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FRONT PAGE  |  2/13/2016
THURSDAY, DEC 4, 2008  |  16 comments
Episcopal Split as Conservatives Form New Group
WHEATON, Ill. — Conservatives alienated from the Episcopal Church announced on Wednesday that they were founding their own rival denomination, the biggest challenge yet to the authority of the Episcopal Church since it ordained an openly gay bishop five years ago.

The move threatens the fragile unity of the Anglican Communion, the world’s third-largest Christian body, made up of 38 provinces around the world that trace their roots to the Church of England and its spiritual leader, the Archbishop of Canterbury.

The conservatives intend to seek the approval of leaders in the global Anglican Communion for the province they plan to form. If they should receive broad approval, their effort could lead to new defections from the Episcopal Church, the American branch of Anglicanism. ...


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News Item12/6/08 10:58 AM
Christian Raas | Switzerland  Find all comments by Christian Raas
Faithful Remnant wrote:
If these conservatives are following their convictions and confession (which upholds Christ, Scripture and Faith Alone), then they have sufficiently given up the doctrines of apostacy, even if they aren't following perfectly another man's interpretation of the Bible(i.e. the Pope's version of it or Mr. Rugh's version, Spurgeon's, etc..etc.), because if this conformity to another person's version is demanded, then man's thoughts are again superior to the Scriptures alone for each congregation or individual and we don't need to go there again. They have been freed from one pope and don't need another, whether in Rome or elsewhere.
Very well said Faithful Remnant. I am sick of people being put on a pedestal and placed in a position of authority that belongs to God and God ALONE. Even spiritual giants like Luther, Spurgeon or others were fallible human beings saved by Grace Alone and were not above reproach. CHRIST ALONE is the ONLY Head of the Church and His Word is the ONLY Authority in all matters of faith and practice.
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News Item12/6/08 6:32 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Thank you Christian for the info.

I tried to look on the website, but my broadband can only download at about 20kB/sec, and it wouldn't load even the homepage.

May the Lord Jesus bless the effort of the continuing church to keep to the old paths. Maybe this time next year there will be eight churches, eh? But it will be hard work. The Ecumenical Movement ( ) is running rampant in the UK.

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News Item12/6/08 4:12 AM
Christian Raas | Switzerland  Find all comments by Christian Raas
John UK wrote:
Christian
Does cofec have churches in uk?
Yes John UK. The Church of England (Continuing) does have four congregations in England. They are St. Silas in Wolverhampton, St. Mary's in Reading, St. John's in South London and Holy Trinity in Frinton-on-Sea. As you can see this is a very small fellowship of churches, but then the Lord said that his followers would always be a little flock in this present evil world.

The address of the presiding bishop is:

Edward Malcolm
15 Bridge Street
Knighton
Powys
LD7 1BT
UK

God bless!

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News Item12/5/08 3:18 PM
Faithful Remnant  Find all comments by Faithful Remnant
If these conservatives are following their convictions and confession (which upholds Christ, Scripture and Faith Alone), then they have sufficiently given up the doctrines of apostacy, even if they aren't following perfectly another man's interpretation of the Bible(i.e. the Pope's version of it or Mr. Rugh's version, Spurgeon's, etc..etc.), because if this conformity to another person's version is demanded, then man's thoughts are again superior to the Scriptures alone for each congregation or individual and we don't need to go there again. They have been freed from one pope and don't need another, whether in Rome or elsewhere.
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News Item12/5/08 2:53 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
My, John, I wondered what happened to you. I serious doubt if they will give up The Doctrine of Apostates (Listen to that sermon, yet? . The Anglican Church had problems back in the 19th century as Charles Spurgeon so elegantly put it, The Down Grade. With a few notable exceptions (and the RCC isn't one of them ) denominational churches are dragged down together by being in what isn't a biblical structure,
Gil Rugh said or, wrote:
What is the impact of His work on mankind today? As Head of the Church, which is His body, His presence is manifest in the universal Church on the earth today with the local Church the manifestation of the universal. Within each local church there is to be growth individually and corporately so that manifestation of Christ is increasingly evident. Presently Christ is working to nourish and cherishes the Church, His Body.
, from The Ministry of Jesus Christ Today
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News Item12/5/08 1:18 PM
San Jose John | San Jose, CA  Find all comments by San Jose John
Shades of J. Gresham Mechan, who left the liberal PCUSA and formed OPC back in the 1930s.
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News Item12/5/08 10:47 AM
rogerant | Saskatoon Canada  Contact via emailFind all comments by rogerant
Christian Raas wrote:
What are these people waiting for? There already is a 'Church of England (Continuing') www.cofec.org which is holding to the original Anglican confession, the original Book of Prayer, the original 39 Articles and who uses and honours the Authorized Version. In fact the CofEC might be the only Anglican denomination worthy of that name!!
There are others:

http://www.anglicanorthodoxchurch.org/

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News Item12/5/08 7:27 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Christian

Does cofec have churches in uk?

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News Item12/5/08 6:36 AM
Christian Raas | Switzerland  Find all comments by Christian Raas
What are these people waiting for? There already is a 'Church of England (Continuing') www.cofec.org which is holding to the original Anglican confession, the original Book of Prayer, the original 39 Articles and who uses and honours the Authorized Version. In fact the CofEC might be the only Anglican denomination worthy of that name!!
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News Item12/5/08 6:02 AM
John Yurich | USA  Find all comments by John  Yurich
Jim Lincoln wrote:
This is like calling the RCC, a Christian body. No doubt there are some Christians in it, but like Catholics, q.v., Come out of the Catholic Church. It would be a much more direct approach to learn What to Look for in a Church.
What is with you anyway? If they are starting a new Episcopal Church that is going to be more biblical then the national Episcopal and Anglican Church then why do you state that the new Episcopal Church will still be unbiblical?
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News Item12/5/08 4:12 AM
Mark M. | GA in the Obamanation  Contact via emailFind all comments by Mark M.
I took Lee's advice and read some of the comments on the article's website. All I can say is WOW. Never have I read so many articulate posts presented by so many "Christians" and "well wishers" that were so Biblically ignorant. Just to throw it out to the general public, Leviticus has several types of "laws" listed throughout the book. Some laws like avoiding bloody meat, seafood,tatooing (sp?),and wearing clothes of one thread were for health reasons. We often forget that until modern times certain foods, dyes, and procedures were not safe. Nobody is going to Hell for having a pork chop, but even today if one eats meat that is undercooked he can get sick and in rare occasions may end up in Heaven before their time. Laws like not shaving or having hair of a certain length were for specific people with specific roles to play in the Jewish Religion. Even today Rabbis (sp?) follow such traditional rules. Of course the sacrificial laws are done away with for Christians because Christ was the last, best sacrifice that we will ever need. Finally, there are laws or rules that remain in effect, such as how Homosexuality is a sin and how it is wrong to murder an unborn child. BTW it IS a loving thing to want people OUT of the homo lifestyle.
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News Item12/4/08 7:50 PM
Heckler | On the Run  Find all comments by Heckler
As the man who rebuked the Sodomite adulterer & counterfeit Bishop Gene Robinson I applaud the Dioceses that are finally standing up to be counted. How can you remain a part of a church that has twisted scriptures definition of sin. When a practising unrepentent sodomite Bishop preaches that homosexuality is a blessing from God is not only allowed to remain in the church but thrust forward as an ambassador and is celebrated you know that Christ is not in that church and Satan is in control.

Sodomy is a sin and those who are unrepentent practitioners in it should be expelled from the church.

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News Item12/4/08 4:38 PM
Lee Swanson | Willow Grove, Pa.  Find all comments by Lee Swanson
When reading the article, don't forget to read the reader's comments. All 200 + of them. It will curl the hair on your neck.
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News Item12/4/08 3:53 PM
Faithful Remnant  Find all comments by Faithful Remnant
Good. They get my full support to for a true Protestant fellowship Bible-based congregations.
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News Item12/4/08 2:34 PM
Here24  Find all comments by Here24
"The move threatens the fragile unity of the Anglican Communion, the world’s third-largest Christian body, made up of 38 provinces around the world that trace their roots to the Church of England and its spiritual leader, the Archbishop of Canterbury."

Poor old Rowan!

It is sad that those practicing the religion of Liberalism can't see the truth in Scripture and like the Pharisees, are heading for hell.

Actually we have all been waiting for the "big split" in the entire Anglican communion for years. Worldwide not just locally.

Question - If you follow a blind guide, where will you end up?

Matt 23:27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.

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News Item12/4/08 2:11 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
This is like calling the RCC, a Christian body. No doubt there are some Christians in it, but like Catholics, q.v., Come out of the Catholic Church. It would be a much more direct approach to learn What to Look for in a Church.
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