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Choice News WEDNESDAY, NOV 12, 2008  |  21 comments
'Why Believe in a God?' Ad Campaign Launches on D.C. Buses

WASHINGTON, D.C. — You better watch out. There is a new combatant in the Christmas wars.

Ads proclaiming, "Why believe in a god? Just be good for goodness' sake," will appear on Washington, D.C., buses starting next week and running through December. The American Humanist Association unveiled the provocative $40,000 holiday ad campaign Tuesday.

In lifting lyrics from "Santa Claus is Coming to Town," the Washington-based group is wading into what has become a perennial debate over commercialism, religion in the public square and the meaning of Christmas.

"We are trying to reach our audience, and sometimes in order to reach an audience, everybody has to hear you," said Fred Edwords, spokesman for the humanist group. "Our reason for doing it during the holidays is there are an awful lot of agnostics, atheists and other types of non-theists who feel a little alone during the holidays because of ...

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News Item11/19/08 2:13 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
The Wall Street Journal had a comment about the proselyting atheists.
Atheists Reach Out -- Just Don't Call It Proselytizing. We Christians should support our own proselytizing, The Roman Road. I don't know how long the Wall Street Journal article will be up, like the Houston Chronicle ones they probably will disappear rather quickly.

News Item11/17/08 5:54 PM
Publican | Northern Hemisphere  Find all comments by Publican
Absolutely, ErnieG

Just as the timetable for any given people has always been the reign of their king; the entire world has it's measure of time based on the reign of the One Great King.


News Item11/16/08 3:18 PM
Jessica Dawson | Canada  Contact via emailFind all comments by Jessica Dawson
Michael Hranek Endicott, New York, Amen and amen!

News Item11/16/08 12:26 AM
ErnieG  Find all comments by ErnieG
This is the "HAPPY HOLIDAYS MYTH" that the world is now worshiping on December 25th!

"The Santa Claus myth was popularized in America by the 1823 poem "A Visit From Saint Nicholas," attributed to Clement Moore. The poem begins "Twas the night before Christmas"... In the early 1860s cartoonist Thomas Nast drew Santa as a round, bearded man in a red suit, an image that stuck... An 1897 editorial by Frank P. Church in the New York Sun coined the famous phrase "Yes, Virginia, there is a Santa Claus." Church was replying to a letter from a young reader, Virginia O'Hanlon, who asked if Santa Claus really existed... According to the Encarta encyclopedia, the nickname Kris Kringle evolved from the German words for Christ child, Christkindl."

Just remember when you are out witnessing for Jesus Christ, that HE IS NOT A MYTH because if HE were, why is the WHOLE WORLD ON HIS TIMEABLE???

BC and AD

Ask the person that and see what they can answer!


News Item11/15/08 7:15 PM
ErnieG  Find all comments by ErnieG
The whole solution to this problem. We should NOT be celebrating Santa Claus’s or Kris Kringle’s birthday the same day as we do Jesus Christ, because he is the Counterfeit version of Jesus. Santa Claus should be observed on his own given day on Dec. 31/Jan.1st, since that is the last day of the holiday season known as New Year’s eve and day. So when someone says Happy Holiday’s they would be referring to Santa Claus and when they say “Merry Christmas” they would be referring to Jesus Christ. OK for far?

I know, we are not supposed to celebrate a pagan holiday, blah, blah blah, but since there are many that do observe this day to give praise and honor to Jesus, let Kris Kringle the counterfeit jesus have their own days. Since neither was born on this day and Jesus was sthere first, let Kris have his own day on Jan.1st!!!

ALL the Christmas items have been reduced so Christian children can get a second for what they wanted at the reduced price. People make New Year resolutions they never can keep which makes it a perfect day to celebrate.

The advantage of this is in the gift giving. Those giving gifts on Christmas Dec.24/25 would be doing it in remembrance of the Christ child. Those giving gifts on Dec. 31/Jan.1 would be doing it in the spirit of Santa Claus


News Item11/15/08 7:02 PM
Michael Hranek | Endicott, New York  Protected NameFind all comments by Michael Hranek
First and foremost God is the most important Being who exists. His very will determining our very existence, what we experience in life today and the eternal reward of being with Him and loved forever by Him in His presence in heaven or the horrific punishment of the eternal hell that He will give to the righteous and to the wicked in the day of Judgment. No one has loved us more or cared more for us and where we shall be in all of eternity that Jesus Christ, who truly knows the absolute necessity that we must be born again to be saved from our sin and to be made right with God. Sadly that is not anywhere near how God is being presented today in American so called Christian or Evangelical society.

Christians need to wake up and REPENT for our sins against Christ for giving the lost, the world around us such a wretched misrepresentation of Him, one completely unworthy to be believed in let alone worthy to be loved and obeyed in every area of life, one utterly void of any power to save sinners from their sins. BECAUSE! Why should anyone in their right mind believe in the wimpy pathetic evangelical caricature of the Almighty Holy Sovereign Creator or the Universe as He is promoted today in seeker sensitive, deceived on purpose, world pleasing, ecumenical compromised churches?


News Item11/15/08 5:33 PM
Pikestaff  Find all comments by Pikestaff
"Why believe in a god?"

Actually this could work for God rather than against Him. If God wants a person to think through the question, this may be just the stimulus they need to seek the Lord and His way.

I pray for a positive result in the minds of those whom God has called. Amen.

1Cor 1:27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;


News Item11/15/08 10:49 AM
Sherry C. | Illinois  Contact via emailFind all comments by Sherry C.
No need to persuade those of us who do not celebrate the christianized pagan holidays of Christmas and Easter! It is to us an admixture that is not required in the scriptures. Communion is only required and is celebratory of Christ's life, death and resurrection. And, no, I don't wish for anyone to worship a god. I want everyone to know God, the only true God, and His Son, Jesus Christ, whom He sent. For in this is eternal life!

News Item11/14/08 8:27 PM
Publican | Northern Hemisphere  Find all comments by Publican
Gotta go with you there, Neil. I find no biblical impetus for the celebration of the birth of our Lord.
Look at the results of it.
And any eight year old could figure out that if there
is more than one way to the truth and 'the good', there is no way. If we doubt that, all we need do is look around.

News Item11/13/08 2:59 PM
KK | USA  Find all comments by KK
This is just STUPIDITY gone to seed !!!

Veritas Vincit !!!

"IN" Christ, KK


News Item11/13/08 10:56 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
"Our reason for doing it during the holidays is there are an awful lot of agnostics, atheists and other types of non-theists who feel a little alone during the holidays because of its association with traditional religion."

"Edwords said the purpose isn't to argue that God doesn't exist or change minds about a deity, although "we are trying to plant a seed of rational thought and critical thinking and questioning in people's minds."

And if they "plant a seed of rational thought and critical thinking" the planters will then cease to "feel a little alone"? Good for them. We don't want these rational and critical thinker/planters to "feel" alone, do we?


News Item11/13/08 10:36 AM
fuzzy logic | hot spot  Find all comments by fuzzy logic
You better watch out,
You better not pray,
You better not pout,
I'm trying to say,

A-thee-ists are coming to FROWN.

They're making a plea,
and posting a sign,
They're laughing with glee
'cuz they evolved from brine.

A-thee-ists are coming to FROWN.

They see you when your happy,
They know when you have joy,
They know that Jesus truly loves,
And that love they simply HATE.

OH! (Repeat verse 1)

ps: fuzzy's cd's are available for 9.99...hurry before this joke becomes dull! he he he


News Item11/13/08 8:55 AM
Ralph S | Oregon  Find all comments by Ralph S
This is funny! "For Goodness sakes" is a minced oath meaning "For God's sake" !
I first became aware of this seeing translations of the phrase into Spanish. Regrettably many professing Christians use it.

News Item11/13/08 8:14 AM
John Yurich | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich
Neil and Jessica,

So what if Jesus was not born on December 25? There is nothing wrong with celebrating the Birth Of The Lord Jesus on December 25 regardless if He was not born on December 25. If celberating the Birth Of The Lord Jesus is unscriptural then the Wise Men(However many there were. More then three that is for sure) would not have celebrated the Birth Of The Lord Jesus by giving gifts of gold, frankansense and murr.


News Item11/12/08 9:58 PM
Jessica Dawson | Canada  Contact via emailFind all comments by Jessica Dawson
""Our reason for doing it during the holidays is there are an awful lot of agnostics, atheists and other types of non-theists who feel a little alone during the holidays because of its association with traditional religion."

I don't celebrate Christmas, Jesus was not born on December 25th. I have felt alone during the holidays in the past because, so many Bible studies stop for the season. Everyone feels left out of this or that, now and again.

I spent one Christmas in a mental hospital and the next year in a psych ward. Yet God was with me!

This holiday Season, don't forget those who are alone (widows and widowers, the sick etc.). And maybe bring a nice turkey casserole to an agnostic or an atheist. And pray that this campaign of theirs will backfire and even more people will be drawn to God because of their ads!

Luke 3:17 His winnowing fan is in His hand, and He will thoroughly clean out His threshing floor, and gather the wheat into His barn; but the chaff He will burn with unquenchable fire.”


News Item11/12/08 2:06 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Neil, I liked your first message quite a bit, the only part of the second message is comparing the present day Christmas celebration with Old Testament Law, because Legalism is Shadow, Christ is Substance. Christmas is really a good time to talk about Easter and The Consequences of Not Believing.

News Item11/12/08 11:36 AM
Ashlar  Find all comments by Ashlar
"Our reason for doing it during the holidays is there are an awful lot of agnostics, atheists and other types of non-theists who feel a little alone during the holidays because of its association with traditional religion."

I suppose we must feel sorrow for these poor deluded sinners on their way to eternal damnation without any hope or faith.

Psalm 71:5 For thou art my hope, O Lord GOD: thou art my trust from my youth.

Psalm 146:5 Happy is he that hath the God of Jacob for his help, whose hope is in the LORD his God

Psalm 147:11 The LORD taketh pleasure in them that fear him, in those that hope in his mercy.


Psalm 119:155 Salvation is far from the wicked: for they seek not thy statutes.

Rom 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;


News Item11/12/08 11:00 AM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
Ironically, I have common cause with atheists in wishing this God-dishonoring holyday would disappear. The man-made religious duties of the Christmas season rival those of the OT Ceremonial Law, yet are endorsed by churches when given an evangelistic spin. If so, then the same rationale would justify resumption of the Temple sacrifices, which God *did* ordain to prepare the ground for Christ's coming.

"we are trying to plant a seed of rational thought and critical thinking and questioning in people's minds"

They better be careful what they wish for. As mentioned below, they cannot coherently define or justify what is "good."


News Item11/12/08 10:55 AM
Nate | USA  Find all comments by Nate
"Why believe in a god? Just be good for goodness' sake."

It's funny because they answer their own question.

Without God the definition of "good" is arbitrary. Who determines what is good and bad? Hitler thought that killing Jews was good. Without a God who sets the rules and determines what is good, there is no such thing as good.

You can't have morality without God.


News Item11/12/08 10:30 AM
Scott McMahan | Internet  Protected NameContact via emailFind all comments by Scott McMahan
"for goodness' sake" - be good for no other reason than that? Why? Ethical systems like this make a presupposition about human nature that is not empirically verifiable, namely that it is not totally depraved. That's one of the big problems with Kant's categorical imperative - it replaces "do" with "ought to do" and people don't do to begin with and the sure don't ought-to-do. One big reason I am a (Reformed) Christian is that it's the only world view that fits the verifiable evidence of humanity's history and present.
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