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THURSDAY, FEB 18, 2010  |  25 comments
Caring for Pets Left Behind by the Rapture
Many people in the U.S.—perhaps 20 million to 40 million—believe there will be a Second Coming in their lifetimes, followed by the Rapture . In this event, they say, the righteous will be spirited away to a better place while the godless remain on Earth. But what will become of all the pets?

Bart Centre, 61, a retired retail executive in New Hampshire, says many people are troubled by this question, and he wants to help. He started a service called Eternal Earth-Bound Pets that promises to rescue and care for animals left behind by the saved. ...


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Guinness | Pets-A-Millennium  Contact via emailFind all comments by Guinness
bump.

Guinness wrote:
Email ME in the next 20 minutes and we'll double the price!
But hurry we CAN do this all day and every time we repeat the commercial.
For your pet's Millennium Experience call ME!
Pets-A-Millennium!
All our clients say "P-A-M WOW!"
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News Item2/19/10 1:59 PM
San Jose John | San Jose, CA  Find all comments by San Jose John
woolysheep wrote:
I guess the main problem is that animals were not created with an immortal soul.

If I follow your reasoning then all the animals ever created will be in eternity? As much as I love pets I see a few problems as link below, see what you think.
Do pets go to heaven?

In the new creation (after rapture, judgement, etc.), surely animals will not be animals in the fallen, earthly sense, nor will plants be plants, etc.

I guess my main point is they won't be damned thus they'll be part of the new heaven and new earth. I can't even begin to tell you what form the new creation or it's components will take except that it will be very different from what we are experiencing now.

The link you submitted seems pretty accurate, Biblically, but don't just trust in one link for you conclusions.

Good links are good, but I've found that the more Bible I can get into my head, the more The Spirit is able to teach me about even the most difficult subjects, like this one.

Take care.

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News Item2/19/10 1:54 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
woolysheep wrote:
---
Also will those innocent dogs still bite? Will the Big innocent Cats (lions)used to maul and eat Christians at Rome be just big 'pussy cats'?
Will God then change their innocent natures so that they don't bite, but why will He need to change? Or do you say animals bite because of the effect of the curse on original creation, and man's sin and consequent treatment of animals is to blame
If I follow your reasoning then all the animals ever created will be in eternity? As much as I love pets I see a few problems as link below, see what you think.
Do pets go to heaven?
Isaiah 11:6,7
"The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.
And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox."
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News Item2/19/10 12:55 PM
princecharles | anglesey uk  Contact via emailFind all comments by princecharles
Alan H wrote:
Did you ever think that maybe your cat, batman, might get raptured, leaving you behind?
ha ha ! no i never worried about that he is a very wicked cat on the quiet and would be sure to suffer with the unrepentant

he has been guilty of consuming two of my budgies and indirectly causing the death of another thru loneliness - its the bright colors set him off also he really hates birds for some reason i mean really hates them

also he ate my sons hamster and tried to eat the degus. he is a serial offender toward the other pets he is also very sly and will secret himself within striking distance of food laid on the table

no batman is an extremely wicked creature although i mostly overlook this

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News Item2/19/10 12:32 PM
woolysheep  Find all comments by woolysheep
San Jose John wrote:
it follows that all animals, plants, rocks, trees, etc. will be destroyed and recreated along with the rest of the earth. Animals are part of the original creation that was cursed because of OUR sin, not theirs.
I guess the main problem is that animals were not created with an immortal soul.

Also will those innocent dogs still bite? Will the Big innocent Cats (lions)used to maul and eat Christians at Rome be just big 'pussy cats'?

Will God then change their innocent natures so that they don't bite, but why will He need to change? Or do you say animals bite because of the effect of the curse on original creation, and man's sin and consequent treatment of animals is to blame

If I follow your reasoning then all the animals ever created will be in eternity? As much as I love pets I see a few problems as link below, see what you think.

Do pets go to heaven?

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News Item2/19/10 11:27 AM
San Jose John | San Jose, CA  Find all comments by San Jose John
apossiblenoneprobability wrote:
Scripture proof? 'probably' isn't a good hope for the millions of pets now dead and buried...give them a scripture hope.
Every time I look at my 19-year-old cat I rejoice, knowing he's not culpable for the curse and its effects that he is increasingly suffering from (Adam, myself, and rest of humanity are at fault for that). Bible talks of animal spirits going into the earth with the body (Eccl 3:20,21), while people are judged (Heb 9:27). Therefore if the WHOLE animal goes back to the earth where it came from, then it follows that all animals, plants, rocks, trees, etc. will be destroyed and recreated along with the rest of the earth. Animals are part of the original creation that was cursed because of OUR sin, not theirs. Therefore all animals are innocent and immune from any future judgement.

WE, the people, are the ones who have to worry about that. WE need Christ. Animals are (ultimately) fine and safe.

Hope this helps you. Sure helps ME...and my CAT!

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News Item2/19/10 6:23 AM
princecharles | anglesey uk  Contact via emailFind all comments by princecharles
Guinness wrote:
Chas,
I'm sorry the limited time offer on our $220 sign-up sale has expired. 72 minutes was just too long.
I can do you a deal for $330, and we can extend the contract to 15 years.
P-A-M Wow!
Engineered in Germany!
Augsburg Confession—Art. XVII.
whoa ! Im beggining to see that this deal is a little to good to be true !

Theres a 15 year contract ? hmmm surely only seven years is required and some say 3.5 ?

you may be able to sucker most people most of the time but youve gotta get up pretty early in the morning to get one past pc !

now i see how you can offer such a huge discount get the money for 15 years up front when at the most you only need outgoings for 7 hmmmm

just like the banks here in the uk,

1. get billions from the tax payer
2. take deposits at 0 %
3. lend at 6 %
4. sweet

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News Item2/19/10 4:50 AM
Guinness | Pets-A-Millenium  Contact via emailFind all comments by Guinness
Chas,

I'm sorry the limited time offer on our $220 sign-up sale has expired. 72 minutes was just too long.

I can do you a deal for $330, and we can extend the contract to 15 years.

P-A-M Wow!

Engineered in Germany!
Augsburg Confession—Art. XVII.

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News Item2/19/10 4:32 AM
prince charles | anglesey wales  Find all comments by prince charles
Guinness wrote:
Email ME in the next 20 minutes and we'll double the price!
But hurry we CAN do this all day and every time we repeat the commercial.
For your pet's Millennium Experience call ME!
Wow id better be quick ! did u get the cheque yet ? Curse that postal service if only i could buy on line using my credit card!!!

man ive NEVER given a thought to my cats amill experience i cant believe ive been so selfish its been a one way street for 13 years ive enjoyed having him around and in recent years have been anticipating 'taking off' suddenly without warning and just leaving him behind. I feel really guilty about this and im willing to spend a few quid to salve my consience

is that phone A-MILL-2050 ?

Hi Alan, yes he really is called batman on account of his special powers which mainly consist of being able to scale high vertical walls also he is black he always sits with us on a chair at mealtimes and watches us eat never misses it.

Neil my thoughts on the rapture with yours in so far as it will hardly be noticed by the rest of them ! There will be so few that itll be put down to a mystery virus and the corpses will still be here. Itll be a mystery for a day or two then everyone will lose interest.

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News Item2/19/10 3:20 AM
Guinness | Pets-A-Millennium  Contact via emailFind all comments by Guinness
Alan H wrote:
Hey! You guys are laughing, but this guy is making real money off those who have bought into this foolish notion of a secret rapture.
Email ME in the next 20 minutes and we'll double the price!
But hurry we CAN do this all day and every time we repeat the commercial.

For your pet's Millennium Experience call ME!

Pets-A-Millennium!

All our clients say "P-A-M WOW!"

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News Item2/18/10 10:08 PM
Alan H | Washington State  Protected NameFind all comments by Alan H
Hey! You guys are laughing, but this guy is making real money off those who have bought into this foolish notion of a secret rapture. Sounds like a scam to me! What sounds like a scam??? What this guy is doing??? No, the secret rapture!!!

princecharles,

Do you really have a cat named "batman"?

That's classic! I love it! Matter of fact, we have a black and white kitten, mostly black (5 & 1/2 months). She kind of looks like... Nah! I don't think so! Did you ever think that maybe your cat, batman, might get raptured, leaving you behind? Just in case, I think your cat needs to find an infidel cat to be your pet when he's gone. Hey! You don't put a funny mask and cape on that poor little cat, do you? Your cat, doesn't, by chance, like to hang upside down, does it? Spooky!

BTW, for a small fee I can provide you with an infidel cat. And just for you, your highness; buy three, get one free.

Man, this guys really started something. We're all becoming flaming capitalists.

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News Item2/18/10 4:56 PM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
Consider the possibility that there are so few real Christians (those who actually believe the Gospel) around that, contrary to LaHaye/Jenkins's fiction, the world won't notice much should the pretrib Rapture occur as taught. Just a few more Missing Persons, that's all.

But I'll grant that Christians *are* well practiced at disappearing - I've seen more than a few families vanish from churches w/o a trace or explanation. Probably some dispute with leadership that couldn't be resolved, & was covered up. You can't fight city hall, or pastors, & win.

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News Item2/18/10 4:28 PM
Raptureless Facts  Find all comments by Raptureless Facts
Mike wrote:
You Ammillelennialiniallists sure are going to feel bad one day. Not to worry though, the pouting will pass.
Hey Mike;
Never mind the "pets"
What about the "kids" who will be left behind? Who is going to care for them?
The PreMill Orphanage??
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News Item2/18/10 4:17 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
AMill wrote:
I thought I would help you premill's out there by spelling this word properly for you. - Amillennial.
Note - 2 "L's" and 2 "N's"
You see how we Amillennialist's can be nice too!
BTW There isn't going to be any rapture, floating Christians and 1000 years for God to make sure His choices were correct.
God doesn't need to do that.
God's promise in Scripture is for eternal life - not a measley 1000 years. BTW "eternal" is longer than 1000 years.
You Ammillelennialiniallists sure are going to feel bad one day. Not to worry though, the pouting will pass.
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News Item2/18/10 3:51 PM
AMill  Find all comments by AMill
I thought I would help you premill's out there by spelling this word properly for you. - Amillennial.

Note - 2 "L's" and 2 "N's"

You see how we Amillennialist's can be nice too!

BTW There isn't going to be any rapture, floating Christians and 1000 years for God to make sure His choices were correct.

God doesn't need to do that.
God's promise in Scripture is for eternal life - not a measley 1000 years. BTW "eternal" is longer than 1000 years.

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News Item2/18/10 2:16 PM
princecharles | anglesey uk  Contact via emailFind all comments by princecharles
whiskerswarnings wrote:
Batman, nice cat! Needs a Left Behind lined paper basket so he says in his email to me
Thanks ! add a gross to my shopping cart !

worryingly, weve just moved in to a house which does not have a catflap to allow batman free ingress and egress to the house in the event of my / our removal.

If he is stuck inside he will starve to death within reach of abundant supplies of whiskas which even he will be unable to access, if outside he will be cold and have to defend himself which is already becoming increasingly difficult as most of his teeth have fallen out.

1. all pretribbers should regularly test the operation of their pets cat / dogflap

2. pretribbers should make at least one reliable friend amongst the amillenial brethren who will in the event be able give succour to deserted pets

3. failing this - befriend an infidel !
your absence and forward preparation will be a tremendous Gospel witness and the grateful animal will be a constant reminder that you escaped and a comfort to them during the awful events to come.

4. leave a tract in a silver cartrige around their collar, go easy on the 'i told you so' and allow them to swop the silver for food if they will refrain from eating your pet

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News Item2/18/10 1:34 PM
apossiblenoneprobability  Find all comments by apossiblenoneprobability
San Jose John wrote:
All animals and remains thereof will probably be re-generated along with the old earth into the new heavens/new earth.
Scripture proof? 'probably' isn't a good hope for the millions of pets now dead and buried...give them a scripture hope.
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News Item2/18/10 11:30 AM
San Jose John | San Jose, CA  Find all comments by San Jose John
Scott McMahan wrote:
But aren't good pets raptured too?
All animals and remains thereof will probably be re-generated along with the old earth into the new heavens/new earth.

It'll sure be interesting to see what new glorious form or essence God eventually gives them in the new creation. To say the least!

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News Item2/18/10 11:09 AM
whiskerswarnings  Find all comments by whiskerswarnings
princecharles wrote:
wow this is a great deal ! Is this a extrabenefit for being on SA ? will you take a cheque ? I can pay up front - no on second thoughts ill send the cheque now before you change your mind ! Ill have a crate for john as well i dont know if he has a cat but at that price id be mad to look this once in a lifetime gift horse in the mouth - cheque on its way !!!
i am a pretribber but i must confessed i never gave a thought to my cat (batman) does this make me uncaring ?
I wont get any more pets after him

Yes there is a benefit, methinks the secret rapture will result in many millions of 'Left Behind' fiction novels being, er, ... left behind.

Why leave them behind when they can be used TODAY! Cat's love novelties and the paper can line cat trays and cat sleeping beds. Only $25 per book inc post to you.

$$$$$$ signs!

$$$$$$

Batman, nice cat! Needs a Left Behind lined paper basket so he says in his email to me

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News Item2/18/10 8:17 AM
princecharles | anglesey uk  Contact via emailFind all comments by princecharles
Whiskerswarnings wrote:
If you live in the UK that translates to £350 per delivery at very special price. (John and Charles-as you both live in Wales I can do a deal for £200 each)
wow this is a great deal ! Is this a extrabenefit for being on SA ? will you take a cheque ? I can pay up front - no on second thoughts ill send the cheque now before you change your mind ! Ill have a crate for john as well i dont know if he has a cat but at that price id be mad to look this once in a lifetime gift horse in the mouth - cheque on its way !!!

i am a pretribber but i must confessed i never gave a thought to my cat (batman) does this make me uncaring ?
I wont get any more pets after him

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