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FRIDAY, OCT 19, 2007  |  51 comments
Pope may visit Northern Ireland
Pope Benedict may be interested in visiting Northern Ireland, according to the Archbishop of Dublin, Diarmuid Martin.

Dr Martin told an audience in New York last night that he interpreted the Pontiff's choice of Archbishop Se√°n Brady as cardinal as an indication that he wants to visit Northern Ireland.

He said that, combined with a visit by Queen Elizabeth II to Dublin, such a Papal journey would mark a symbolic opening of a new era north and south.


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News Item12/8/07 4:54 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Why, G.G., I suppose the descendants of any Protestants that may have not be as forthcoming as they should be, could apologize like the Popes have, for all the Protestants they have killed?

"Apology or Inquisition?"

http://www.ianpaisley.org/article.asp?ArtKey=apolinq

However, I won't take the blame for what the watered down "Catholic" Church of England, a.k.a., may have influenced badly or what the English government did. Many of my ancestors were already in America escaping Catholic persecution, i.e., the Huguenots.

But then I suppose, "Two wrongs make a right?"

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News Item12/8/07 6:34 AM
GG  Find all comments by GG
My source is propaganda but yours isn't? Where is the truth? One and a half million dead Irish and many others emigrated to the US and Canada on plague ships...who is responsible...The Pope? I didn't say that Protestants didn't suffer, but Catholics suffered more because there were more of us and the British Govt wanted the Irish to leave Ireland or die. If there had been justice for the Catholics in Northern Ireland it would not have been necessary for American Irish to come to the aid of their oppressed brethen, you would do the same were the situations reversed. I have no idea what the Papacy did during the Famine, but I do know what the English did and how some Prot Churches were guilty of taking advantage. I bring up the Famine so that you Prots don't believe that your above reproach.
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News Item12/8/07 5:16 AM
Robert | Northern Ireland  Find all comments by Robert
G,G Your source is merely a tool for propaganda, hardly an impartial source. The fact is many protestants starved, and as far as NOR AID is concerned yes thats really something to be proud of. you funded the IRA to buy weapons to kill,men women and Children, torture many men women and children, many of course who were catholic. but I guess that is something for a papist to be proud of, as this behaviour is a mirror of what your church has done during the ages.
What was the "Holy Father" doing during this calamity? Was he planning on selling some of the fabulous treasures at the Vatican and rushing aid to his famishing family in faith? By no means! He was keeping a watchful eye on one person - General Garibaldi - and was planning on moving to heretical Protestant England if he should lose Rome to the despised Italian nationalists. As a matter of fact the Pope's bounty on the head of Garibaldi would have fed a lot of Irish children.
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News Item12/8/07 4:08 AM
savedbygrace | Harrisburg, PA  Find all comments by savedbygrace
GG,

Over and over it has been shown that you have no proof of linkage between Jesus Christ and the papacy.

Military organization indeed. I believe Michael Hranek was referring to the infamous Inquisition. As far as the wholesale slaughtering capability in pre-modern history have you forgotten Romes badge of dishonor-
St. Bartholomew's Day Massacre! Upwards of 100,000 in around 40 days.
Now with that infamous slaughter documented by all as a historical event I have to ask you: How long was the Inquisition? Do the math my friend.

JOHN 3:36

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News Item12/8/07 1:53 AM
GG  Find all comments by GG
Robert: "Many...offered help...Please give reference".
"...Irish Catholics were unashamedly pushed into converting to Protestantism in return for bowls of soup' 22, a practice governed by the Temporary Relief Act 1847. In many recorded cases, only those who attended Protestant church services were given food. Elsewhere, Kinealy 23 referred to this evangelical practice as 'souperism' or 'proselytism' - providing food in return for converting the Protestantism. This approach intensified when the government refused to provide any more relief in 1847. This stoppage was, according to the Freeman Journal at the time, 'a signal for a general attack upon the consciences of the poor', a practice which it described as 'nefarious un-Christian wickedness' 24. In Cavan, Lord Farnham and in Down, Earl Roden, a prominent Orangeman, provided material benefits - including an acre or two of land on which they could grow food - but only to 'converts'. Major concern arose when these 'aggressive' practices spread to Counties Cork, Dublin, Kerry, Limerick, Mayo and Sligo, as it was claimed that they heaped insult and degradation onto the misery of the famine, targeting as it did, people who were at their utmost vulnerability..."

http://homepage.eircom.net/~archaeology/two/famine.htm

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News Item12/7/07 5:53 PM
33k  Find all comments by 33k
GG wrote:
Was the money that we American Irish sent to Ireland a joke too? Nor-Aid I think it was called.
No, it was evil.
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News Item12/7/07 4:34 PM
GG  Find all comments by GG
Was the money that we American Irish sent to Ireland a joke too? Nor-Aid I think it was called.
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News Item12/7/07 1:42 PM
Robert | Northern Ireland  Find all comments by Robert
Yes Patrick from what I have seen you sem to be right.
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News Item12/7/07 12:58 PM
Patrick  Find all comments by Patrick
Robert
Just for your information --
GG (Gray Ghost) is an "Irish American" who has never been to Ireland, and is of English ancestry. As you may be aware, people like this are a standing joke both in the North and South of Ireland.
On a visit some years ago to Amarillo in his home state, I encountered a local woman who spoke to me in Irish. At least she claimed to have done so, for I did not understand one word she uttered. She was another, it transpired from subsequent conversation, who assumed I was thirsting for the blood of "protestants". Her ignorance of Irish history was laughableand yet tragic, consisting of the repeating of IRA propaganda. A woman eaten up with hatred for people she had never met, nor whose country she had ever visited.
Of such also is GG.
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News Item12/7/07 11:27 AM
Robert | Northern Ireland  Find all comments by Robert
"Many local Prot groups offered help to the Catholic Irish....provided that they converted first. How Christ-like of them!"
G,G Please give reference for the above statment.

As someone who's family went through both scot's and Irish famines, many of which died from starvation, and who where all Protestants. G,G Just shows me that, he is completley fooled by anti British Rebel propaganda.

I suppose you also believe that Catholics, here in Ulster can't get Jobs or Vote ?
Wake up G,G you are very deceived

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News Item12/7/07 10:33 AM
GG  Find all comments by GG
MH: Your knowledge of Catholicism is as errant as your knowledge of history. No modern historian has ever held the mistaken Prot fantasy that any pre-modern military organization would be capable of killing millions of people much less the RCC. Careful reading of the history that is known and can be proven, only acknowledges deaths in the thousands not the millions that you would like to pretend we are guilty of. But, the group that is guilty of the deaths of 1.2 to 2 million people, is the 19th century Govt of Britain for its shameful starvation of the Irish. Many local Prot groups offered help to the Catholic Irish....provided that they converted first. How Christ-like of them!
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News Item12/7/07 7:44 AM
Michael Hranek | Endicott, New York  Protected NameFind all comments by Michael Hranek
GG wrote:
Sure buddy! Your typical comment is that the RCC is a tool of the devil. However, the RCC was founded by Jesus as his Church, of which Jesus promised "...the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it". Since, the early Church was Catholic and according to you "corrupt", then Jesus must have been out of his mind when he mentioned the "gates of Hell" thing. And we all know that the world languished in error until the "The three stooges" came along (Luther, Calvin, Zwingli).
GG
The gate of hell have certainly have not prevailed against the church that Jesus Christ established

And that would be despite the slaughter of, can we say millions, by your beloved Roman Catholic Religion.

Perhaps one of the reasons you have such a problem with this is that you imagine, having been wrongly taught this by your Religion, that Jesus established an institution. No! His church is wherever two or three born again believers gather together in His Name, He Himself being there in their midst.

Your religion substitues having a "eucharist" in a jar for His true presence among His people and likewise substitutes those sprinkled as infants for those who actually know Him in the new birth and likewise substitutes your Tradition for the Holy Written Word

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News Item12/7/07 6:43 AM
GG  Find all comments by GG
Sure buddy! Your typical comment is that the RCC is a tool of the devil. However, the RCC was founded by Jesus as his Church, of which Jesus promised "...the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it". Since, the early Church was Catholic and according to you "corrupt", then Jesus must have been out of his mind when he mentioned the "gates of Hell" thing. And we all know that the world languished in error until the "The three stooges" came along (Luther, Calvin, Zwingli).
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News Item12/7/07 5:49 AM
savedbygrace | Harrisburg, PA  Find all comments by savedbygrace
GG,

May you please tell me how you link all of that together please?

JOHN 3:36

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News Item12/7/07 1:15 AM
GG  Find all comments by GG
SBG: If what you say is true then Jesus was lying when he said, "The gates of Hell shall not prevail" against his Church. This would mean that the Church he spoke of in Matt 16 ("...upon this rock...") was not only subverted and converted by the devil, but there was no alternative to evil for 1500 years until the "Gang that Couldn't shoot straight", aka "The Reformers" came along. This is one fantasy that I just can't buy.
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News Item12/6/07 4:48 AM
savedbygrace | Harrisburg, PA  Find all comments by savedbygrace
GG,

The Vaticans Prison.

Rome has a mission.
To keep sinners in prison.
Making Peter a pope.
They dangle the rope.
With satan elope.
A vain, fearful hope.
Burdened they mope.
Have you Christ's blood? Nope!

"He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life; and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him." JOHN 3:36

ps. I see you replied with a few quotes from D.Macdonald on the Iran forum. After finding some time to look at his site I will answer.

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News Item11/13/07 5:46 PM
GG  Find all comments by GG
There is a lot rotten in N. Ireland, not just the tomatoes.
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News Item11/13/07 3:46 PM
J Trimble | N.Ireland  Contact via emailFind all comments by J Trimble
Come on papa, we have plenty of rotten tomatoes which await your visit!
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News Item11/3/07 11:33 AM
GG  Find all comments by GG
Albert, do us a favor and write about something you really understand...like...how your old black Pontiff (I.P) went from pastor to secular prince by turning his back on his FP mindless puppets. N. Ireland is a small country, with murderers, thieves, perverts, struggline with its laws, and a dark controversial history. Careful! When tar and feathering an enemy that you don't get the worst of it. Imagine you in feathers...it suits well your mentality.
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