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MONDAY, MAR 1, 2010  |  19 comments
Obama yet to kick smoking habit
President Barack Obama hasn't kicked the smoking habit, takes anti-inflammatory medication to relieve chronic tendinitis in his left knee and should eat better to lower his cholesterol, his team of doctors concluded Sunday after the 48-year-old's first medical checkup as commander in chief.

The hoops-happy chief executive, who has endured an exhausting White House run and yearlong battles with congressional Republicans, was otherwise declared in excellent health and fit for duty.


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News Item3/7/10 7:14 AM
ex tab man  Find all comments by ex tab man
Cigars smoking today
As much as I love Spurgeon and his smoking to the Glory of God, he did so in an era when medical science said Cigar smoking was good for you. I suspect today he wouldn't approve of his name used to promote a brand of Cigars!

In God's particular providence I visited my Father yesterday, his first words were that a neighbour who moved into the cottages was taken to hospital with 'Emphysema'...his age? 60.

See my earlier post

The man told my Father that he was transferred to another Hospital and that night two other heavy smokers were put on oxygen machines...both dead the following morning.

Do Christian smokers really want a bed in their local hospital and come face-to-face with their own oxygen mask as Smoking Kills, but it won't get me-some comfort?

The UK Government have a health warning on tobacco to remain ethical...but will not ban it because of the great tax revenues. Smoking Can Seriously Damage Your Health

When the Government are forced to say that and lose substantial revenue as folk quit, then you know you know you need to know what those in the know know

Christian Smoker...give it some thought

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News Item3/6/10 4:45 PM
Spud Nick | orbiting  Find all comments by Spud Nick
Excuse me, but oh coooeee, Prince Charles..
if you dont mind me saying so,er,your royal highness, but does smoking pollute your body which is the temple of the Holy Ghost?

I beg to know the answer to this question before i go off again in a puff ...

Thankee . I do hope that i am not out of order saying this,your royal highness,but its a shame that you are attached,hum cough,to that Camilla lady , as she was somebody elses wife.

Oh, does Camilla and the Queen mind you blowing smoke around the palace ?

Or do you only smoke on the Island of Anglesey? well,you are the Prince of Wales,they tell me,so i suppose that means that you can do exactly as you like,yes?.

Bye,bye.

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News Item3/2/10 9:53 PM
Alan H | Washington State  Protected NameFind all comments by Alan H
Neil wrote:
"Spurgeon came under conviction for smoking cigars and repented."

Unsubstantiated claim which is denied in the URL I provided, Alan. Please give a reference proving your claim.

If the boy in Alan's car equated Christian holiness with abstaining from cigarettes, then his misapprehension should've been corrected. Otherwise this anecdote simply begs the question.

Neil, I had heard that many years ago. Never searched into it to find out whether it was so or not. I didn't have any reason to do so. But since I intended to mention it on this thread, perhaps, I should have checked it out first. Anyway, the fact that Spurgeon smoked cigars is not questioned by anyone, but as to whether he ever quit and why, there are varying opinions.

That little boy did not equate "Christian holiness" with abstaining from cigarettes, he equated "my holiness" with abstaining from cigarettes. Young people are too often prone to hold too high of an opinion of some of those adults whom they respect and thereby they are subject to great disappointment, but in Christian ministers they should have a greater prospect of seeing a good and sincere example, don't you think?

Perhaps he thought too much of me! But perhaps I thought too little of him!

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News Item3/2/10 3:03 PM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
Another detour from Jim.
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News Item3/2/10 2:56 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Neil wrote:
Obama smokes?? Horrors! Is there no limit to this man's depravity?
Try to forget that Spurgeon had an occasional cigar.
Ah, Neil, if you look at the bottom of the article about what C.H. said about the calming effect of his cigar, he can't claim like Clinton, he didn't inhale! Freedom From Addiction, Breaking the Cycle of Sin. It looks like Charles sin was, a fondness for food?
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News Item3/2/10 11:36 AM
ex-tab man  Find all comments by ex-tab man
prince charles wrote:
thanks ex tab man, i havent had a cig today so thats something !

Next shall we move onto junk food Amazing that the Olympics in London is sponsored by Coca cola, McDonalds and Cadbury

I think I'll get my exercise bike out and train, whilst smoking a tab and eating a family bar of Dairy Milk

I like motorised bikes better

Thought comment below from a blog was interesting, maybe Gluttony isn't a sin today, or at least it is a respectable sin:

"I find it quite hypocritical when an obese minister rings the rafters with his message against drinking, when he is a living example of one being unable to control his appetite. Take a look around the sanctuary on Sunday at how many overweight people are in our churches, yet we dare not speak against that."

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News Item3/2/10 11:20 AM
prince charles | anglesey wales  Find all comments by prince charles
ex-tab man wrote:
Well you can't say your Sovereign God didn't send a warning!
thanks ex tab man, i havent had a cig today so thats something !
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News Item3/2/10 11:15 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Neil wrote:
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If the boy in Alan's car equated Christian holiness with abstaining from cigarettes, then his misapprehension should've been corrected. Otherwise this anecdote simply begs the question.
BTW, I have never smoked.
As the grown-up Christian Alan might better have considered the boy in the back seat as a weaker brother, not yet mature enough to make such grown-up Christian distinctions. He would then not have been doing that which is perceived, albeit wrongly, as unchristian. The principles put forth in Romans 14 seem to support this. The passage isn't critical of the weaker Christian for being weaker, but of the stronger for being uncharitable.
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News Item3/2/10 10:58 AM
ex-tab man  Find all comments by ex-tab man
Smoking accelerates the hardening and narrowing process in your arteries and blood clots are two to four times more likely.

Smoking can cause an aneurysm.

For ex-smokers, it takes approximately 15 years before the risk of lung cancer drops to the same as that of a non-smoker. Ninety percent of lung cancer cases are due to smoking.

Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease (COPD) is a collective term for a group of conditions that block airflow and make breathing more difficult, such as:

Emphysema - breathlessness caused by damage to the air sacs within the lungs
Chronic Bronchitis - coughing with a lot of mucus that continues for at least three months.

Smoking is the most common cause of COPD and is responsible for 80% of cases.

Charles

I was a smoker for years, then converted and later came under conviction (unfashionable word?) that it does damage your health like a slow suicide...relatives died of Emphysema-all smokers, not very pleasant to witness.

A harmful addiction is the hardest thing to admit and a hard thing to break and I speak from experience, give it some more research as it is usually around 60 you hit the major problems!
Well you can't say your Sovereign God didn't send a warning!

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News Item3/2/10 10:36 AM
prince charles | anglesey wales  Find all comments by prince charles
somebody asked me recently how can you call yourself a christian (when i said i smoked) so its a great oppurtunity to tell people what being a christian is (and is not) the important thing is not to hide anything
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News Item3/2/10 10:28 AM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
"Spurgeon came under conviction for smoking cigars and repented."

Unsubstantiated claim which is denied in the URL I provided, Alan. Please give a reference proving your claim.

If the boy in Alan's car equated Christian holiness with abstaining from cigarettes, then his misapprehension should've been corrected. Otherwise this anecdote simply begs the question.

BTW, I have never smoked.

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News Item3/2/10 3:38 AM
Whale In The Desert | Australia  Find all comments by Whale In The Desert
I puffed on them suckers for over 35 years and have been smoke free for about 8 years.No matter what people tell you and how everyone says you will die,a smoker will never give up until,they,want to give it up.....Waste of money and terrible health hazard.
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News Item3/2/10 3:37 AM
prince charles | anglesey wales  Find all comments by prince charles
Alan H wrote:
BTW, Neil, Spurgeon came under conviction for smoking cigars and repented.
PC, Roll ups are very bad for you too!
thanks alan, when i woke up this morning i thought maybe i wont smoke to day just for a change

Yes the social side of smoking is an issue, i dont hide it, but i dont smoke around the brethren unless im in my own home and its purely social ie nothing to do with the gospel, reason being not to tempt my brother or cause them to sin or discourage them but people know i smoke.
Its not an issue with my smoking infidel friends, in fact it seems to put them at ease if i share a smoke with them (but not endlessly smoking habitually) just the one

non smoking friends raise eyebrows at first but i use it to talk about the real Gospel explaining what the real criteria is for getting into heavan not as the infidels imagine.

with smoking tho there is a line to be drawn between habitually being enslaved and a pleasure, also i dont spend much money on tobacco, maybe 5 pounds a week

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News Item3/1/10 11:02 PM
Alan H | Washington State  Protected NameFind all comments by Alan H
Smoking is kind of like an adult pacifier. Those who have never smoked or tried quitting have no idea how hard it is to break the habit. And it is only when someone tries quitting that they realize how strong that addiction is (just like all sin). Many more people fail in their attempt to quit that succeed.

In the early 80s I was teaching an adult Sunday school class at a church. After church I was giving a couple of young men a ride home from church when a boy in the back seat was goofing off and reached into my coat pocket and pulled out my pack of cigarettes. I tried to keep my habit a secret. He said to me, "And you call your self a Christian?" I never regained his respect after that. That was the worst part. A few years after this event I quit for four years, but started up again when I had a severe crisis in my life. I finally quit for good in 1992, after many failed attempts, having smoked for over twenty some years.

Three things keep me from ever smoking again:

Firstly, remembering the struggle it was to quit.

Secondly, seeing people at work in bondage to that same habit.

Thirdly, I know that I would probably never be free of it again.

BTW, Neil, Spurgeon came under conviction for smoking cigars and repented.

PC, Roll ups are very bad for you too!

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News Item3/1/10 5:42 PM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
Mike, I don't think Obama would admit that personal habits like smoking would be affected by his proposed plan. That is a "slippery-slope" inference by Rush et al.

But unlike yourself, some Christians I know make a big deal about smoking, as if it was an infallible sign of worldliness. I would be intensely grateful if that was the very worst that Christians could do.

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News Item3/1/10 4:02 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Neil wrote:
Obama smokes?? Horrors! Is there no limit to this man's depravity?
Try to forget that Spurgeon had an occasional cigar.
I don't care if Obama smokes. His decisions concerning the care of his health are his own. Would that he would grant me the same.

prince charles wrote:
I smoke roll up cigarettes since i was 16 im 47 now maybe i should stop ...dunno im active never short of breath or anything i dont smoke all day like some tho, i never have i like a smoke in the evening maybe one or two during the day honestly no more than that, i dont like cigarettes in a packet (they are bad for you )
Perhaps your smoking events are simply those which have been ordained by divine fiat. For God's greater glory, of course.
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News Item3/1/10 12:08 PM
prince charles | anglesey wales  Find all comments by prince charles
I smoke roll up cigarettes since i was 16 im 47 now maybe i should stop ...dunno im active never short of breath or anything i dont smoke all day like some tho, i never have i like a smoke in the evening maybe one or two during the day honestly no more than that, i dont like cigarettes in a packet (they are bad for you )
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News Item3/1/10 11:13 AM
San Jose John | San Jose, CA  Find all comments by San Jose John
If/when he quits, we all get a slight tax cut, since we pay his salary, which pays for his smokes, which have somewhere between 40-60 percent tax included in the price (if I remember correctly).
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News Item3/1/10 11:11 AM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
Obama smokes?? Horrors! Is there no limit to this man's depravity?

Try to forget that Spurgeon had an occasional cigar.

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