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Choice News SUNDAY, MAY 24, 2009  |  25 comments
Church of Scotland abandons Bible - allows gay pastor
LONDON - The Church of Scotland has approved the appointment of an openly homosexual minister - the latest case of tensions over sexuality to prompt division in the Anglican Communion.

The church's ruling body voted Saturday by 326 to 267 to support the appointment of the Rev. Scott Rennie, 37, who was previously married to a woman and is now in a relationship with a man.

Rennie was first appointed as a minister 10 years ago, but has faced opposition from some critics since he moved to a church in Aberdeen, Scotland, last year. ...


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News Item7/12/09 4:21 PM
Joelly | Northern Ireland  Find all comments by Joelly
RtG wrote:
16 "Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour."
"God takes care of HIS Church" is - false witness???
The Church of Scotlands first error was to ditch the Bible, otherwise they wouldn't be in the mess they are in. To accompany the Kirk's mess the nation has followed on in Liberal attitude to God and Scripture. After all why should those outside the church believe in a Book which the so called "church" no longer accepts as the Word and Law of God.
Ro 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
Amen brother. Keep up the good work.
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News Item6/10/09 7:14 PM
Guinness  Find all comments by Guinness
RtG - you will imagine whatever you wish.
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News Item6/10/09 5:10 PM
RtG  Find all comments by RtG
Guinness wrote:
No.
I believe you have a problem in the perception of the full effect of iniquity upon the church and the nation.
Liberalism is an indicator of deeper problems stretching back to the rejection of the Bible. Having worked in the Kirk some time ago, I have followed their decline with sadness but without surprise!
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News Item6/10/09 4:15 PM
Guinness  Find all comments by Guinness
RtG wrote:
"God takes care of HIS Church" is - false witness???
No.

Q144: What are the duties required in the ninth commandment?
A144: The duties required in the ninth commandment are, the preserving and promoting of truth between man and man, and the good name of our neighbour, as well as our own; appearing and standing for the truth; and from the heart, sincerely, freely, clearly, and fully, speaking the truth, and only the truth, in matters of judgment and justice, and in all other things whatsoever; a charitable esteem of our neighbors; loving, desiring, and rejoicing in their good name; sorrowing for, and covering of their infirmities; freely acknowledging of their gifts and graces, defending their innocence; a ready receiving of a good report, and unwillingness to admit of an evil report, concerning them; discouraging talebearers, flatterers, and slanderers; love and care of our own good name, and defending it when need requireth; keeping of lawful promises; studying and practicing of whatsoever things are true, honest, lovely, and of good report.

Rather ironic given that at the same time you are cross posting under a different alias arguments contrary to the Word of God.

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News Item6/10/09 3:56 PM
RtG  Find all comments by RtG
Guinness wrote:
God does take care of HIS church in all providence and mercy.
HE does not guarantee that the value of their shares or other investments can never go down.
Please also note again what I said below:-
"there are so many valid and biblical reasons to criticise apostate liberals subverting the church".
What is the 9th commandment?
16 "Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour."

"God takes care of HIS Church" is - false witness???

The Church of Scotlands first error was to ditch the Bible, otherwise they wouldn't be in the mess they are in. To accompany the Kirk's mess the nation has followed on in Liberal attitude to God and Scripture. After all why should those outside the church believe in a Book which the so called "church" no longer accepts as the Word and Law of God.

Ro 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

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News Item6/10/09 12:54 PM
Guinness  Find all comments by Guinness
RtG wrote:
????
God takes care of *HIS* Church in all providence and mercy. If you are asking to compare the True Church with the Liberal heretics then I'm surprised YOU can't see it.......Unless you are.......???
God does take care of HIS church in all providence and mercy.
HE does not guarantee that the value of their shares or other investments can never go down.

Please also note again what I said below:-
"there are so many valid and biblical reasons to criticise apostate liberals subverting the church".

What is the 9th commandment?

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News Item6/10/09 10:35 AM
RtG  Find all comments by RtG
Guinness wrote:
Do please show us the Bible Believers with a balanced portfolio of investments that have not suffered a proportionate loss in value of their investments.
When there are so many valid and biblical reasons to criticise apostate liberals subverting the church why use invalid arguments and arty gas?
????

God takes care of *HIS* Church in all providence and mercy. If you are asking to compare the True Church with the Liberal heretics then I'm surprised YOU can't see it.......Unless you are.......???

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News Item6/5/09 6:01 PM
Guinness  Find all comments by Guinness
RtG wrote:
This is what happens to those who abandon the Bible.
""The credit crunch has led to a crash in the value of Church of Scotland investments by more than £89m in the space of one year.
Such is the looming financial crisis facing the Kirk that as well as cutting ministers stipends or the number of minsters, it is considering abandoning parishes altogether."" (The Herald)
Or is it that the alternative god mammon isn't quite so understanding???
Do please show us the Bible Believers with a balanced portfolio of investments that have not suffered a proportionate loss in value of their investments.

When there are so many valid and biblical reasons to criticise apostate liberals subverting the church why use invalid arguments and arty gas?

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News Item6/5/09 4:18 PM
RtG  Find all comments by RtG
This is what happens to those who abandon the Bible.

""The credit crunch has led to a crash in the value of Church of Scotland investments by more than £89m in the space of one year.
Such is the looming financial crisis facing the Kirk that as well as cutting ministers stipends or the number of minsters, it is considering abandoning parishes altogether."" (The Herald)

Or is it that the alternative god mammon isn't quite so understanding???

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News Item6/2/09 3:55 PM
Scholium | Scotland  Find all comments by Scholium
Elder in CoS wrote:
I'm an Elder in a kirk where our minister voted for this disgusting thing. He has brought such shame to our church and the CoS is really in serious trouble. Can all Christians pray for us that the Church be rescued from Satan and his followers?
The problem in the Kirk is the same as that of the C of E - the Satanic religion of Liberalism. (Rom 1:18-32 refers) This is the religion which destroys Bible believing churches and as in society it is anarchy from GOD's authority and all authority. Look at the Government, Judiciary, education - all our institutions are being destroyed by the evil Liberal disease. Not to mention the institution of marriage, where normal people bring up their kids. Even the normal role of women wife, mother and help meet (Gen 2:18 and 3:16).

The disruption of 1843, the Reformation of 16th century and the pharisees in Jesus time all saw moves ordained by God to reject the erroneous teachings of church and people.

As an elder you are part of the Kirk witness which is no longer a Bible believing or obeying organisation.

You know what you must now do!

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News Item6/2/09 11:38 AM
The broken buggle  Find all comments by The broken buggle
Elder in CoS wrote:
I'm an Elder in a kirk where our minister voted for this disgusting thing.
Firstly if your minister voted for such a thing then those who are true evangelicals should separate from apostasy asap even if that true evangelical is only YOU.

How long halt ye between two opinions?

see #apostasy of Church of Scotland#
A question for the Church of Scotland

Rev Hughes

Secondly check out a denomination in Scotland-the Free Church of Scotland Continuing and look at its history.
Here

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News Item6/2/09 11:03 AM
Elder in CoS  Find all comments by Elder in CoS
I'm an Elder in a kirk where our minister voted for this disgusting thing. He has brought such shame to our church and the CoS is really in serious trouble. Can all Christians pray for us that the Church be rescued from Satan and his followers?
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News Item6/1/09 8:15 AM
A Scotsman | Glasgow  Find all comments by A Scotsman
The Church of Scotland is not part of the Anglican Communion; it is Presbyterian, not Episcopalian. Just thought I would point out that inaccuracy from the first paragraph of the article.
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News Item5/26/09 5:28 AM
Scottishwifie | Scotland  Find all comments by Scottishwifie
What great sadness I feel, that the Church of Scotland,that once stood up for the Bible has abandoned God's word to follow mans will.
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News Item5/25/09 3:43 PM
Nathan | Australia  Find all comments by Nathan
I don't see the election of gay minister the problem, it is merely the fruit of a deeper rooted rot, namely how did the Church of Scotland wind up electing 326 apostate ministers?

Do we all see what God is doing. Isn't He putting all godly and righteous people into a position of leaving "church" whatever the denomination.

Righteousness is becoming an outcast, and I am proud follow her.

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News Item5/25/09 3:36 PM
oatcake  Find all comments by oatcake
Looks like the Kirk has chickened out for the time being.

"The Church of Scotland has avoided a potentially damaging debate about whether gay people should be allowed to become Kirk ministers.
At its General Assembly in Edinburgh, it was decided instead a special commission should be set up to consider the matter and report in two years.
There will be a consultation among congregations across Scotland"
BBC News

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News Item5/25/09 12:07 PM
KK | USA  Find all comments by KK
I'm sure my ancesrors are turning in their graves over this damnable tergiversation !!! ...

"IN" Christ, KK

KK

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News Item5/25/09 9:58 AM
oatcake  Find all comments by oatcake
Battles not over yet.

"THE divide in the Church of Scotland deepened last night, after traditionalists said the vote allowing the appointment of openly gay minister Scott Rennie had brought "great shame" on the Kirk.
However, conservative opponents of Mr Rennie refused to concede defeat and said there was still a chance to prevent him being appointed"
(Scotsman Newspaper)

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News Item5/25/09 9:37 AM
Frank Dombrosky | Texas  Find all comments by Frank Dombrosky
If there is no repentance by the Church of Scotland for this evil, every Bible-believing member should leave it. I would not stay with ANY church or denomination that rejects God's Word in any form or fashion. We belong to the Lord, not to some religious system.
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News Item5/24/09 4:15 PM
Raymond | N Ireland, United Kingdom  Contact via emailFind all comments by Raymond
This is clearly outright Apostasy and the Biblical command of separation must be adhered to. There is thankfully a remnant remaining within Scotland and the UK. Pray for us as we Contend for the faith in Society - it is not easy. Romans 1 v 16 Psalm 118 v 8
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