The acting chief financial officer of Freddie Mac was found dead in his home Wednesday morning of an apparent suicide, Fairfax, Va., police have confirmed to FOX News.
Kellermann, a 16-year veteran of the mortgage loan guarantor, was discovered by his wife, who found him in the basement.
Fairfax police spokeswoman Mary Anne Jennings said police were called to the Northern Virginia home outside Washington, D.C., in the early morning hours. A call came in at 4:48 a.m. ET.
Kellermann, 41, was named acting chief financial officer in September 2008 and was a member of the company's leadership team reporting directly to CEO David M. Moffett, who resigned last month....
cely wrote: Rejoice NOT when thine enemy falleth, .....I am quite sure we are not to gloat when the wicked die in their sins
You just dont get it cely do you ?
because you have a high opinion of yourself you are blind to the meaning of the text which you have presumably posted apropos my own.
your own vanity in this regard has caused you to stumble
observe: Rejoice NOT when thine enemy falleth
(sanctimonius upper case is yours )
That reads YOUR enemy - ok ? Your enemy (worm) is NOT neccessarily Gods enemy.
Because you are a believer does not mean that God is obliged or even inclined to take up your case, He is no respecter of persons.
It is legitamate and biblical to rejoice in Gods judgements if we can discern Gods providence in events. Simple tests can be applied - try the ten commandments for one
ergo
''hooray and amen ! - kellerman is dead and in hell - God is glorified, he has avenged himself upon the unrighteous''
is a simple correct and obvious theological statement, Kellerman a stranger to me is not MY enemy he is GODS enemy and God has dealt with him
there is a difference between rejoicing and gloating. Gloating is not a fruit of the spirit (accuser)
Candle Lit wrote: We are what we are because of His goodness and mercy and grace in our lives. This life isn't about being happy. It is about the Lord calling out a people for Himself, the Redeemed, to Glorify Himself throughout all eternity.
So true sister absolutely thankyou for the encouragement i shall look for you and your family at the wedding feast if i dont make it to the creation museum in kentucky and a visit to your good selves beforehand - goodnight !
prince charles wrote: thanx candlelit, ive had a hard and futile life,
Is that where all that wit and humor comes from? You are such a blessing to me.
We are what we are because of His goodness and mercy and grace in our lives. This life isn't about being happy. It is about the Lord calling out a people for Himself, the Redeemed, to Glorify Himself throughout all eternity. We don't even begin to know all that He has planned for us. The sifting is NOW, revelation is YET to be. How wonderful to know that "eye has not seen, nor ear heard, nor the heart conceived all that that the Lord has planned for those who love Him."
Candle Lit wrote: Charles, I am glad that you are a regular poster. You contribute a lot to these boards.
thanx candlelit, ive had a hard and futile life, i dont rejoice when God judges His enemies but i definitely dont feel sorry for them or their families, God is not going to judge me, nor is Jesus, but the words in the Bible are, I have been warned, we have all been warned, we will judged by the words of the bible. I dont look forward to that. Some folk want to extend meaningless sympathy to the relatives of the deceased, they dont understand that its a dire warning.
The day is coming soon for all of us when all things will be revealed and nothing will be concealed, dying time is truth time and nothing here on earth will be of the slightest use then so why cleave to the earthly values ?
The things unseen are eternal but the heavans and the earth will pass away what a disaster for billions of people
I dont gloat on Gods judgements that is dangerous territory, but i dont dispute them either.
He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me." (Matthew 10:37)
Its true, I evangelise my family i pray for the best but its not my pergotive
This is the link to part 1 of the Keith Green story that I mentioned to you today. From here, you should be able to access the other 6 parts. I highly recommend viewing. It made me feel as though my life has been so small by comparison, but my desires have been the same as his. . .ours lives are what God has given us and for His purposes, small or great.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6hOyx8LF4I
I am glad that you are a regular poster. You contribute a lot to these boards.
Candle Lit wrote: Help. . someone has abducted the real Prince Charles and stolen his moniker.
well i would admit that i am recovering candleit but i dont believe i am saying anything other than my usual crusty posts - i dont think that there is sufficient evidence for you to suppose i have been kidnapped !
i think i am consistent and i am only quoting the relevant Bible verses ?
you can check my posts
we all have friends and relatives that dont believe and the reason they dont believe is because 'men through unrighteousness suppress the knowlege of God' we believe because Jesus has chosen to reveal Himself to us, for which I am very grateful, I am not going to ask why he should choose me and pass by others or criticise Him for doing so I am sure there is a good reason
i had a massive row with an important relative a little over a year ago because they wouldnt stop cursing God in my house and when i asked them to stop they said they werent and called me a liar !
I have a new family now, I have been adopted by God Himself, I have changed sides in the futile war against God I am no longer part of that rebellion and I am grateful for it.
The natural man is Gods enemy i strive to be counted worthy to be spared
cely wrote: Rejoice NOT when thine enemy falleth, and let not thine heart be glad when he stumbleth, lest the Lord see it and it displease Him, and He turn away His wrath from him Proverbs 24:17,18 I am quite sure we are not to gloat when the wicked die in their sins
Excellent post! I was influenced by these verses from the Psalms:
They rewarded me evil for good to the spoiling of my soul. But as for me, when they were sick, my clothing was sackcloth: I humbled my soul with fasting; and my prayer returned into mine own bosom. I behaved myself as though he had been my friend or brother: I bowed down heavily, as one that mourneth for his mother. But in mine adversity they rejoiced, and gathered themselves together: yea, the abjects gathered themselves together against me, and I knew it not; they did tear me, and ceased not: Psalms 35:12-15 KJV
John UK wrote: I know exactly what you mean about finding your way round a particular Bible. My first one I coloured in with different colours for different topics, so I could find info quickly. Trouble was, the whole Bible soon got covered, and I got used to knowing where certain verses were. I stopped doing that since, to force my memory to remember the verses and know where they are. But the memory ails!
And, I know what you mean, John. Years ago, I felt handicapped if I didn't have MY Bible. My attitude changed when we had missionaries staying with us, and the wife asked for a Bible. I asked what version, and she said that it didn't matter. She used the one that I gave her, and quickly found the particular verse she was looking for. I was impressed with her efficiency, and wanted to be able to do the same, though I haven't mastered it. And, as you say, the memory ails!
Candle Lit wrote: Yes, I am beginning to use my KJV more since I began reading the SA forums. There are some real differences in the meaning of some verses. It's hard to stop reading my NASB that I've had since 1976. Early in my Christian walk, I was in the Navigators, a ministry that required Scripture memory, chapter and verse. It was the chapter and verse that I didn't do so well on, but I could remember which side of the page and how far down. I see that I cannot rely on memory alone when quoting Scripture. I need to check my Bible. Good to chat with you.
I know exactly what you mean about finding your way round a particular Bible. My first one I coloured in with different colours for different topics, so I could find info quickly. Trouble was, the whole Bible soon got covered, and I got used to knowing where certain verses were. I stopped doing that since, to force my memory to remember the verses and know where they are. But the memory ails!
Rejoice NOT when thine enemy falleth, and let not thine heart be glad when he stumbleth, lest the Lord see it and it displease Him, and He turn away His wrath from him
Proverbs 24:17,18
I am quite sure we are not to gloat when the wicked die in their sins
Candle Lit wrote: He went to sleep last night a man self-described as one whom a "lesser man would have broken under the pressures of his day, but whose pedigree, blood, breeding allowed him to maintain a sanguine demeanor" - loose translation. Please return the real Prince Charles. Impostor!
Yes, good post, agree with most. In context, "longsuffering" could also relate to those mentioned in the previous verses. As I say, I am not sure about the position I hold on this. Logic may dictate that God is longsuffering only to his people, therefore it relates to them only, but there are plenty of other verses in the Bible which show that God is longsuffering even to those who rebel and are eventually lost.
Candle Lit wrote: So, there is no rejoicing when these unredeemed (wicked) die. I can extend that to any who die in a lost condition.
It depresses me that men reject the Gospel especially when I think about what God has done to reveal himself to them on the other hand Im not the standard, i like most people i meet because like them i am wicked but God has a different view based upon the ten commandments and this tells a different story.
There is no good reason to reject the gospel 'them that believe not are damned already' (jesus said )
deuteronomy 32 Is not this laid up in store with me, and sealed up among my treasures? To me belongeth vengeance and recompence; their foot shall slide in due time: for the day of their calamity is at hand, and the things that shall come upon them make haste.
CLT :''No - Jesus DID NOT CAUSE the man to commit suicide. The sovereignty of God does not mean that he causes one to sin.''
PAUL And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, (freddie mac ) God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient (suicide) Romans 1:28
Thats exactly what it DOES mean
'All things have been entrusted to me by my Father.' Luke 10 22
John UK wrote: I'm trying to keep up with modern talky, and I thought OTT meant "over the top" or excessive. Gill might be right, but I don't think so. Always open to learn, though, if someone can prove otherwise.
Of course, OTT - over the top - I figured it out as I was driving.
Yes, I am beginning to use my KJV more since I began reading the SA forums. There are some real differences in the meaning of some verses. It's hard to stop reading my NASB that I've had since 1976.
Early in my Christian walk, I was in the Navigators, a ministry that required Scripture memory, chapter and verse. It was the chapter and verse that I didn't do so well on, but I could remember which side of the page and how far down. I see that I cannot rely on memory alone when quoting Scripture. I need to check my Bible.
John UK wrote: The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. 2 Peter 3:9 KJV John Gill (hyperman) reckons that because of the expression "us-ward" i.e. towards us elect, Peter is saying that God is not willing that any of his elect should perish. I reckon that's OTT
Considering Peter introduces the chapter thus..... "1 This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in both which I stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance: 2 That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour:"
I "suspect" we can assume he is directing his teaching to a specific audience. Did God write the Bible for the elect? - or for the non-elect? When the Holy Spirit does the task of "guiding" us into all truth - is it for those who are elected - or not? Therefore if the Truth shall make **US** free are we poor sinners to increase the range of this work?
"Usward" is the group who Peter is teaching and whom God is longsuffering with, - Not a vague desperate hope that "anybody" might be listening!
DJC49 wrote: There's NOTHING whatsoever "OTT" nor Hyper-Calvinistic about John Gill's *correct* exegesis of "us-ward" as referring to the elect. But, then again, that false accusation is coming from a "Hyper-Squeamish Calvinist."
Quite agree with you DJ, but I wasn't saying that. I will put my own beliefs in brackets (which actually tallies with Gill) and leave what John Gill believed about the text as a whole.
John Gill (hyperman) reckons that because of the expression "us-ward" [i.e. towards us elect], Peter is saying that God is not willing that any of his elect should perish. I reckon that's OTT, but anyway,...
Of course, if anyone doesn't agree with Gill's understanding of the text, then there immediately becomes a seeming paradox because of conflict with other texts and conflict with God's purposes.
Personally, I don't object to any seeming paradox. But if Gill had it right, I would be quite content to hold that belief.
How's this for some faculties: seeing, hearing, thinking, knowing, deciding, reasoning, breathing, eating, drinking, converting (food into energy), wasting, humour, sadness.
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