pure by using the Textus Receptus.

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News Item6/6/10 5:41 PM
thesleepingchurch  Find all comments by thesleepingchurch
Jim Lincoln wrote:
Ah, I never use Catholic bibles! [

By Catholic you mean RC, rather than the universal Bible of the true church?

Lest we forget the KJV was the catholic and true ecumenical Bible in the positive theological sense that it was 'the' evangelical Bible for some centuries blessed and owned by the HS.

What was 'the' Bible of the last Great Awakening? The NIV or your own modern version

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