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FRONT PAGE  |  9/2/2015
MONDAY, NOV 30, 2009  |  10 comments
Boy in Bible bee focuses on God
For 10-year-old Caleb Toth, competing in the recent National Bible Bee wasn’t about winning.

It was about taking every opportunity to praise God, the fifth-grader explained.

“It was only by God’s grace and His providence that I got to compete,” said Caleb. “It was hard. But I expected it to be hard. I’m just thankful I got to go and be part of it and encourage someone else.”


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News Item4/25/14 11:41 AM
Win or Lose-Praise Him | Ohio  Find all comments by Win or Lose-Praise Him
Forgive me once again for my intrusion, sirs. For many of us who compete in this National Bible Bee, the money is not the goal, but the knowledge of God, His glorification, and fellowship with like-minded believers.
C.T.
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News Item12/3/09 2:29 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
No, History Records, the answer is "yes," to Errors in the King James Version?. In it's own ways the [A]nglican [V]ersion was no more protected from error than the RSV was.

But, the RSV is better in one way, it was (I'm not talking about the recent revisions of the RSV) in contemporary English. Probably some dislike for the KJV would be muted (no, definitely not all dislike!) if it was put into contemporary English.

I Corinthians 14
9In the same way, unless you speak an intelligible message with your tongue, how will anyone know what is being said? You'll be talking into the air!
11If I don't know the meaning of the language, I will be a foreigner to the speaker and the speaker will be a foreigner to me.---AMERICAN KJV

The non-Christian Anglican Church was not a keeper of God's Word, and while the British can be rightly proud, the AV, as a literary work; it has errors. Part III: From the KJV to the RV (from Elegance to Accuracy).

The only comparisons that can be made are between versions of the Bible in contemporary English, including those of the AV in contemporary English.

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News Item12/2/09 3:43 PM
History Records  Find all comments by History Records
Jim Lincoln wrote:
Was the translation process from original languages into English of 1611 A.D. protected from error by direct inspiration of the Holy Spirit?
"KJV only" advocates say yes!
The King James Version of the Bible was ACCEPTED AND USED by God the Holy Spirit as His Sword, for centuries LONG before the Westcott and Hort (heretics of the 19th century) contributed, NASB arrived.

God the Holy Spirit protected the truth in the inerrant King James Version of the Bible during these centuries.

Modern versions such as the NIV-NASB etc will never repeat this process and certainly do not do so today. The dying church is evidence of that.

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News Item12/2/09 2:14 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Oh, ErnieG, probably most of the Reformed set rejects [A]nglican [V]ersion, as being the RSV of the 17th century, and use the NASB or as the English group is going to do go to the ESV.

Was the translation process from original languages into English of 1611 A.D. protected from error by direct inspiration of the Holy Spirit?
"KJV only" advocates say yes!
The Facts say NO!

King James Version (KJV)

ONLY???

Irrefutable proof the translators were not inspired

Introductory notes

69 Questions for "KJV only" advocates

1611 marginal notes devastating!!!

Indisputable, universally recognized errors in the KJV

Inconsistency in translation

A Good Translation, But Nothing More

Egyptian Corruption Argument refuted

Historical bloodline of "KJV only" false teachers

Archaic Language of the KJV: 419 examples!

The Original translators Preface to the 1611 Edition

Canada says "NO!" to KJV only

There is no valid argument for having a version of the Bible in contemporary English.

1 Corinthians 14:9
So also you, unless you utter by the tongue speech that is clear, how will it be known what is spoken? For you will be speaking into the air.---NASB

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News Item12/1/09 3:11 PM
ErnieG  Find all comments by ErnieG
Mr Lincoln,

If bothering you is reprimanding you from promoting your counterfeit version, then I make you apology. There are more churches and people that use the KJV on the Sermon Audio website.

You must have "link" and "think" mixed up as it is apparent you do not do the former. Any link you post has no merit as far as I'm concerned coming from someone with your narrow minded and shallow mindset, sir!

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News Item12/1/09 2:04 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Apparently ErnieG, you didn't read the first article that SermonAudio put up on this Bee? You would see that the amount of money put up for the prizes was important to many contestants. I didn't say anything uncomplimentary about this boy, but about the Bible Bee in particular. By the way several good versions of the Bible were used besides the [A]nglican [V]ersion, Why I Do Not Think the King James Bible Is the Best Translation Available Today. More conservative American Christians use the NASB than the AV. Use what Bible you please, but don't bother me with the King James Onlyism cult.
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News Item12/1/09 12:56 PM
ErnieG  Find all comments by ErnieG
Millercl wrote:
Seriously Ernie?
This is a bible bee, not a secular gathering.
It is real good to hear a young boy praising God in such a mature way, but this isn't about the KJV.
Yes, Seriously,Millercl.

You are correct in one sense that the article was not about the KJV, but since Mr. Lincoln quoted something about money which the article wasn't about, was the reason I made my comment regardng the NASB which Mr. Lincoln keeps trying to promote here. And unless you are a moderator, that is just your opinion which I could care less!!!

But thanks for your comments on the little boy. It was very refreshing to read something positive going on in the news today and THAT is what the article was about, NOT about money!!!

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News Item12/1/09 11:36 AM
Millercl | Indianapolis  Contact via emailFind all comments by Millercl
Seriously Ernie?

This is a bible bee, not a secular gathering.

It is real good to hear a young boy praising God in such a mature way, but this isn't about the KJV.

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News Item12/1/09 3:04 AM
ErnieG  Find all comments by ErnieG
Jim Lincoln,

This little boy bravely spoke out publicly and gave the praise to God in the article, and you are quoting from your perverted NASB about money?

This probably shouldn't surprise me because you and your teacher, Gil Rugh are still babes in Christ using and promoting that counterfeit bible. I am very grateful we have a God of patience as well as second chances. Perhps one of these days someone will show you and/or your pastor an omitted or changed scripture that will wake you both up!

Unfortunately, I also wasted a lot of time in the NIV, NASB, NKJV, etc.but a scripture omitted in the first chaper of Revelation convinced me in 1998 to only use the KJV.(I had started with the KJV in 1938 in Omaha when I was 5yrs old and attended a Methodist church on Woolworth Avenue.)

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News Item11/30/09 2:15 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
As I pointed out in the first thread that SermonAudio put up about this Bible bee, there was just too much money involved. With the article attached to that there seemed to be much inspiration by greed as by God.

1 Timothy 6
10 For the love of money is a root of all sorts of evil, and some by longing for it have wandered away from the faith, and pierced themselves with many a pang.
11 But flee from these things, you man of God; and pursue righteousness, godliness, faith, love, perseverance and gentleness.---NASB

I hope the child mentioned in this article stays with the idea of learning the Bible for the love of God and not money.

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