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Choice News SUNDAY, APR 5, 2009  |  28 comments
The End of Christian America?
It was a small detail, a point of comparison buried in the fifth paragraph on the 17th page of a 24-page summary of the 2009 American Religious Identification Survey. But as R. Albert Mohler Jr.—president of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, one of the largest on earth—read over the document after its release in March, he was struck by a single sentence. For a believer like Mohler—a starched, unflinchingly conservative Christian, steeped in the theology of his particular province of the faith, devoted to producing ministers who will preach the inerrancy of the Bible and the Gospel of Jesus Christ as the only means to eternal life—the central news of the survey was troubling enough: the number of Americans who claim no religious affiliation has nearly doubled since 1990, rising from 8 to 15 percent. Then came the point he could not get out of his mind: while the unaffiliated have historically ...

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News Item4/15/09 12:11 PM
Tony Lopez-Cisneros  Find all comments by Tony Lopez-Cisneros
Faithful Remnant wrote:
I think it is more correct to talk about Christian Americans or American Christians.
Amen, Faithful Remnant !

It's The End of Historic Authorized Biblical-Literalist Judeo-Christians in America, or American Historic Authorized Biblical-Literalist Judeo-Christians, that Must Be Avoided At ALL Costs--Even, By The Grace Of Almighty GOD, Up To The Shedding Of The Blood Of The True Saints of Almighty GOD By Martyrdom !

Not That I Myself Would EVER Desire That The Blood Of True Historic Judeo-Christian Saints Should Be Shed !

But, That Is What The Satanic-Vaticanist/Roman-"Catholic"-Cultic "Jesuits" Want To Do To EVERY True Saint Of Almighty GOD & The LORD Jesus Christ Here In The U.S.A. !

This is part of Their "Religious" Devil-Demon Spirit POSSESSION By & Through SATAN Himself ala His "JESUITS" via "The Mother 'CHURCH' of Harlots & Abominations of The Earth":

"And I saw The WOMAN Drunken with The Blood of The Saints, and with The Blood of The Martyrs of JESUS...

And The WOMAN which thou sawest IS That GREAT City (ROME), Which Reigneth Over The Kings Of The Earth...

COME OUT OF HER, MY PEOPLE...

IN HER [IS] FOUND THE BLOOD OF PROPHETS...SAINTS...ALL THAT [ARE] SLAIN UPON THE EARTH." REVELATION 17:6,18-18:4,18 !

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News Item4/13/09 8:06 PM
Faithful Remnant  Find all comments by Faithful Remnant
I think it is more correct to talk about Christian Americans or American Christians.
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News Item4/13/09 7:47 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
extra wrote:
Christian America???
When did this exist???
"In the spring of 1778, the Constitutional Convention was held in Philadelphia, PA. They resolved three main religious controversies. They:
Decided that there would be no religious test, oath or other requirement for any federal elected office
Allowed Quakers and others to affirm (rather than swear) their oaths of office
Refrained from recognizing the religion of Christianity, or one of its denominations, as an established, state church.
But there was no specific guarantee of religious freedom."
Thus all religions and none welcomed???
There was no Constitutional Convention in 1778.

The specific guarantee of religious freedom came about via the Bill of Rights ratified in 1791.

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News Item4/13/09 4:51 PM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
To answer Elkin's question: in recent times at least, probably Theonomists like Rousas Rushdoony & Gary deMar, & "conservative" Catholics like WFB.

As "Faithful Remnant" suggested below, the term "Christian Nation" can be understood in various ways - is it demographic? Or does it refer to what the Founders supposedly believed, or merely the federal republican structure of the gov't (as Presbys often claim)? Each of these views is disputable.

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News Item4/13/09 4:20 PM
Elkin M. Kaufman | Walker, La.  Protected NameFind all comments by Elkin M. Kaufman
What ever gave us the idea that America was a Christian Nation? Several of the founders were Unitarians and Thomas Paine was an avowed athiest.
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News Item4/13/09 2:58 PM
extra  Find all comments by extra
Christian America???
When did this exist???

"In the spring of 1778, the Constitutional Convention was held in Philadelphia, PA. They resolved three main religious controversies. They:

Decided that there would be no religious test, oath or other requirement for any federal elected office
Allowed Quakers and others to affirm (rather than swear) their oaths of office
Refrained from recognizing the religion of Christianity, or one of its denominations, as an established, state church.
But there was no specific guarantee of religious freedom."

Thus all religions and none welcomed???

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News Item4/13/09 1:47 PM
RW | Georgia, USA  Find all comments by RW
I agree with Dr. Mohler and thank God for his Christian stand. I compare what he says, and others, with the Scriptures and I am thrilled that he stands strong for Biblical truths and principles. Look in the Old Testament where Israel sinned and God punished them and this happened over and over.
When the church becomes like the world then punishment comes. When we ministered in the Northeast 21 yrs. ago it was terrifying to see the lack of interest in God; then moved back to the Bible belt and saw a form of godliness which was more terrifying.
May God help us all and bring us back to Him, putting Him first
and bringing glory to Him.
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News Item4/8/09 5:10 PM
Tony Lopez-Cisneros  Find all comments by Tony Lopez-Cisneros
Augustine of Hippo (540-604 AD) wrote: "I say confidently therefore, that whosoever calls himself Universal Bishop, or even desires in his pride to be called such, is the forerunner of ANTICHRIST."

It can therefore be said, Politically Speaking: 'confidently therefore, that whosoever calls himself Universal (Global/World-Wide/International/Multi-National/Etc.) President, Prime Minister, King, Prince, Ruler & Etc., or even desires in his pride to be called such, is The Forerunner or VERY Fulfillment of THE BEAST Of Revelation 13:1-10' !

"Little children, it is THE LAST TIME: and as ye have heard that ANTICHRIST shall come, even NOW are there MANY Antichrists; whereby we know that it is THE LAST TIME.

They (Many Antichrists) went OUT from US, but They were NOT of US: For if They had been of US, They would NO DOUBT have CONTINUED with US: but They went OUT, that They might be made MANIFEST that They were NOT All of US.

But ye have an unction from The HOLY ONE (NOT The "pope" on Earth; But Almighty GOD in Heaven), and ye know ALL THINGS." I John 2:18-20

"What obstacle is there but the Roman state[/"church": VATICAN], the falling away of which, by being scattered into ten kingdoms, shall introduce ANTICHRIST (To The World)--Tertullian (155-222 AD) !

GLOBAL-OBMANATION

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News Item4/8/09 2:12 PM
KK | USA  Find all comments by KK
From the article:
"While we remain a nation decisively shaped by religious faith, our politics and our culture are, in the main, less influenced by movements and arguments of an explicitly Christian character than they were even five years ago. I think this is a good thing — good for our political culture, which, as the American Founders saw, is complex and charged enough without attempting to compel or coerce religious belief or observance. It is good for Christianity, too, in that many Christians are rediscovering the virtues of a separation of church and state ..."

THAT'S PLAIN HOGWASH !!!

Separation of Church and State ??? - There's no such thing - not the way men have defined the demarcated limitations today !!! - Only the ignorant embrace such an asinine notion !!!

Obama says he agrees with George W. Bush's assessment that all the world religions pray to the same god. WRONG !!! - Obama also believes Islam is a religion of peace. - BUNKUM !!! - And to top it off Obama says America is no longer a Christian nation ...

One thing's for sure Obama and his crew are doing everything they can to tear America apart and further the LIE Re: Separation of Church and State.

GOD BLESS America ??? - ONLY IF "We" .. R E P E N T .. !!!

Veritas Vincit !!!

"IN" Christ, KK

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News Item4/8/09 9:21 AM
Tony Lopez-Cisneros  Find all comments by Tony Lopez-Cisneros
As I was saying YESTERDAY: Before I was SO Diabolically, Devilishly, Demonically, Satanic-Vaticanalistically & "Jesuitically" HINDERED:

AMEN, BROTHER GK !

THE ONLY THING THAT I CAN THINK OF THAT CONTROLS "lance eccles" TO CONTINUE "trying to chip at the mountain of (Authorized Biblical-Literalist) Christianity with" [his] Satanic-Vaticanist & Roman "Catholic" Cultic "toothpick"; IS THAT he's POSSESSED WITH THE SAME "RELIGIOUS" DEVIL-DEMONIC SPIRIT(S) THAT I WAS POSSESSED WITH WHEN I WAS A SATANIC-VATICANIST & ROMAN "CATHOLIC" CULTIST !

ROMAN "CATHOLICISM" IS INDEED A FORM OF "RELIGIOUS" DEVIL-DEMON SPIRIT POSSESSION !

JUST ASK MOSAB HASAN YOUSEF OR BROTHER !

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News Item4/7/09 6:16 PM
Illustrated  Find all comments by Illustrated
And How Should I Explain To You That Your Website Is Manipulated & Used By The Satanic Vaticanist "Jesuits": For The Purpose Of Denying That Almigty God Still Communicates To His People By Dreams & Divine Illuminations (Not Negated or Contradicted In The Holy Scripture)--Yet At The Same Time The "Jesuits" Use Satanic & Devil Inspired False "Dreams" & False "Divine Illuminations" To Deceive, If It Were Possible, Even The VERY ELECT ! ! !
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News Item4/7/09 5:08 PM
Tony Lopez-Cisneros  Find all comments by Tony Lopez-Cisneros
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News Item4/7/09 5:01 PM
GK  Find all comments by GK
Tony Lopez-Cisneros wrote:
Evidently, "lance" wants ALL to believe his LIE that The Satanic Roman "Catholic" Cult of Popish "Jesuitic" Vaticanism is a Legitimate Historic Judeo-Christian Church !
"wanting" and "getting" are 2 very different things!!

how long has Lance and his mates been trying to chip at the mountain of Christianity with their RC toothpick now? LOL

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News Item4/7/09 4:06 PM
Tony Lopez-Cisneros  Find all comments by Tony Lopez-Cisneros
Evidently, "lance" wants ALL to believe his LIE that The Satanic Roman "Catholic" Cult of Popish "Jesuitic" Vaticanism is a Legitimate Historic Judeo-Christian Church !

Yet, Even Secular World History Teaches ROMAN-"CATHOLICISM" IS THE WORLD'S OLDEST, LARGEST & RICHE$T FALSE "CHRISTIAN" CULT !

IT WAS BORN FROM HELL IN 313 AD; WHEN CONSTANTINE I MERGED THE ROMAN STATE TO THE ROMAN "CHURCH": THUS CREATING THE POLITICAL-"RELIGIOUS" MONSTER KNOWN TODAY AS ROMAN-"CATHOLISM" OR SATANIC-VATICANISM:

"AND THE WOMAN (THE "CHURCH" WHORE) WAS ARRAYED IN PURPLE AND SCARLET COLOR, AND DECKED WITH GOLD AND PRECIOUS STONES AND PEARLS, HAVING A GOLDEN CUP IN HER HAND FULL OF ABOMINATIONS AND FILTHINESS OF HER FORNICATION:" REVELATION 17:4

A.Tertullian (155-222 AD) Spoke of The Roman "Church/State" Whore "whose separation into ten kingdoms will bring on ANTICHRIST"--The Roman Empire wasn't completely divided until 476 AD !

B.Cyril (315-386 AD): "There shall arise, at the same time, ten kingdoms of THE ROMANS at different places, indeed,...After them, The Eleventh Will Be ANTICHRIST, who trough magical wickedness, will seize the power of THE ROMANS." !

C.Jerome (347-420 AD): "Unless The ROMAN EMPIRE Should First Be Desolated, and ANTICHRIST Proceed, CHRIST WILL NOT COME." !

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News Item4/7/09 2:47 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Apparently, Lance hasn't read, Were the Early Christians Roman Catholics? yet. By what the Popish Church says and does, it's obvious that it isn't Christian, Is the One True Church Roman Catholic?.
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News Item4/7/09 9:21 AM
AvenueOfLight | Florida  Contact via emailFind all comments by AvenueOfLight
AmeriKa "Explicitly" Identified in Prophecy!

Revelation 13:

www.Xanga.com/Avenueoflight

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News Item4/6/09 7:28 AM
Faithful Remnant  Find all comments by Faithful Remnant
Actually Lance, Constantine and his bishops and later the Pope and his bishops were intolerant of other interpretations and have propagated persecutions against those who believed differently. Thus we have the Constantine Catholic Church, what we know today as the Roman Catholic Church.
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News Item4/5/09 8:47 PM
Tennessee Wise | Tennessee  Find all comments by Tennessee Wise
First let's set the record straight America has never been a Christian nation this was a country founed by Christians. The only theocracy there ever was, was Isreal. What we have had is the blessings of God to be used to minister the "Word of God" throughout the world. It will not make a bit of difference to me what a poll or a magazine article had to say about God and his people. The problem is we are told to be in the world but not of the world and some evangelicals do not get that verse. We are told to pray for the down fall of evil and sin where ever we may find it. We want to as a nation believe there is no God. God obliged our disbelief by removing the restraints of the Holy Spirit and rewarded use with all the wickedness and suffering we can handle. So it's up to the Christian not to try and elect God into the public square but use our weapon of warfare and that is prayer. The only way my Bible tells me how God hears is through prayer.
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News Item4/5/09 8:45 PM
Lance Eccles | Goulburn, Australia  Contact via emailFind all comments by Lance Eccles
Tony Lopez-Cisneros wrote:
IT WAS BORN FROM HELL IN 313 AD; WHEN THE PAGAN ROMAN EMPEROR, CONSTANTINE, BETROTHED THE EVENTUAL MARRIAGE, UNION & (CON)FUSION OF THE EMPIRICAL ROMAN STATE TO THE LEGALIZED ROMAN "CHURCH": THUS PRODUCING THE RELIGIO-POLITICAL MONSTER KNOWN AS ROMAN-"CATHOLISM"
Oh yes. I've heard that myth before. I think it was the 18th century neo-pagan, Edward Gibbon, who invented it.
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News Item4/5/09 7:12 PM
Tony Lopez-Cisneros  Find all comments by Tony Lopez-Cisneros
Once AGAIN, The Satanic-Vaticanist "Jesuits", Roman "Catholic" Cultists & Apostate (Really: Vaticanized) 'Protestants' Are Deceiving The American Public By Continually Confusing "Religion" For TRUE AUTHORIZED BIBLICAL-LITERALIST JUDEO-CHRISTIANITY and visa-versa !

Satanic-Vaticanism, Roman-"Catholicism" and/or The Satanic Roman "Catholic" CULT of Popish "Jesuitic" Vaticanism NEVER WAS, NEVER HAS BEEN, IS NOT & NEVER WILL BE TRUE HISTORIC AUTHORIZED BIBLICAL-LITERALIST JUDEO-CHRISTIANITY !

THOSE WHO SAY OTHERWISE KNOW NOTHING ABOUT HISTORIC ROMAN-"CATHOLICISM", WORLD HISTORY OR TRUE HISTORIC AUTHORIZED BIBLICAL-LITERALIST JUDEO-CHRISTIANITY !

ROMAN-"CATHOLICISM" IS THE WORLD'S OLDEST, LARGEST & RICHE$T FALSE "CHRISTIAN" CULT: WITH OVER 1 BILLION MEMBERS !

IT WAS BORN FROM HELL IN 313 AD; WHEN THE PAGAN ROMAN EMPEROR, CONSTANTINE, BETROTHED THE EVENTUAL MARRIAGE, UNION & (CON)FUSION OF THE EMPIRICAL ROMAN STATE TO THE LEGALIZED ROMAN "CHURCH": THUS PRODUCING THE RELIGIO-POLITICAL MONSTER KNOWN AS ROMAN-"CATHOLISM" OR SATANIC-VATICANISM:

"AND THE WOMAN (THE "CHURCH" WHORE) WAS ARRAYED IN PURPLE AND SCARLET COLOR, AND DECKED WITH GOLD AND PRECIOUS STONES AND PEARLS, HAVING A GOLDEN CUP IN HER HAND FULL OF ABOMINATIONS AND FILTHINESS OF HER FORNICATION:" REVELATION 17:4

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