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THURSDAY, FEB 18, 2010  |  8 comments
Apologist: Christianity Losing Out to Secular Humanism?
America once stood on the foundation of God's Word. But that foundation is crumbling – even in the church – and being replaced by man's word, observed one Christian apologist.

"Whatever we (America) once were, we are no longer. We have changed," said Ken Ham, president of Answers in Genesis, in his second State of the Nation address on Tuesday.

The Young Earth creationist was citing President Obama's well-known mantra that America is no longer just a Christian nation as he delivered an hour-long speech outlining where America and Christianity stand today – just weeks after Obama's State of the Union address. ...


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Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Matthew 13
15 FOR THE HEART OF THIS PEOPLE HAS BECOME DULL, AND WITH THEIR EARS THEY SCARCELY HEAR, AND THEY HAVE CLOSED THEIR EYES LEST THEY SHOULD SEE WITH THEIR EYES, AND HEAR WITH THEIR EARS, AND UNDERSTAND WITH THEIR HEART AND RETURN, AND I SHOULD HEAL THEM.'
16 "But blessed are your eyes, because they see; and your ears, because they hear.
2 Timothy 4
2 preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort, with great patience and instruction.
3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires;
4 and will turn away their ears from the truth, and will turn aside to myths.---NASB

People are alway turning away from the Word, this happen to most so-called Christians between 313 to 1517 A.D. (and even up to today.) So the more important Gospel has to be proclaim rather than hand wringing over what has and what will continue to happen. Proclaim the Word

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News Item2/19/10 2:37 AM
Guinness  Find all comments by Guinness
Neil wrote:
"You 86 the rules. You do what just feels right. You do whatever you wanna-kah and to all a cheery night."
Secularists & modernists by no means have a monopoly on this informal antinomianism. But I'm not sure Ham is even aware of it, though the problem exists among many of his supporters, if my experience with Christian practical atheists is any indication. Even AiG plays manipulative games in their fund-raising.
"We have met the enemy and he is us." - Walt Kelly
We should remember that whatever games may have been played, "CMI and AiG are pleased to inform you that the dispute between the ministries has been settled to their mutual satisfaction.
Each ministry is now focused on its respective mission, having put this dispute behind them in April of 2009."

The previous evidence documented before the judiciary and arbitrators have been put as far behind them as terrorist weapons in Northern Ireland.

I find it strange (in the sense of highly irregular rather than unpredictable) that very public disputes and allegations, including "claims of unethical dealing in the handling of [public] magazine subscriptions", are then settled privately.

Yes, that that is how lawyers and The Mitchell Principles work, but biblically?
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News Item2/18/10 10:27 PM
John Paul  Find all comments by John Paul
It is God who is winning,and Satan who has been defeated. God's elect will come......because they know His voice!Everytime God's elect come, it is a testament to the power of the Holy Spirit over evil.
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News Item2/18/10 4:22 PM
Leopold Street  Find all comments by Leopold Street
We might not be happy with the numbers game today, but at least they don't feed us to the lions. (Yet)?

As Jesus points out it is not so much the reprobates outside the church that should be concerned, - but the reprobates inside the church.....
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. Matthew 7.

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News Item2/18/10 11:28 AM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
"You 86 the rules. You do what just feels right. You do whatever you wanna-kah and to all a cheery night."

Secularists & modernists by no means have a monopoly on this informal antinomianism. But I'm not sure Ham is even aware of it, though the problem exists among many of his supporters, if my experience with Christian practical atheists is any indication. Even AiG plays manipulative games in their fund-raising.

"We have met the enemy and he is us." - Walt Kelly

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News Item2/18/10 8:24 AM
princecharles | anglesey uk  Contact via emailFind all comments by princecharles
Scott McMahan wrote:
I disagree. The problem is not secularism as much as "non-doctrinal" Christianity.
yup thats pretty much it exactly, my own thoughts have been leading in this direction for a while now, we are in a sea of deception and NIV apostatsy soem a very few are waking upi was reading 2 cor 2 this morning

14 Now thanks be unto God, which always causeth us to triumph in Christ, and maketh manifest the savour of his knowledge by us in every place. 15 For we are unto God a sweet savour of Christ, in them that are saved, and in them that perish: 16 To the one we are the savour of death unto death; and to the other the savour of life unto life. And who is sufficient for these things? 17 For we are not as many, which corrupt the word of God: but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ.

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News Item2/18/10 8:05 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
"He quoted one article as stating: 'A historic transition is occurring, barely noticed. Slowly, quietly, imperceptibly, religion is shriveling in America, as it already has in Europe, Canada, Australia, Japan – across the developed world. Increasingly, supernatural faith belongs to the third world. The first world is entering the long-predicted Secular Age, when science and knowledge dominate.'"

And how is this entering the secular age working for us so far? Or shouldn't we spoil the delusion by asking the question?

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News Item2/18/10 7:02 AM
Scott McMahan | Internet  Find all comments by Scott McMahan
I disagree. The problem is not secularism as much as "non-doctrinal" Christianity. I live in an area where a new "non-doctrinal" feel-good, entertainment-oriented church opens every month or so. They have no real beliefs or standards, only vague "mission statements". This brand of Christianity has no distinctives of the historical faith, and doesn't really believe anything. As a result, people are never even exposed to historical Christianity doctrines, and lose the ability to think in Christian terms. (This is almost straight out of George Orwell's 1984 - the very meaning of "Christian" has been changed so that people are not aware that what they believe isn't historical Christianity.) So now people are inoculated against historical Christianity, because they think they are "Christian" and never look beyond the bubble they are in. I think this is a million times more dangerous than anything secularists are doing.
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