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THURSDAY, FEB 11, 2010  |  11 comments  |  1 commentary
Stunningly Preserved 165-Million-Year-Old Spider Fossil Found

Scientists have unearthed an almost perfectly preserved spider fossil in China dating back to the middle Jurassic era, 165 million years ago. The fossilized spiders, Eoplectreurys gertschi, are older than the only two other specimens known by around 120 million years.

The level of detail preserved in the fossils is amazing, said paleontologist Paul Selden of the University of Kansas and lead author of the study appearing Feb. 6 in Naturwissenschaften. “You go in with a microscope, and bingo! It’s fantastic.”

The fossils were found at a site called Daohugou in Northern China that is filled with fossilized salamanders, small primitive mammals, insects and water crustaceans. During the Jurassic era, the fossil bed was part of a lake in a volcanic region, Selden said. ...


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News Item3/18/10 11:53 PM
Jessica Dawson | Canada  Contact via emailFind all comments by Jessica Dawson
Wee Al wrote:
So we can take it a spider has always been a spider then?
Excellent point!
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News Item3/18/10 11:37 PM
Kyle | Northern Utah  Find all comments by Kyle
Neil,

Did you see that an attempt was made to explain that soft tissue as some sort of 'biofilm' and thus dispatch with it? Mary Schweitzer (the original discoverer of the tissue) upheld her original conclusions.

The story you mention was also featured in the May 2006 Smithsonian Magazine. It has one of my favorite quotes, "Even after 68 million years, these dinosaur remains look surprisingly fresh under Schweitzer’s microscope." Classic!

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News Item3/5/10 10:40 AM
foster | England  Contact via emailFind all comments by foster
The only word that remains the same is the word of God
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News Item3/5/10 10:30 AM
ouini | Iowa  Contact via emailFind all comments by ouini
Mike wrote:
What would you like the world to hold as relevant non-ideological beliefs?
As I said, reasonableness. I'd like the world to hold beliefs that fit facts and data, and change its beliefs when new or better data are learned.

This, instead of ideology.

Many people claim to do this while, not sharing facts, not making reasonable conclusions based on facts, but rather quoting their preferred set of ideological instructions.

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News Item3/1/10 4:45 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
ouini wrote:
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There may always be pocket bastions of ideological beliefs. But hopefully the world as a whole will eventually see them as irrelevant.
What would you like the world to hold as relevant non-ideological beliefs?
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News Item3/1/10 3:31 PM
ouini | Iowa  Contact via emailFind all comments by ouini
"In 1961 it was only 50 million years old?"

What an odd thing to say. Mainstream science has been pretty darn sure the earth is at least billions of years old since radiometric dating got enough data points, well before WWII.

The measure of a person's reasonableness is not how stubbornly one clings to an ideology. It's one's genuine willingness to discard a dearly held belief, and to change one's mind to fit newly learned facts and data. That is what really makes one person more reasonable than another person.

There may always be pocket bastions of ideological beliefs. But hopefully the world as a whole will eventually see them as irrelevant.

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News Item2/12/10 12:09 PM
Rick | Alabama  Find all comments by Rick
The Earth sure has aged fast. In 1961 it was only 50 million yrs. old, now it's over 165 million yrs. old. How did they find out how old the spider was? Simple; the rock they found it in was 165 millionm yrs. old. How did they find out how old the rock was? Simple; the spider they found in it was 165 million yrs. old. Ther'e playing the old Billy Preston song; "We'll go round in circles".
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News Item2/11/10 6:00 PM
Chris Perver | Bangor, N. Ireland  Contact via emailFind all comments by Chris Perver
Excellent. I always wanted to know what a 165 million year old spider looked like. Let's see..... Eight legs, an abnormal amount of eyes, big hairy body... Yup, it's a spider. Always has been a spider, always will be.
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News Item2/11/10 10:43 AM
Cliff Leckey. | N. Ireland.  Find all comments by Cliff Leckey.
The BBC would have announced this yarn only they are up to their necks in Man Made global warming....snow.
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News Item2/11/10 9:40 AM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
The paleontological community has now been confronted with soft tissues in fossils, something creationists have been ridiculed for claiming before: T Rex bones yield soft tissues

Organic molecules should not last over 100K years, so either this theory is manifestly false, the organic molecules really are lithified despite all appearances, or else fossil dating methods are ridiculously flawed.

All scientific claims (whether about the past or present), stumble over basic formal logic; esp. induction & affirming the consequent. But one has to accept the primacy of logic, something many Christians seem uncomfortable with.

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News Item2/11/10 8:57 AM
Wee Al | Northern Ireland  Find all comments by Wee Al
So we can take it a spider has always been a spider then?
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