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Choice News SUNDAY, SEP 7, 2008  |  15 comments
Palin’s Church Promoting Conversion of Gays to Heterosexuals
ANCHORAGE, Alaska — Gov. Sarah Palin’s church is promoting a conference that promises to convert gays into heterosexuals through the power of prayer.

“You’ll be encouraged by the power of God’s love and His desire to transform the lives of those impacted by homosexuality,” according to the insert in the bulletin of the Wasilla Bible Church, where Palin has prayed for about six years.

Palin’s conservative Christian views have energized that part of the GOP electorate, which was lukewarm to John McCain’s candidacy before he named her as his vice presidential choice. She is staunchly anti-abortion, opposing exceptions for rape and incest, and opposes gay marriage and spousal rights for gay couples.

Focus on the Family, a national Christian fundamentalist organization, is conducting the “Love Won Out” Conference in Anchorage, about 30 miles from Wasilla. ...


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News Item9/14/08 2:38 PM
Daniel Lee Ford | Spring Arbor, Mich.  Find all comments by Daniel Lee Ford
John Barleycorn wrote:
threat to the Chruch today?
Church? or crutch?

The Looming Specter of Homo-Fascism, Message Given at Wisconsin Christians United's International Conference on Homo-Fascism
"Fascism is a political system whereby all opposition to and dissent from the government is disallowed and crushed. Fascism is a philosophy which tolerates no deviation from an established norm,that being the dictates of a powerful elite.Fascism is opposed to the eternal,unchanging, objective law of God and is based on the subjective desires and goals of those who have the power to crush their opposition.In many Western nations,a form of fascism has taken root and presents a clear, present, and growing danger to Christian liberty and the Church of Jesus Christ.This force for evil may justly be referred to as "homo-fascism" due to the fact that those espousing and driving it have as their goal to demonize,marginalize,and silence any criticism of or opposition to homosexual acts and the sodomite agenda.Already Christians in many countries are being arrested for preaching what the Bible teaches concerning homosexual acts. The machinery of tyranny is being put into place." Pastor Ovadal

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News Item9/14/08 1:30 PM
John Barleycorn | Isle of Man  Find all comments by John Barleycorn
Good to see this website has found something combining homosexuality and Gov. Palin. It helps keep homosexuality in the lead as the top news item covered by this site. My thought is that persecution, evangelism, the Bible, the Church, would be one of the top ones instead. Is homosexuality such a threat to the Chruch today?
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News Item9/14/08 12:10 PM
lyn | usa  Contact via emailFind all comments by lyn
John Y.- Let me ask you this, how does a 'church' change a homosexual to a heterosexual? If it were that 'easy', then why is the RCC filled with perverted priests?
Only GOD can change a human heart, the desires of the wicked sinner, and the thoughts of vile mankind. It is only when someone cries out "GOD be merciful to me, a sinner" that the Lord hears, and grants the new birth. The inward change is reflected by the outward way of living and speaking. Unless there is fear of the Lord, nothing changes in sinners. No 'church' has the power to change a life, only the word of God has this power, and only if it is given as it is written. We proclaim the good news, but God is the one who grants the new birth.
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News Item9/14/08 9:26 AM
John Yurich | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich
Well that is good that Palin's church is promoting the conversion of homosexuals to heterosexuals.
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News Item9/8/08 7:30 PM
Michael Hranek | Endicott, New York  Protected NameFind all comments by Michael Hranek
Zena Lerner wrote:
It is not helpfull in my quest to reach my Jewish relatives for the Messiah to have Christians speak so.
Zena Lerner
I appreciate your post and like Hidemi pray that the LORD reveal that Jesus Christ is Messiah to them and bring them to want Him, and want Him to save them more than anything on this earth.

I am reminded of a certain Jewish man who told us, I am not worthy to untie His sandals and oh! do I agree with him.

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News Item9/8/08 3:01 PM
hidemi williges | san francisco, ca  Contact via emailFind all comments by hidemi williges
Zena Lerner wrote:
my quest to reach my Jewish relatives for the Messiah
I pray that the Lord will open the eyes of your relatives to our Blessed Hope and that they will come to the Lord.
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News Item9/8/08 2:44 PM
Zena Lerner | N.J.  Find all comments by Zena Lerner
Engineer: Were you working for Mussolini when he found the best way to make the trains run on time was to shoot the engineer if it came in late? The O.T. also calls for execution for adultery. Jesus says thinking of lust is adultery. Where do we all line up to get executed? You sadly display the inordinate fear and hatred of homosexuals that Evangelicals are paranoid about. Sin is sin. The wages of sin is death. Unrepentent sodomites will suffer the second death, as will unrepentent thieves, liars etc. You are on a warpath that is going to eat you alive if you take such positions. The O.T. law was a type showing the seriousness of sin and the inability of man to not sin, thus the need for a dispensation of Grace. Your faith is strong, as is your love for God, but you must confront your anger. Unlike God's righteous indignation, your uncontrolled anger can only lead you into directions that will destroy your witness. It is not helpfull in my quest to reach my Jewish relatives for the Messiah to have Christians speak so.
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News Item9/8/08 9:24 AM
ENGINEER | USA  Find all comments by ENGINEER
Execute Sodomites
Civil officials have a God ordained duty to execute sodomites.

The word of God commands, "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them" (Lev.20:13).

Have we not been taught that homosexuality is an abomination (Lev.18:22). And those who engage in homosexuality are so vile that their very presence defiles the land and its inhabitants (Lev.18:25-28).

This sodomite defilement brings eternal damnation upon all who approve of homosexuality (Rom.1:32, 13:2) and brings God's righteous judgment of punishment and death on the society as a whole (Gen.19:24-25, II Pet.2:6).

The Magistrate, in his proper role, "beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to [execute] wrath upon him that doeth evil" (Rom.13:4).

Since Magistrates have such a sure Biblical mandate to protect the innocent people in society by using the sword to execute sodomites (he that doeth evil), why then, are Christians encouraging civil officials to ignore the commandments of God concerning homosexuality?

This would be a MAJOR inducement to repent,
would it not?

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News Item9/7/08 6:14 PM
hidemi williges | san francisco, ca  Contact via emailFind all comments by hidemi williges
To everyone here,Excellent points were made. This November, I am voting for all of you.
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News Item9/7/08 3:14 PM
enough already | usa  Find all comments by enough already
DLF,Fuzzy,
It is an absolute MUST that the human heart be broken over its condition, and the convicted sinner cry out "God be merciful to me, a sinner". Confession and repentance are 'glossed over' in today's 'modern Christianity'. God is not waiting for us to make a decision for Him, He owes us NOTHING!! Salvation is by His grace, a gift of God. Let's pray for all sodomites to be humbled and saved, but may we NEVER, EVER gloss over or make light of God's absolute hatred of ALL SIN. May we never think one is changed by any man-made 'formula'. Jesus teaches in Luke 13, "Repent, or you will all perish". In the Greek, perish means 'destroy'. This is a powerful statement. If we don't tell sinners they must repent, then we have failed to give the gospel as it is written. Sadly, there are homosexuals who claim to be 'Christian', yet they still have wickedness and perversion in their hearts. Jeremiah 17:9 says this, 'The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked {incurable}, who can know it?' If our hearts are incurable, how is it then we think we can 'fix it'?
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News Item9/7/08 2:54 PM
Daniel Lee Ford | Spring Arbor, Mich.  Find all comments by Daniel Lee Ford
note the Church said "“You’ll be encouraged by the power of God’s love and His desire to

transform

the lives of those impacted by homosexuality,” according to the insert in the bulletin of the Wasilla Bible Church

Rom 12:1-2 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

Fox, here, is using the communist/sodomite/evolutionist/pagan Associated Press for their text, and the Associated Press adds the Sodomite disparaging label of 'pray away the gay'. This kind of 'bait and switch' takes the focus off God's Word.
INTRINSIC to this is mockery of what
is actually being said.

Note the propaganda label of Focus
"a national Christian fundamentalist organization" rather than, as Focus is actually, an evangelical organization.
fundamentalist?Jihad?

Were the AP honest(HA!)the article would have worded it, "Palin, campaigning with McCain in the Midwest on Friday, has not publicly expressed a view on the what is mockingly called “pray away the gay” movement."
typical.

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News Item9/7/08 1:53 PM
fuzzy logic | hot spot  Find all comments by fuzzy logic
Thank you, enough already.

I hate seeing or hearing about vulnerable people being hoodwinked and suckered into these kinds of christian ploys.

Sin is very real. The devil is very real. The work, the dedication, and the spirit to overcome sin and death required is very real. The help via the Holy Spirit is very real. Depression is very real. Joy in the Lord is not only possible it is PROMISED and this promise is very real! Hell is a real place of eternal torment (though I haven't a clue what this exactly means and I don't want to know). Where Jesus dwells in righteousness is very real. Our desire to satisfy lusts is very real. Our new nature to NOT satisfy them is very real.

This duality, although beyond my comprehension, is very, very real.

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News Item9/7/08 1:32 PM
enough already | usa  Find all comments by enough already
Fuzzy logic- there is nothing fuzzy about your statements, you are right on the mark. My response to your commentary is simply this, 'Amen'!
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News Item9/7/08 10:51 AM
Daniel Lee Ford | Spring Arbor, Mich.  Find all comments by Daniel Lee Ford
God's word vs. constitution interpretation..

Howard Friedman -Religion Clause blog- on Palin’s commitment to the constitution over Scripture when governing:

"Her respect for the state constitution was illustrated by her first veto as governor. Alaska’s Supreme Court had ordered the state to provide health benefits to same-sex partners of public employees, finding that this was mandated by the state constitution’s equal protection clause. Palin vetoed a subsequent attempt by the legislature to enact legislation to take away the same-sex benefits. After being advised by the state attorney general that the legislation was unconstitutional, she said that signing the bill would be in direct violation of her oath of office. (Anchorage Daily News, Dec. 29, 2006 article.)"

http://dwb.adn.com/news/government/legislature/story/8525563p-8419318c.html

Governor Palin laid aside Biblical convictions against state funded health benefits for the sodomite partners of state employees and
vetoed legislation that would have denied them
because she was afraid the constitution of the State of Alaska, as presently written, could be argued to allow for them. She was afraid to oppose her attorney general's opinion and take this issue to court.
AFRAID to
"stand up to the courts." Coghill

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News Item9/7/08 10:36 AM
fuzzy logic | hot spot  Find all comments by fuzzy logic
And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what [is] that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God. Romans 12:2
- - -
Interesting, what "sold" me on the idea of Christianity when attending 'church' for the first time was the pastor's excitement about this Romans passage. What got me out of the Charasmatic and Word Faith 'movement' was, THE SAME VERSE.

RE: "pray the gay away"

Can one "pray away": diabetes? Or an addiction to Internet Porn? Or a debt? Or an abusive friend, co-worker, spouse, or how about--a 'worker in Christ' supposedly.

The answer is, "NO!"

The words "transform" and "renew" are on the same side of a coin, if you will. No one should invite someone to the idea that his problems--his life situation--can change if he simply prays.

Prayer works because GOD works on behalf of the soul who cries out to HIM.

If you are struggling with something, ask (beg, implore, make real confession of personal sins to) God for forgiveness, admit your shortcomings as He reveals them to you (an ongoing process) and trust and believe that He is for the caring of you--not to succeed in life, but to grow in His grace towards perfect holiness until He comes back.

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