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SATURDAY, MAY 10, 2008  |  6 comments
Christian doctrine disguised in Dr. Seuss stories?
When Horton Hears a Who, is there a sermon to be heard?

What about The Cat in the Hat and The Lorax ? Are those characters metaphors for Christ? And Oh, the Places You'll Go!— if you'll only follow the Great Commission.

No one has ever doubted the layers of meaning in the stories of Dr. Seuss. The Lorax has obvious lessons about the environment. The Butter Battle Book took direct aim at the Cold War arms race. Marvin K. Mooney, Will You Please Go Now! was one way to demand the resignation of President Nixon.

So when Horton's world of Who-ville was "saved by the Smallest of All," Robert Short saw the savior of the Whos as a symbol for the Savior of all people. From Green Eggs and Ham to How the Grinch Stole Christmas , Short has reinterpreted many of Theodor Seuss Geisel's stories as subtle messages of Christian doctrine in the new book, The Parables of Dr. Seuss. ...


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John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Mike wrote:
Bro John,
.....
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What has this to do with regeneration following repenting and believing? Because we have to have ourselves revealed to ourselves, and God revealed to us through his word, be convicted, then we will come to Christ that we might have life. Remember the Holy Spirit sometimes works on people long before they are converted. And too, as v40 shows, they had to come to Jesus that they might have life, not that they had to have life (been regenerated) that they may then come to him.
Bro Mike,
Thanks for the lengthy explanation. I am going to study the passage and bear in mind your comments as I read it.

I am absolutely in agreement that the Holy Spirit can be working in people a long while before they are converted. I don't have a problem with that, and I don't call that work "regeneration". Indeed, this is the very thing I was trying to put over concerning John Bunyan's "Christian", who was under a great conviction of sin and guilt and knew not where to turn or who to ask advice from. I rather think it was quite some time between this conviction of the Spirit and his coming to Christ for "life".

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News Item5/17/14 3:13 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Bro John,

John 5:38 “And ye have not his word abiding in you: for whom he hath sent, him ye believe not.”

That which is not abiding is the word of God, confirmed by
John 5:46 “For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.”

Jesus is saying they refuse to believe Moses, so no surprise they will not believe him. What he doesn't say is ye *cannot* believe. Faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the word of God, yet not all who hear will believe. They heard, they claim Moses, they remain unconvicted, and they will not believe him. They're more interested in receiving honor from one another-v43,44

In v40 Jesus says “And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.” It sounds like they could have life, but willingly refuse. Else why say it to them?

What has this to do with regeneration following repenting and believing? Because we have to have ourselves revealed to ourselves, and God revealed to us through his word, be convicted, then we will come to Christ that we might have life. Remember the Holy Spirit sometimes works on people long before they are converted. And too, as v40 shows, they had to come to Jesus that they might have life, not that they had to have life (been regenerated) that they may then come to him.

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News Item5/17/14 9:41 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
John UK wrote:
Good morning Mike,
Yes, it is an excellent suggestion, and I choose to follow your lead. Well, I do have a freed will, after all.
Now Mike, in my daily reading from Gateway this morning, this verse gave me pause for thought. I rather think the life mentioned was eternal life, and to get it meant coming to Christ. Could you describe how you understand such a text? You have already stated that you believe a man is born again after he repents and believes. How does that fit in with the verse? These are not loaded questions, I am truly quite puzzled. Unless, of course, a sinner can be born again and still not have eternal life or is made a new creation yet. Just thinking out loud, bro.
And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.
(John 5:40 KJV)
Mornin' back at you, bro. Though it be afternoon there by now. Company is coming shortly for a late breakfast, so will have to postpone reply til later.
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News Item5/17/14 3:29 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Mike wrote:
After.
Thought maybe moving the doctrinal issues to a thread about disguising Christian doctrine might be appropriate. Then those with an interest in Benny Hinn can discuss him without interference. Better suggestions welcomed.
Good morning Mike,

Yes, it is an excellent suggestion, and I choose to follow your lead. Well, I do have a freed will, after all.

Now Mike, in my daily reading from Gateway this morning, this verse gave me pause for thought. I rather think the life mentioned was eternal life, and to get it meant coming to Christ. Could you describe how you understand such a text? You have already stated that you believe a man is born again after he repents and believes. How does that fit in with the verse? These are not loaded questions, I am truly quite puzzled. Unless, of course, a sinner can be born again and still not have eternal life or is made a new creation yet. Just thinking out loud, bro.

And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.
(John 5:40 KJV)

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News Item5/16/14 6:26 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
question wrote:
Are we born again after we repent and believe or are we born again before we repent and believe??
After.

Thought maybe moving the doctrinal issues to a thread about disguising Christian doctrine might be appropriate. Then those with an interest in Benny Hinn can discuss him without interference. Better suggestions welcomed.

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News Item5/11/08 12:05 PM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
I heard this about Lord of the Rings too, even though Tolkien himself denied it!

Geisel was a std-issue Progressive, not a stealth evangelist. One does not need to search the Scriptures to find messiahs – it is a universal theme, perhaps put in man's mind by God himself. But only one can truly redeem.

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