The National Association of Evangelicals (NAE) is wading very gingerly into the issue of immigration reform.
Immigration has long been an awkward issue for evangelicals. Most of the nation's large, politically influential evangelical organizations have either supported legislation that focuses on border enforcement and deporting illegal immigrants or have taken no position on the issue. But smaller white church groups and Hispanic evangelicals have supported what they consider more compassionate treatment of illegal immigrants, including a path to citizenship and streamlined procedures for reuniting separated families.
So far, the NAE, whose members encompass 52 denominations, hasn't taken a position on the issue because its members have been divided on how to deal with it. But they won't be much longer....
Candle Lit wrote: In today's local paper there was a full page ad, commemorating the death of Jesus on the cross. Against a graphic of a cross and 3 nails, a piece of parchment, read, "Son I need you to build a bridge; here are all the tools you will need. See you soon - Dad"
Don't you find the irreverence offensive? . A quote from The Message, 1 Peter 3:18 . Compare KJV:
YES Candle Lit, I DO FIND THE IRREVERENCE OFFENSIVE -- BUT THIS FOLLY IS TO BE EXPECTED FROM BLINDED HEARTS ISN'T IT ???
Regarding "The Message Bible" and the multitude of other watered down texts floating around --- they're nothing but TROUBLE !!!
If I were to undertake the daunting task of EXPOUNDING UPON "GOD'S WORD" -- WHICH I WON'T -- IT WOULD BE AN EXPANDED VERSION THAT WOULD BLOW THE MINDS OF ALL THESE parasitical water boys THAT HAVE INFESTED PULPITS THROUGHOUT AMERICA.
There is a famine for the "HEARING" OF GOD'S WORD --- FURTHERMORE THERE’S A GREAT SHORTAGE OF “REAL TRUTH†BEING OFFERED TO THE HEARERS !!!
THE TRUTH IS THIS --- WE HAVE AN ITCHING EAR PROBLEM AND FAR TOO MANY WHO ARE WILLING TO CATER TO THEM !!!
THIS IS A PERVERSE PEOPLE WHO ARE UNWILLING TO ENDURE SOUND DOCTRINE !!!
TiA, while Wikipedia is often accurate, in that article they understate Jefferson's poor financial judgment. When he had the freedom to be responsible, it appears he was not, for he had expensive taste: Jefferson Encyclopedia - Debt
But regardless of the extent of Jefferson's culpability for his problems, the macroeconomic wisdom of a bankrupt man is no more credible than the marital advice of a divorcee.
Of course it is important (I would not say imperative) to understand what Scripture says about finance. But I see no Scriptural rationale to denouncing moneylending for the purpose of trade, though it certainly can be abused, & Christians should never make interest-bearing loans to brothers in need.
It is the Roman Catholic Church that has most distorted Christian thinking on economics, having borrowed Aristotle's fallacies by way of Thomas Aquinas.
Josh Z wrote: This is the same National Association of Evangelicals that gave the world the likes of Ted Haggard
Exactly. I do not call myself an 'evangelical' for this (and other) reasons. I am a Christian.
This group (and other so-called parachurch organizations) does not speak for me; and more importantly, I think we can safely say they do not speak for the Lord, except when they simply quote the Bible.
[AUTHOR]Neil[/AUTHOR]"Banking Cartel is the Cause of Humanity's Woes" False. Sin is the cause of humanity's woes![/QUOTE]Neil, I agree - "Sin is the Cause of humanity's woes !" I posted the title of an article from www.henrymakow.com/ A better title for the article may have been "Banking Cartel Is at the Root of Humanity's Woes."
Monetary issues are a frequent subject of the Holy Bible ie: usury, fairness, the money changers in the temple. It is imperative that Christian men and women attempt to understand monetary issues of our time.
"Jefferson's trouble began when his father-in-law died, and he and his brothers-in-law quickly divided the estate before its debts were settled. It made each of them liable for the whole amount due – which turned out to be more than they expected . . ."
A new book, "Web of Debt," unravels the deceptions of our monetary system. The creation of money has been "privatized," or taken over by a private money cartel.
From an intresting article posted on WebOfDebt.Com - "The Tequila Trap: the Real Story Behind the Illegal Alien Invasion."
-- The waves of immigrants, now pouring over the Mexican border into the United States in search of work, are refugees from an economic war that has deprived them of their own property and forced them into debt bondage to a private global banking cartel . . .
Today, America stands at 292 million and grows by 3.3 million per year. In 47 years at mid-century, America will add 200 million which will average four million people per state.
An average of 8,200 people are added to our country every day via annual net gains in US births at 1.0 million and immigration at 2.3 million--legal, illegal and their births.
Soon past the mid-century, those 200 million more Americans will be struggling for dwindling resources, water, food and a diminishing quality of life.
Fifty year go, Bangladesh, India and China ignored their accelerating populations. Their problems are so gargantuan, they can't solve them and simply suffer. Today, America's leaders are following the same steps.
KK wrote: Do any of you "SEE" the correlation between the way men today are watering down GOD'S WORD ( they don't like to teach THE WHOLE COUNSEL OF GOD'S WORD so they change IT to suite their own liking and to better cater to the hordes of ITCHING EARS -- all because they don't want to offend anyone) ......
Well, I have to give it to you for conviction and passion, KK. You definitely are sounding the alarm.
In today's local paper there was a full page ad, commemorating the death of Jesus on the cross. Against a graphic of a cross and 3 nails, a piece of parchment, read, "Son I need you to build a bridge; here are all the tools you will need. See you soon - Dad"
Don't you find the irreverence offensive?
A quote from The Message, 1 Peter 3:18 read, "That's what Christ did definitively; suffered because of others' sins, the Righteous One for the unrighteous ones. He went through it all, was put to death and then made alive to bring us to God."
Compare KJV: "For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:" 1 Peter 3:18
Man oh man, there's nothing like a bunch of people who are willing to give away the farm ------ further burdening "Our" already failing system with more weight "We" CANNOT BEAR !!!
"We" CANNOT ignore "Our" borders allowing these people to invade America without going through the PROPER CHANNELS --- "We" HAVE A FRONT DOOR, BUT "they" CHOSE TO BREAK IN A BACK WINDOW !!!
F Y I --- "We" HAVE LAWS THAT HAVE BEEN PUT IN PLACE FOR A REASON -- AND THAT REASON IS TO PROTECT AMERICA/AMERICANS FROM BEING OVERRUN AND TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF BY THOSE WHO DO NOT RESPECT "Our" LAWS !!!
Do any of you "SEE" the correlation between the way men today are watering down GOD'S WORD ( they don't like to teach THE WHOLE COUNSEL OF GOD'S WORD so they change IT to suite their own liking and to better cater to the hordes of ITCHING EARS -- all because they don't want to offend anyone) ...... and in like manner "We" have laws IN PLACE that these foolish individuals "We" have elected, "Our" SUPPOSED Guards at the Gate, don't want to ENFORCE !!! -- AS USUAL "Our" ELECTED "SeRvAnTs" WON'T DO RIGHT BY "Us" ...
HAVEN'T "We" HAD …… E N O U G H …… OF ALL THIS MISH MASH, HAREBRAINED, HALF-WIT TOMFOOLERY ???
Immigration has been natural in mankind ever since he rowed and sailed boats. The real problem today is how the nation absorbs them into the community. People who come to a country should be expected to abide by ALL the rules, else they are criminals and subject to the laws accordingly. Thus creating the immigration policy and practice, which monitors and controls until accepted, should be instituted and prosecuted in line with all the nations legal and social requirements. The protection of the prevailing way of life must be borne in mind and agreed to by those who seek to live here.
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