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TUESDAY, MAY 19, 2009  |  7 comments
White Lies Can Be OK?
Admit it: You've lied. You told a friend that his shirt looked stylish when you actually thought it was tacky and garish. Or maybe you said to your boss that her presentations were fascinating when in fact they were insipidly mindless. Or perhaps you told your landlord that the rent check was in the mail.

Don't feel bad. You're in good, dishonest company. A growing body of research shows that people lie constantly, that deception is pervasive in everyday life. One study found that people tell two to three lies every 10 minutes, and even conservative estimates indicate that we lie at least once a day. Such incessant prevarication might be a necessary social evil, and researchers have recently discovered that some fibbing might actually be good for you. "We use lies to grease the wheels of social discourse," says University of Massachusetts psychologist Robert Feldman. "It's socially useful to tell ...


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News Item5/20/09 10:19 AM
Bob Vincent | Alexandria, Louisiana  Protected NameContact via emailFind all comments by Bob Vincent
1. The Bible clearly condemns lying.

2. The Bible never commands us to lie.

2.1. While the Bible condemns killing, it also commands killing in certain circumstances.

2.2. There are no such commands with regard to lying.

3. The Bible never commends lying. The Bible does commend people who have lied, but never explicitly for their lying.

4. The Bible commands and commends the use of military stratagems.

5. God has ordained whatsoever comes to pass.

5.1. God has ordained everything in history, including all manner of human barbarity.

5.2. In the sovereignty of God, he has given people over to all kinds of evil, using various means, natural and supernatural to accomplish his ends.

5.3. God has not only given people over to lying, he is also ultimately the one who has judged the West through the dreadful outpouring of sexual perversion that we now witness.

6. Are we forbidden to lie to people whom we judge not to be our neighbors?

7. Rather than planning to sin in response to hypothetical situations, we are commanded to trust our sovereign God who will never allow us to be tempted beyond our ability to withstand it.

Here is the biblical basis for these statements:

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News Item5/19/09 7:55 PM
San Jose John | San Jose, CA  Find all comments by San Jose John
Scott McMahan wrote:
Anyhow, the bottom line is, if someone will lie about the small things, they'll lie about the big things, too.
Reminds me of Luke 16:10
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News Item5/19/09 2:55 PM
Scott McMahan | Internet  Contact via emailFind all comments by Scott McMahan
State-run education has a built-in conflict of interest with state-sponsored gambling, which funds schools. Why would they teach students economics, statistics, or common sense when their very existence would dry up if people saw gambling for what it was?

Anyhow, the bottom line is, if someone will lie about the small things, they'll lie about the big things, too.

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News Item5/19/09 2:12 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
"We're All Lying Liars: Why People Tell Lies, and Why White Lies Can Be OK"

If we are all lying liars, perhaps we should consider that the author who wrote "We Are All Lying Liars" is lying, therefore we are not all lying liars.

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News Item5/19/09 2:03 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Quite right, S.J. John! If people are going to become politicians they should also have to take ethic courses when they go to college or a remedial course when they go to college.
A sermon about one ancient "politician"

Gil Rugh said or, wrote:
....
1. We must be careful of idle time.
2. We must guard against the pattern of sin.
3. Covering one sin leads to another.
4. Sin brings ruin and death.
5. Sin makes us hard and selfish.
6. Sin is always committed before the eyes of the Lord
Seeing, Savoring & Succumbing to Sin
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News Item5/19/09 1:31 PM
San Jose John | San Jose, CA  Find all comments by San Jose John
Some form of critical thinking AND economics education should be made MANDITORY for ALL high school students, or even junior high school students.

Students should be taught HOW to think, rather than WHAT to think (or what their teacher think they should think).

Neil, you're blessed.

I didn't even know what a fallacy was until I was 26 years old, when I (thankfully) selected "Critical Thinking" from a list of GE classes I needed to get my 2-year AA degree.

It would've been so nice to have been better equipped to evaluate the world around me at an earlier age. I KNOW I would've gone much farther in life had I been so trained.

Lie-less "society" "grind to a halt"? Only those parts of current society that are reliant upon lying, I guess. (depending on one's definition of "society"?)

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News Item5/19/09 1:17 PM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
Perhaps illogical reasoning serves a useful social purpose, too!

"researchers found that college students who exaggerated their GPA in interviews later showed improvement in their grades." - post hoc, ergo propter hoc fallacy. And this has no bearing on the morality of lying.

"Positive biases about the self can be beneficial" - depends upon one's definition of "beneficial," which in this case, seems to be material gain or good feeling. Watch out for such unstated premises in articles like this.

"But you can't stop lies entirely. Society would grind to a halt" - an unsubstantiated assertion. And I would like to see anyone try to verify it.

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