DENVER — J.D. Greear persuaded his church to drop the word "Baptist" from its name, sell its historic building in Durham, N.C., and move into a local high school. Greear preaches in an untucked collared shirt, sportcoat and jeans. He generally avoids politics but signed a statement urging action on global warming.
Eric Hankins preaches in a suit and tie at First Baptist Church in Oxford, Miss., where hymns like "Brethren, We Have Met to Worship" are the norm. Change for Hankins means adopting a new discipleship curriculum. He questions whether humans cause climate change.
Both men are Southern Baptist pastors in their 30s and lead growing congregations. Both are theologically conservative and engaged in their denomination....
Rob wrote: If we look at the world around us, we'd see millions who do not view Christ as Lord and Savior. If that is a definition of Christianity at its core, shouldn't we who claim Christ not try to knock those who Christ would also call "brother"? I used to try to "correct" Catholics--but now I'm just glad they're on the side of Christ. The real issue, it would seem, is who lives like Christ, rather than merely talk about him.
Rob Really?
How can you call a man brother if he bows before a lifeless piece of bread and calls it Christ? calls upon "the Virgin" of the Catholic Religion because Jesus isn't sufficient enough (so he falsely thinks) to save him completely and forever from his sins, and whose offical reigious possition is that Catholics and Muslims worship the same God.
Rob, Catholics despite their sincerity are desperately wrong and in sin against the very God and against the very Christ they claim to believe in AND one of the absolutely worst things Christians can do is to call them fellow Christians and fail to witness to them.
We cannot 'side' with everyone who claims Christianity. True born again believers will bear fruit, there will be evidence of a changed life. We are new creations in Christ. Repentance and surrendering to Christ is the initial key. We are not to follow church teaching over sound doctrine, nor are we to worship or idolize anyone or anything. There is a HUGE difference in what the bible teaches and what the RCC teaches. Scripture should be the SOLE AUTHORITY for living a godly life. The RCC teaches salvation by works, not understanding the grace of Almighty God, His free GIFT of salvation to all who repent of sin and submit to Christ as Lord and Savior in their lives. To 'line up' with all religions is dangerous. Study what they teach.
If we look at the world around us, we'd see millions who do not view Christ as Lord and Savior. If that is a definition of Christianity at its core, shouldn't we who claim Christ not try to knock those who Christ would also call "brother"? I used to try to "correct" Catholics--but now I'm just glad they're on the side of Christ. The real issue, it would seem, is who lives like Christ, rather than merely talk about him.
And I'll bet that's the first thing that you say to the people you meet...over and over...and then they grab their wallets! If you really understood Catholicism you never would have left.
GG wrote: Unlike you, I don't presume to know the ins and outs of YOUR religion...you guys figure it out. Just don't blame your failures on us.
that's what I figured... as a matter of fact I do know the ins and outs of your religion, for I belonged to it for 25years...now I've left it and I'm a true Christian.
GG wrote: How typically Baptist of Preacherjond, to blame the problems of a degenerating denomination on some scape-goat 'ism'. Face up to it, Baptists have a long row to hoe.
So tell us Baptists about our row(and I'm not Southern Baptist)...
How typically Baptist of Preacherjond, to blame the problems of a degenerating denomination on some scape-goat 'ism'. Face up to it, Baptists have a long row to hoe.
This article is evidence of the rotting cancer of ecumenicalism that has infected our churches. We need to get back to the old paths that our fathers walked before us.
Faithful Remnant wrote: Thank you, Mike. Enjoying summer? I will be flying over your territory in a few days. I will drop some potatoes down to you. They are very good baked over a camp fire and then given a dose of butter, sour cream and herbs. This will require finding a good campsite in your Adirondack playground.
Summer is good. Your potato recipe sounds great. They are also good cut up into chunks,(skins on) wet down with olive oil, salt and pepper, then baked with garlic on an olive oil rubbed cookie sheet. Yum!
Thank you, Mike. Enjoying summer? I will be flying over your territory in a few days. I will drop some potatoes down to you. They are very good baked over a camp fire and then given a dose of butter, sour cream and herbs. This will require finding a good campsite in your Adirondack playground.
Faithful Remnant wrote: No surprise to see divergent interpretations. I agree with the first pastor mostly, because a suit and tie ar not necessary to correct preaching and global warming and pollution in general needs to be addressed and taken care of.
Right on about the suit and tie, potatoman, though the untucked shirt is a "suit" of sorts. But he shouldn't bother with addressing a politically generated hoax. It will be replaced by another when this one's usefulness is done.
No surprise to see divergent interpretations. I agree with the first pastor mostly, because a suit and tie ar not necessary to correct preaching and global warming and pollution in general needs to be addressed and taken care of.
Having a form of godliness but denying the power thereof from such turn away. Its all a modern day carnal thinking thing. its not led by God. God is not contemporary.
The problem exists with the message itself that is being spewed out from pulpits everywhere, it is relevant, non-offensive, candy-coated. Changing dress, style, buildings, music, etc. is not the solution. Sadly, what most churches lack are men of backbone, willing to stand firm in God's truth, preaching the word in season and out of season. Most are afraid they will offend, it would be too risky to preach on repentance, sin, wrath, and judgment. Let us all remember to always pray for our preachers, deacons, worship leaders, Sunday school teachers, etc. Complacency has overtaken so many; remember the warning to the lukewarm church of Laodicea.
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They are very good baked over a camp fire and then given a dose of butter, sour cream and herbs. This will require finding a good campsite in your Adirondack playground. 
Your potato recipe sounds great. They are also good cut up into chunks,(skins on) wet down with olive oil, salt and pepper, then baked with garlic on an olive oil rubbed cookie sheet. Yum!
titus 2: "for lisa,
take heed.
1timothy 2: 13,14."
