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FRONT PAGE  |  10/26/2014
FRIDAY, OCT 26, 2007  |  16 comments
Father of slain Iraq soldier suing Westboro Baptist church for funeral protest
BALTIMORE -- The father of a Marine killed in Iraq took the stand in his invasion of privacy suit against a fundamentalist church that pickets soldiers' funerals, saying protesters carrying signs at his son's burial made him sick to his stomach.

Albert Snyder said Wednesday he had hoped for a private funeral for his son, Lance Cpl. Matthew Snyder.

"They turned this funeral into a media circus and they wanted to hurt my family," Snyder testified. "They wanted their message heard and they didn't care who they stepped over. My son should have been buried with dignity, not with a bunch of clowns outside."

Snyder is suing the Westboro Baptist church, whose members have picketed the funerals of military personnel killed in Iraq and Afghanistan, claiming the deaths are punishment for the country's tolerance of homosexuality. The York resident is seeking unspecified monetary damages in the case ...


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News Item11/6/07 2:05 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
The Westburo gang is an embarrassment to people who call themselves Christians. These people don't go unnoticed in Nebraska. "A Kansas woman, whose church protests at military funerals, was in court in Sarpy County this morning. Shirley Phelps-Roper was arrested in June after her 10-year-old son stood on an American flag at a military funeral."
from, http://action3news.com/Global/story.asp?S=7314196

One should never mistake these people for Christians, do they behave like this?

1Timothy 3
3 no brawler, no striker; but gentle, not contentious, no lover of money;
1Timothy 3
7 Moreover he must have good testimony from them that are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.
Titus 3
2 to speak evil of no man, not to be contentious, to be gentle, showing all meekness toward all men.
1Corinthians 13
5 doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not its own, is not provoked, taketh not account of evil;

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News Item10/29/07 12:23 AM
Lance Eccles | Goulburn NSW  Contact via emailFind all comments by Lance Eccles
AntiVatAm, I'm not sure why my posting was a pretext for you to repeat yours in its entirety.

Perhaps, as you say, "fag" is of Yiddish/Hebrew origin, though quite honestly, I doubt it.

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News Item10/28/07 9:27 PM
AntiVaticanistAmerican  Find all comments by AntiVaticanistAmerican
albert: You can't trust "lance(fork-tongue)eccles" for anything! ! !

The word "fag" comes from the Hebrew/Jewish/Yiddish word "fagala" which basically means/implies being "effeminate" or "immasculated".
Evidently Mr. Phelps thought that by using a common "Jewish" term ("'fag'ala") for Sodomite/Homo-sexual; it would be more legally-palatable in a United States Criminal Court of Law.

Whatever his reason(s); I personally thought that he used a very convenient, brief, simple and short: yet Very Powerful Word that Packs-A-Punch when it comes to speaking/communicationg in the English/American Vernacular !

The Sodomites do the Same Thing with the word "GAY" -- Which is an Outright LIE and DECEPTION (Very Satanically-Vaticanistically-Jesuitically conveniently USED !) for the OLD words "QUEER", "PERVERT", "DANDY", "MELLOW-YELLOW", "FAIRY", "SISSY", Etc.

*Note: "FAGSs" (the 'smoking' or 'protested' type) will eventially be ETERNALLY SMOKING in the LAKE OF FIRE if They DO NOT REPENT and AREN'T Authorized-Biblically BORN-AGAIN Spiritually!

[By the way, as an AntiVaticanitAmerican, I would appreciate being addressed "Anti-VaticanistAmerican" or "Anti-Vaticanist"; NOT "Anti-Vat": As I personally/publicly don't have anything against Vats unless they're filled with Vaticanists!]

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News Item10/28/07 9:10 PM
Lance Eccles | Goulburn NSW  Contact via emailFind all comments by Lance Eccles
"Semper fi" is the Marines' motto. It stands for "Semper fidelis" (Always faithful).

Mr Phelps "Semper fi fag" apparently means "Marine fag". It sure ain't in the Bible.

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News Item10/28/07 8:53 PM
AntiVaticanistAmerican  Find all comments by AntiVaticanistAmerican
Actually, "albert from Northern Ireland", to my understanding; the word "fag" comes from the Hebrew/Jewish/Yiddish word "fagala" which basically means/implies being "effeminate" or "immasculated".

Evidently Mr. Phelps thought that by using a common "Jewish" term ("'fag'ala") for Sodomite(s)/Homo-sexual(s); it would be more legally-palatable in a United States Criminal Court of Law.

Whatever his reasons; I personally thought that he used a very convenient, brief, simple and short: yet Very Powerful Word that Packs-A-Punch when it comes to speaking/communicationg in the English/American Vernacular !

The Sodomites do the Same Thing with the word "Gay" -- Which is an Outright LIE and DECEPTION (Very Satanically-Vaticanistically-Jesuitically conveniently USED !) for the old words "QUEER", "PERVERT", "DANDY", "MELLOW-YELLOW", "FAIRY", "SISSY", Etc.

*Note: "FAGSs" (the 'smoking' or 'protested' type) will eventially be ETERNALLY SMOKING in the LAKE OF FIRE if They DO NOT REPENT and AREN'T Authorized-Biblically BORN-AGAIN Spiritually!

[By the way, as an AntiVaticanitAmerican, I would appreciate being addressed "Anti-VaticanistAmerican" or "Anti-Vaticanist"; NOT "Anti-Vat": As I personally/publicly don't have anything against Vats (unless they're filled with Vaticanists!)]

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News Item10/28/07 8:24 PM
albert | Northern Ireland  Find all comments by albert
Thank you AntiVat
Does that mean I'v been smoking queers for years before I was saved just joshing as you yanks would say

Boy It's a
Good Job
Thats Why "ye must be born again"

off for some of that good old egyptian PT,so,GNAGBABAB

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News Item10/28/07 7:50 PM
AntiVaticanistAmerican | U.S.A.  Find all comments by AntiVaticanistAmerican
"albert from Northern Ireland": My understanding as per the words "Semper Fi Fag"; as being that it supposedly is found in THE AUTHORIZED HOLY BIBLE -- is that it (the word "fag") is really and INDIRECT Synonymn to the AUTHORIZED BIBLICAL/SCRIPTURAL WORD(S) "Sodomite" and "Dog":

"THOU SHALT NOT BRING THE HIRE (MONEY) OF A WHORE (Prostitute: Male or Female; in this case a Female is implied), OR THE (MONETARY) PRICE OF A DOG (Sodomite: Male Prostitute; in this case a Male Prostitute/Homo-sexual is implied), INTO THE HOUSE OF THE LORD THY GOD." Deuteronomy 23 :18.

"Semper Fi 'FAG'" =

"Semper Fi 'SODOMITE'" =

"Semper Fi 'DOG'" =

"Semper Fi 'HOMO-SEXUAL'

That's why the article stated:

"Phelps said he chose to use the term "fag" in the group's signs because it comes (INDIRECTLY) from (THE AUTHORIZED HOLY BIBLE) SCRIPTURE but(he/Phelps) could also have used (the word[s]) Sodomite or Dog."

*Note: Mr. Phelps is an attorney; from a large attorney/legal family; and therefore has legal/attorney precedent in his favor.

My opinion is that he (Mr. Phelps) will be found NOT GUILTY in a CRIMINAL COURT OF LAW by an IMPARTIAL JURY of HIS OWN PEERS !

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News Item10/28/07 7:45 PM
kenny  Find all comments by kenny
If I were that Marine's father, Fred Phelps (and any other members of Westboro BC that I could have gotten my hands on) would have left there on a gurney.

Whether I agree with him politically/Biblically or not, this kind of behavior is simply not acceptable.

That's why God made the Daddy the biggest one in the family. One of his jobs is to protect the rest of the family and in this case, this guy's Dad should have taken whatever steps were necessary to put a stop to this foolishness.

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News Item10/28/07 6:41 PM
albert | Northern Ireland  Find all comments by albert
Could someone inlghten me as per the words"semper fi fag",they said it is in the bible?

Good Job
Thats Why "ye must be born again"

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News Item10/28/07 5:08 PM
AntiVaticanistAmerican  Find all comments by AntiVaticanistAmerican
I must admit that this is a very hard one to call.

I personally don't believe one should protest anyone's funeral. (As in some funerals; folks are offended if you DO NOT show up: as opposed to if you DO show up!)

As I stated; I don't belive that one should protest another's funeral...

Not even a Roman "Catholic" one.

Or a Mohammedan one.

Or a Nazi, KKK, or even an atheist's funeral!

I think that Westboro Baptist, if not the organized church/institution; but just the "protesters" themselves: may have "CROSSED OVER THE LINE".

I do not believe that any SERIOUS Federal, State, Municipal and/or Local laws were broken by either the "protesters" or the "'funeral' participants" during the aforementioned funeral; SAVE maybe an "invasion of privacy" may be alleged/accused/charged.

The "invasion of privacy" lawsuit, albeit, may have SOCIAL or CIVIL grounds.

However, if financial "GAIN" is the ULTIMATE goal of Mr. Albert Snyder's lawsuit; then that lawsuit should be found WITHOUT GROUND: and thus rendered BASELESS.

Q:Should Christians protest Homo-sexuals to the point of going into their bedrooms and protesting their act(ion)s?

I think that THAT would be a gross "invasion" of ones "privacy".

UNLESS A SERIOUS CRIME LIKE RAPE OR MURDER WAS BEING COMMITTED !

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News Item10/27/07 10:09 PM
Vic | NC USA  Find all comments by Vic
More fodder for Dawkins and Co.
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News Item10/27/07 9:56 AM
Jhawk44  Find all comments by Jhawk44
Amen Rob.

I don't care what your views on the current war are, protesting the war uninvited at a soldiers funeral is just sickening.

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News Item10/26/07 8:26 PM
Rob | St Louis MO  Find all comments by Rob
God bless Albert Snyder and grant him success in this.
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News Item10/26/07 2:52 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Dolores, what does the religion of the lawyer have to do with it? You mean, a person can't pick the attorney they want to defend them? The Westboro gang deserve a fair trial also, no matter how distasteful and unchristian their actions are.

Gil Rugh said or, wrote:
here is much discussion in our society concerning the issue of homosexuality and whether it is an acceptable alternative lifestyle.

The concern for the Church is how those man-centered arguments and resulting persuasions become influential in the thinking of believers. The bottomline issue becomes what, or who, is the authority on the issue at hand.

For the believer it is the Bible. The Bible, being the Word of the unchanging God, remains the standard for living and knowing what is holy and right, and what is sinful and wrong.

The Bible clearly states, from Genesis to Revelation, that homosexuality is sin. It is but one sin among many others which include adultery, fornication, lying, stealing, for which God offers forgiveness to those who repent and place their faith and trust in Christ alone.

http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=92807123612

or,

http://www.ihcc.org/images/booklets/pdf/L118.pdf

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News Item10/26/07 12:00 PM
albert | Northern Ireland  Find all comments by albert
There is only one comment to make for those clowns as the father called them"Suppose ye that these Galileans were sinners above all the Galileans because they suffered such things?.
I tell you nay;except ye repent,ye shall likewise perish".Luke 13-2=3.

But Hey
Thats Why "ye must be born again"

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News Item10/26/07 9:56 AM
Dolores Glenn  Find all comments by Dolores Glenn
Odd paradox that the Rev. Phelps knew how to condemn Roman Catholics and Sodomites and somehow equate that with the war in Iraq, and God's wrath on unbelievers, but he had no reservations about hiring a Jew to defend his sorry hide.
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