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Professor Cites Bible in Faulting Tax Policies
At a time when some voters are asking how the religious views of candidates will shape their policies, a professor’s discovery of how little tax the biggest landowners in her state paid to finance the government has prompted some other legal scholars to scour religious texts to explore the moral basis of tax and spending policies.

The professor, Susan Pace Hamill, is an expert at tax avoidance for small businesses and teaches at the University of Alabama Law School. She also holds a degree in divinity from a conservative evangelical seminary, where her master’s thesis explored how Alabama’s tax-and-spend policies comport with the Bible.

Professor Hamill says that since Judeo-Christian ethics “is the moral compass chosen by most Americans” it is vital that these policies be compared with the texts on which they are based. Another professor says she is the first to address this head on, inspiring ...


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News Item12/29/07 9:59 AM
kevin | georgetown DE  Contact via emailFind all comments by kevin
1Sa 8:1 And it came to pass, when Samuel was old, that he made his sons judges over Israel.
1Sa 8:3 And his sons walked not in his ways, but turned aside after lucre, and took bribes, and perverted judgment.
1Sa 8:4 Then all the elders of Israel gathered themselves together, and came to Samuel unto Ramah,
1Sa 8:5 And said unto him, Behold, thou art old, and thy sons walk not in thy ways: now make us a king to judge us like all the nations.
1Sa 8:7 And the LORD said unto Samuel, Hearken unto the voice of the people in all that they say unto thee: for they have not rejected thee, but they have rejected me, that I should not reign over them.
1Sa 8:11 And he said, This will be the manner of the king that shall reign over you: He will take your sons, and appoint them for himself, for his chariots, and to be his horsemen; and some shall run before his chariots.
1Sa 8:13 And he will take your daughters to be confectionaries, and to be cooks, and to be bakers.
1Sa 8:14 And he will take your fields, and your vineyards, and your oliveyards, even the best of them, and give them to his servants.
1Sa 8:15 And he will take the tenth of your seed, and of your vineyards, and give to his officers, and to his servants.
1Sa 8:17 He will take the tenth of your sheep:
kev
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News Item12/28/07 10:18 PM
Written in Heaven  Find all comments by Written in Heaven
Children born on the actual land in America who were given to Caesar via the State birth certificate are State-citizens and slaves under foreign rule, and therefore must pay whatsoever the Papal Caesar commands.

Recently Christians are becoming angry with the propaganda about China requiring churches to register, yet here in America now only do so-called churches voluntarily become corporations, but parents willingly register God's precious children for the sake of "benefits" and to avoid persecution for not rendering to Caesar what are God's!

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News Item12/28/07 3:26 PM
kevin | georgetown DE  Contact via emailFind all comments by kevin
Jim let me ask you something. If a government official walked up to you and ask you to kill your neighbor, would you do it? I hope not! Why? Because this type of action would go against Yahweh’s Words.

You make mention of Titus 3. However we must read Chapter 2, which sets the stage for chapter 3. Keep in mind that there were no chapters. This was a letter. Man broke up the letter into chapters.

We read in Tit 2:1 "But speak thou the things which become sound doctrine:
Tit 2:7 In all things shewing thyself a pattern of good works: in doctrine shewing uncorruptness, gravity, sincerity,
Tit 2:11 For the grace of Yahweh that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,
Tit 2:15 These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee."

Everybody knows that Paul did not contradict himself in his letters. When Paul wrote Titus “Put them in mind to be subject to principalities and powers, to obey magistrates, to be ready to every good work,” Titus knew that those in charge were to obey the commandments of Yahweh!

Your Church has no choice but to follow the government, because your church is a 501c-3. Your church is not a church, but a business!"

Maybe you need to listen to my sermon on Romans 13.

Kevin

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News Item12/28/07 3:05 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Kevin, what God? Money? The money isn't inscribed with "In Christ We Trust!" Apparently I should have added the sermon,
Response to Human Government,

Titus 3:
1Put them in mind to be in subjection to rulers, to authorities, to be obedient, to be ready unto every good work,

Jamieson, Fausset & Brown wrote:
1. Put them in mind—as they are in danger of forgetting their duty, though knowing it. The opposition of Christianity to heathenism, and the natural disposition to rebellion of the Jews under the Roman empire (of whom many lived in Crete), might lead many to forget practically what was a recognized Christian principle in theory, submission to the powers that be. DIODORUS SICULUS mentions the tendency of the Cretans to riotous insubordination.
to be subject—"willingly" (so the Greek).
principalities . . . powers—Greek, "magistracies . . . authorities."
to obey—the commands of "magistrates"; not necessarily implying spontaneous obedience. Willing obedience is implied in "ready to every good work." Compare Ro 13:3, as showing that obedience to the magistracy would tend to good works, since the magistrate's aim generally is to favor the good and punish the bad.
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News Item12/28/07 8:32 AM
kevin | Georgetown DE  Contact via emailFind all comments by kevin
Jim Lincoln gave us a link, to Gil Rughs booklet. In this booklet Gil refers to Matt. 22 for reference for us to pay taxes.
But what does Yahshua really say?
Mat 22:17 Tell us therefore, What thinkest thou? Is it lawful to give tribute unto Caesar, or not?
Mat 22:18 But Yahshua perceived their wickedness, and said, Why tempt ye me, ye hypocrites?
Mat 22:19 Shew Me the tribute money. And they brought unto Him a penny.
Mat 22:20 And He saith unto them, Whose is this image and superscription?
Mat 22:21 They say unto Him, Caesar's. Then saith He unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto Yahweh the things that are Yahweh's.
Once again whose picture was on the coin? Caesar’s! In fact on some on the coins, were wrote:
1.VOT which is short for VOTA, VOTIS or VOTUM, indicating vows to the gods.
2. SOLI INVICTO which refers to Sol, the sun god. It is often seen as SOLI INVICTO COMITI, "(to) the unconquerable sun god".

But when we look on the money system here in America, we read, “In God We Trust”.

1Sa 8:10 And Samuel told all the words of Yahweh unto the people that asked of Him a king.
1Sa 8:15 And he will take the tenth of your seed, and of your vineyards, and give to his officers, and to his servants.

Kevin

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News Item12/27/07 6:08 PM
33k  Find all comments by 33k
Robert Perry wrote:
Interesting claim; she apparently ignores the fact that the Bible does not attack Rome for failing to provide for the education and medical care of the poor, and does not fault Rome for failing ot have a progressive income tax.
Unconvincing argument from silence.

Robert Perry wrote:
She also seems to ignore the fact that the main roles for government (Romans 13) are to punish the wicked and commend the just.
No, surely this main role for government is implicitly assumed throughout.

Robert Perry wrote:
Any help for the poor from government, Biblically speaking, is by protecting them from those who would victimize them.
Your key word there is "any". It seems the author's belief in the rule of law and the impartial active exercising of it is assumed throughtout.

Robert Perry wrote:
the politics/economics of Galbraith are a chief contributor to human misery around the world.
A bold, sweeping assertion on a par with the assertions of the left or religious conspiracy theorists. Sounds as plausible as blaming Bush/CFR/Illuminati/Castro/Sir Alex Ferguson as chief contributors for most of what goes wrong in the world.
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News Item12/27/07 3:29 PM
kevin | Georgetown DE  Contact via emailFind all comments by kevin
In Gil Rugh so called 501C-3 booklet he writes, “yet the Bible tells us why to pay taxes. We pay taxes to compensate rulers who are ministers of God.” Then he makes reference to Romans 13:4.
But what we forget to focus on is the condition set forth by our Heavenly Father on those “rulers”
Rom 13:1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of Yahweh: the powers that be are ordained of Yahweh.
Rom 13:2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of Yahweh: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.
In here lies the problem. The so called “rulers” of today have refused the powers of Yahweh. Even our president of today is a skull and bone member. By the way, have you ever heard him make mention of Yahshua Messiah in any of his speeches?
No we are not required to pay federal taxes, because we are children of the land and not strangers.
He quotes Matt. 22:17. “Tell us therefore, What thinkest thou? Is it lawful to give tribute unto Caesar, or not?”
Note the face on the coin was Caesars because the Romans controlled the land, The Jews were strangers to this type of government.
Why is this so hard to see? Because the churches of today are 501c-3 otherwords, they are government controlled.

Kevin

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News Item12/27/07 3:02 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
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News Item12/27/07 11:31 AM
kevin | Georgetown DE  Contact via emailFind all comments by kevin
What does Yahshua say about paying taxes?

Mat 17:24 And when they were come to Capernaum, they that received tribute money came to Peter, and said, Doth not your master pay tribute?

Mat 17:25 He saith, Yes. And when he was come into the house, Yahshua prevented him, saying, What thinkest thou, Simon? of whom do the kings of the earth take custom or tribute? of their own children, or of strangers?

Mat 17:26 Peter saith unto Him, Of strangers. Yahshua saith unto him, Then are the children free.

Mat 17:27 Notwithstanding, lest we should offend them, go thou to the sea, and cast an hook, and take up the fish that first cometh up; and when thou hast opened his mouth, thou shalt find a piece of money: that take, and give unto them for Me and thee.

Note the question in verse 25, “children or strangers?"

This is the key to the answer!

But why does Peter say “of strangers?”

Because the land of Israel was controlled by the Romans, therefore the Jews were strangers to the Romans.

But here in America, are we the “children of America” or “strangers of America?”
Children!

Therefore according to Yahshua, as children we are NOT required to pay income tax.

Kevin

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News Item12/27/07 10:13 AM
Robert Perry | Chaska, MN  Contact via emailFind all comments by Robert Perry
Interesting claim; she apparently ignores the fact that the Bible does not attack Rome for failing to provide for the education and medical care of the poor, and does not fault Rome for failing ot have a progressive income tax. She also seems to ignore the fact that the main roles for government (Romans 13) are to punish the wicked and commend the just.

Any help for the poor from government, Biblically speaking, is by protecting them from those who would victimize them.

Nice rehash of Galbraith with a thin (very thin) veneer of Scripture, though. Too bad that the politics/economics of Galbraith are a chief contributor to human misery around the world.

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News Item12/27/07 9:54 AM
NavyCarlos | Raleigh, NC Area  Find all comments by NavyCarlos
The government has no role in helping the poor. The government is for ALL the people on an EQUAL basis. If the government would continue on this path (which it is), we would be breeding those who come to depend on the government rather than do their share.
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