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Choice News THURSDAY, JUN 12, 2008  |  20 comments
Forbes: Holy Relics
Deep within a cavernous antiques arcade on Manhattan's Upper East Side, amid the stalls and shops of 80 other merchants, sits A.R. Broomer Ltd. Its neighbor to one side sells art deco. Its neighbor to the other, chinoiserie. Amanda Broomer deals in items altogether different. It's a store where you don't say, "Lend me a hand," unless you really mean it.

Broomer sells the skulls of martyrs ($4,500 each). She sells the teeth of saints ($300). For $975 you can get what may be a tiny splinter from the cross upon which Jesus Christ was crucified. It takes a certain amount of blind faith to believe all the claims attached to religious artifacts.

Other items in stock include, ostensibly, pieces of the body of Saint Thérèse, the Little Flower, made into paste; clothing worn by Saint Anthony of Padua; and a "touched" nail, meaning a nail that once touched a nail from the Crucifixion.

Broomer, 48, ...


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News Item6/26/08 2:16 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
But, G.G., I already know what the Catholics say about where the Bible came from! Who Gave Us the Bible?. Yes, the Jews were right, considering the early Church, was made up almost entirely of former, Jews! What background did you think the Apostles had? .The answer to the following question, Were the Early Christians Roman Catholics?, is obviously, No! Anyway, during the first hundred years or so, the Church was made up of former Jews.

Anyway, Lance, I'm glad to see that you appreciated the craftsmanship that went into, How We Got Our Bible, and at least appreciated the commentary on the Catholic Bible, if not the (obvious ) conclusions.

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News Item6/26/08 1:56 PM
33k  Find all comments by 33k
Mike wrote:
Well, Minnow, her customers should be happy, don't you think?
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News Item6/15/08 10:26 AM
GG  Find all comments by GG
Your right Jim. The Jews must be correct about the scriptures because they were SO RIGHT about the identity of the Messiah!

PS- I scanned you article (re: 'How We Got Our Bible') now go read what the Catholic's say about the bible's origin...its only fair!

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News Item6/15/08 6:15 AM
Lance Eccles | Goulburn NSW  Contact via emailFind all comments by Lance Eccles
enough already wrote:
Jim, Thanks for the link, 'how we got our bible'. GG, Lance, and others would do well to read this
I looked through this rather quickly, and it appears excellent.
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News Item6/14/08 11:30 PM
enough already | usa  Find all comments by enough already
Jim, Thanks for the link, 'how we got our bible'. GG, Lance, and others would do well to read this, however, we know, only God can open their spiritual eyes and ears to understand. I would like to point out one of the many flaws of the Apocryphal books, Tobit 12:9 teaches salvation by works, something the bible strongly teaches against {see Romans 4-5, Gal. 3:11}. If these 'books' were of God, they would NOT contradict the rest of scripture. Again, thank you.
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News Item6/14/08 9:54 PM
preacherjond.  Find all comments by preacherjond.
GG wrote:
I notice Dr Clart that you don't mind taking away from God's words, or are y'all going to put the Deuterocanonicals back in your bibles like they were in the original KJV?
http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0031/0031_01.a..
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News Item6/14/08 6:02 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Let's hope not, G.G., The Jews knew what belonged in the Bible, and the Apocrypha is the false writings that the Roman Church added, q.v., How We Got Our Bible.
Anyway, Lance,
C.H. Spurgeon wrote:
The psalmist is very contemptuous, and justly so: irreverence towards idols is an indirect reverence to God. False gods, attempts to represent the true God, and indeed, all material things which are worshipped, are so much filth upon the face of the earth, whether they be crosses, crucifixes, virgins, wafers, relics, or even the Pope himself. We are by far too mealy mouthed about these infamous abominations: God abhors them, and so should we. To renounce the glory of spiritual worship for outward pomp and show is the height of folly, and deserves to be treated as such.
part of his comments on Psalms 106:20, and of course the Roman Catholic Church supports the worship and intercession of Mary!
Exposing the Idolatry of Mary Worship: Catholic Dogma, Pt. 1 and Exposing the Idolatry of Mary Worship: Catholic Dogma, Pt. 2.
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News Item6/14/08 1:21 PM
GG  Find all comments by GG
I notice Dr Clart that you don't mind taking away from God's words, or are y'all going to put the Deuterocanonicals back in your bibles like they were in the original KJV?
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News Item6/14/08 8:10 AM
Dr Roger Clark | Germany  Find all comments by Dr Roger Clark
Lance Eccles wrote:
Exactly. And that is what the RCC teaches.
There is no other mediator but Jesus Christ, but all, including the saints in heaven, may intercede with him for his mediation on behalf of others.
YOU say they do - the Bible does not agree - see my previous post to this theme.

We are forbidden to add to the Bible - Revelatioms 22;18 and others - which leaves you without an argument.

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News Item6/14/08 2:27 AM
Lance Eccles | Goulburn NSW  Contact via emailFind all comments by Lance Eccles
preacherjond. wrote:
"For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus"
Exactly. And that is what the RCC teaches.

There is no other mediator but Jesus Christ, but all, including the saints in heaven, may intercede with him for his mediation on behalf of others.

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News Item6/13/08 8:57 PM
preacherjond.  Find all comments by preacherjond.
Lance Eccles wrote:
"I also believe in the efficacy of holy relics. I certainly hope that I can get to Sydney to pray before the body of Blessed Pier Giorgio Frassati when it arrives for World Youth Day.
I have every confidence that he will intercede with God for me."

The Holy Bible says:
"For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus"

"Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole. This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner. Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved."

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News Item6/13/08 10:49 AM
Tony Borrelli | Suburban Philadelphia  Find all comments by Tony Borrelli
As Luther wrote in describing his famous trip to Rome where he became converted while walking on his knees, "There you can find the relics of thirteen of the twelve apostles!". That comment raised the Papal price on his head. But I don't think Amanda is selling the Great Reformer's head, although the current Pope would probably still like to buy it and place it on a pike as a warning to wayward Augustinian monks.
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News Item6/13/08 10:41 AM
Dr Roger Clark | Germany  Contact via emailFind all comments by Dr Roger Clark
Lance Eccles wrote:
As a Catholic, I would have to agree with that.
But as a Catholic, I also believe in the efficacy of holy relics. I certainly hope that I can get to Sydney to pray before the body of Blessed Pier Giorgio Frassati when it arrives for World Youth Day.
I have every confidence that he will intercede with God for me.
"And it came to pass, when they were gone over, that Elijah said unto Elisha, Ask what I shall do for thee, before I be taken away from thee" (2 Kings 2;9).

"BEFORE I be taken away from thee" - NOT - "when I am in heaven."

Which disposes of the postulate that the saints effectively intercede for us in heaven.

"the night cometh, when no man can work" (John 9;4).

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News Item6/13/08 7:06 AM
Minnow  Find all comments by Minnow
Lance Eccles wrote:
But as a Catholic, I also believe in the efficacy of holy relics. I certainly hope that I can get to Sydney to pray before the body of Blessed Pier Giorgio Frassati when it arrives for World Youth Day.
I have every confidence that he will intercede with God for me.
Oh Lance;

I really hope and pray that you become a real Christian one day and receive the Truth by the Holy Spirit.

13 "Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, HE WILL GUIDE YOU INTO ALL TRUTH: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come."

Lance; Please come away from the papal antichrist and join the real church.

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News Item6/13/08 5:16 AM
Lance Eccles | Goulburn NSW  Contact via emailFind all comments by Lance Eccles
Still Reason To Protest wrote:
Making profit like this is totally unscriptural and sounds simply blasphemous! You cannot buy grace and faith. You must believe the Creator, not the created. Paying money to merit grace is not Christian.
As a Catholic, I would have to agree with that.

But as a Catholic, I also believe in the efficacy of holy relics. I certainly hope that I can get to Sydney to pray before the body of Blessed Pier Giorgio Frassati when it arrives for World Youth Day.

I have every confidence that he will intercede with God for me.

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News Item6/12/08 8:47 PM
John Yurich | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich
Jim Lincoln wrote:
Ah, I'm going to have to point this one out to Lance, on the Shroud of Turin article! While many can point out that faith is a belief in things unseen, this is like having a faith in things seen.
I would also have to recommend, What Is Idolatry?
Speaking of the Shroud Of Turin. I have never believed that the Shroud Of Turin is the burial cloth of Jesus.
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News Item6/12/08 7:01 PM
Still Reason To Protest  Find all comments by Still Reason To Protest
Making profit like this is totally unscriptural and sounds simply blasphemous! You cannot buy grace and faith. You must believe the Creator, not the created. Paying money to merit grace is not Christian.
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News Item6/12/08 2:13 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Ah, I'm going to have to point this one out to Lance, on the Shroud of Turin article! While many can point out that faith is a belief in things unseen, this is like having a faith in things seen.

I would also have to recommend, What Is Idolatry?

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News Item6/12/08 1:44 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Minnow wrote:
"It takes a certain amount of blind faith to believe all the claims attached to religious artifacts."
Emphasis on "blind" sadly.
A TAX on the superstitions of the Roman Catholics. Mammon demands money for iconolatry. This type of idolatrous profit is a starkly rediculous form of milking the poor and the wealthy superstitious and ignorant.
Quote....
"Her typical customer is male, single, middle-class and gay."
Now thats interesting???
Well, Minnow, her customers should be happy, don't you think?
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News Item6/12/08 12:29 PM
Minnow  Find all comments by Minnow
"It takes a certain amount of blind faith to believe all the claims attached to religious artifacts."

Emphasis on "blind" sadly.

A TAX on the superstitions of the Roman Catholics. Mammon demands money for iconolatry. This type of idolatrous profit is a starkly rediculous form of milking the poor and the wealthy superstitious and ignorant.

Quote....
"Her typical customer is male, single, middle-class and gay."

Now thats interesting???

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