Jim Lincoln wrote: The following is a quotation from that article, Pope Benedict XV said of Mary that '"[O]ne can justly say that with Christ, she herself redeemed mankind." (Note 10) Pope Pius IX said: "Our salvation is based upon the holy Virgin... so that if there is any hope and spiritual healing for us we receive it solely and uniquely from her."'
Solely? If solely why isn't she recorded as healing anybody? We hear lots about Jesus as Redeemer and healing, but why not Mary. The Bible doesn't say she redeemed us or how she redeems.
GG If you can't give any infallible proof then don't call the word of God twisted,Remember that same Word is going to judge YOU(Jn 12-47=48),now go on tell God His Word is twisted again. If those of Gods Words don't mean what it says,then give us Gods Word that backs up what you say is truth and don't try and use Jn 6,as that was not the last supper. cause you can't find any words in the bible to tell you who are(RC)saints in heaven,nor any of Gods Words that tell us to pray to them. You and the rest of the papists that come on this site(not to listen to sermons btw)with lies and man made doctrines,are the ones who are living as you put it in object ignorance(and are in danger of hell fire). Why you don't even believe the laten that your church is so found of couching their doctrines in But hey thats why PROTESTANTS(WITNESSES FOR CHRIST)have been giving their lives for the truth of Gods Word from the time Christ left the earth(Acts 1-9)till the time he comes back(Acts 1-11),but if you would believe these verses,then you wouldn't be at a Mass thinking your priest has just brought Christ out of heaven into a wafer so He can be sacrificed again. "once offered"not continued as you think it means
GG wrote: MH: "How in the world...right on Who God is?" MyResp: In my earlier response, I made it clear that all Christians (especially Catholics) know who God is. It is the moslems who have the problem in knowing him correctly.
GG If what you say about Catholics knowing who God is than they certainly should have denounced Islam as having a counterfeit, this they didn't do, THEREFORE I will stand by my statement that Roman Catholicism has NOT gotten it right on Who God is........and from that wrong foundation every teaching of the Roman Catholic Religion cannot be trusted either.
On the other hand everything that God Himself teaches in Scripture can be
Albert: What infallible proof do you have, none but the twisted bible quotes that don't mean what you insist that they do? SermonAudio serves my county, in my country we have the freedom to express ourselves where we please, within a few constraints. If Lance and I weren't here, you would die in your abject ignorance. If you are into dictionaries, look up the word 'faithful' for an adjective for witness. With over 33,000 Prot sects world-wide, somebody is 'making it up' as they go along.
Laurie: Thanks, but I can ask God to keep me on the right track without listening to error. I appreciate your concern.
MH: "How in the world...right on Who God is?" MyResp: In my earlier response, I made it clear that all Christians (especially Catholics) know who God is. It is the moslems who have the problem in knowing him correctly.
MH: "What makes...is Christ? MyResp: That Abraham gave Melchizadek, wine and bread to offer God. That the Israelite in Egypt were saved by eating the flesh of a lamb. That Jesus is the lamb of God. That Bethlehem means 'House of Bread'. That Jesus was born in a 'feeding trough'. That Jesus is a 'priest forever according to...Melchizadek. John 6. His words during the 'Last Supper'. The weight of evidence in on MY SIDE.
GG wrote: Whether the Moslems do or not is a minor point that frankly I could care less about.
PS- Christ said, that if YOU don't eat that lifeless piece of bread, then YOU can't have LIFE IN YOU! Not my words...his!
GG Minor Point? Well excuse me but I have to ask, "How in the world can your religion be right if you cannot even get it right on Who God is?"
Also just what makes you think your lifeless piece of bread you are eating is Christ? In eating it have you been changed by God and for God that you now love the Bible and live by what God Himself says in it, have you been baptised as a believing adult by immersion, have you taken a sledge hammer to your idols and do you know with certainty, not just hope so, that you have eternal life and will go immediately into the Lord's presence when you die? I seriously doubt that you do and somewhere deep down inside you are hiding from the fact that despite all your religious efforts to merit heaven you know quite well your are a prideful wretched lost sinner and will stand guilty and condemned in the day of judgment.
And you act like the Jews who rejected Christ in that you rail against those God has sent to you with the truth.
GG, if pride could get you into heaven you'd go but it won't.
albert wrote: btw,as a papist you should know that the word protestant is derived from the laten meaning"standing for a witness"and our Lord and Saviour said"ye shall be my witnesses"(Acts 1-8). Maybe now you will see that the protestant was arround long before the papish church of rome. We don't like to make up dogma as we go along.
GG, Would you consider listening to a sermon by Pastor Paul Washer available through this website? I recommend 'Who's slave are you?' or the sermon series entitled 'True Gospel'. Please, rather than arguing with others, make good use of your time and ask God to help you understand and know the truth, Jesus Christ is waiting for you to make the right choice...
GG just as we thought,not one infallible word of prof. With no prof from even the word of God,you should not come on this site talking about something you know nothing about. btw,as a papist you should know that the word protestant is derived from the laten meaning"standing for a witness"and our Lord and Saviour said"ye shall be my witnesses"(Acts 1-8). Maybe now you will see that the protestant was arround long before the papish church of rome We don't like to make up dogma as we go along
GG You should try Reading the bible,it tells you the first church was in jerusalem and the Brother Of our Lord was the leading elder(James)told Peter what to do and where to go. Funny why he wasn't called a pope or a priest,OH maybe its because we don't need any sacrificing priests anymore,seeing our great high priest is already in the Holy of Holies making Intersession for us If only you were born again,like Jesus says,then the Holy Spirit would lead you into all truth of the WORD Sure you don't even believe your papish ccc841
gg-Revelation 17:13-'These are of one mind, and they will give their power and authority to the beast.' Salvation isn't based on loyalty to any denomination, it is based on what the word of God says, Matthew 4:17-"Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." That means STOP SINNING!! Also John 3:3 "Unless one is born again, he CANNOT see the kingdom of God." This re-birth can only be granted by God. Matthew 18:3 Jesus again speaks, "Assuredly, I say to you, unless you are converted and become as little children, you will by NO MEANS enter the kingdom of heaven." If you choose to follow man-made laws and rituals, rather than seeking God's truth in His word, you will die and wake up on the wrong side of eternity, I encourage you to pray, asking God to open your understanding to His word...Luke 24:45 'And He opened their understanding, that they might comprehend the scriptures.'
GG I will ask you the same question I ask your papish friend. "Can you for once tell us what infallible prof you have for anyone being a saint in heaven including Mary".? Note your papish friend couldn't answer this question either . All he could do was give a confused answer of, they don't,they do but no prof
If the Word of God is fallible,pray tell us where Rev 12-17
There is NO TRUTH and certainly NO HISTORICAl record to back up your bald-faced falsehood about Baptists going back to the time of Christ. Unless you think John the Baptist was the first? It is NOT up to you to say that Catholic don't worship God. Whether the Moslems do or not is a minor point that frankly I could care less about. The Jews don't believe in Christ, do they worship the same God that we do? Let me remind your failing mind, that Catholics do not worship Mary or anyone but the Trinity, which if you will remember, concists of Father, the Son (Christ) and the Holy Spirit. I wish I could argue with honest folks for once, and not liars and charlatans.
PS- Christ said, that if YOU don't eat that lifeless piece of bread, then YOU can't have LIFE IN YOU! Not my words...his!
GG wrote: I realize that you are truth-challenged, but may I correct some of your many half-baked notions. Catholics and all other Christians worship the one true God.
GG Well Roman Catholics are NOT worshipping the One True God if they are worshipping the same god as the Muslims - and that is who your own beloved John Paul II has offically declared as part of Catholic belief.
Catholics are therefore NOT part of the Church Jesus Christ Himself founded.
Catholics are strangers to the Holy Spirit, the Spirit of Truth by the way, who would NEVER lead a born again child of God to worship Allah, or any other false god, including the Virgin Mary, the Roman Catholic imposter of the real Mary, nor the lifeless piece of bread (Eucharist) Catholics worship either.
How is that for NOT being "Truth-Challenged"
BTW Baptist types who accept Jesus Christ personally as Lord and Savior by faith, who believe the Scriptures are Truth, we gather together in His Name where Christ Himself is present (NOT A LIFELESS PIECE OF BREAD) in our midst, who baptize believers not infants, have been around since the time of Christ, and that is despite the efforts of Roman Catholic and others to exterminate us.
I realize that you are truth-challenged, but may I correct some of your many half-baked notions. Catholics and all other Christians worship the one true God. If anything, moslems worship our God, but like you, they have many serious errors in their understanding of him. Since your faith was founded by a man, after or during the Reformation, you are not able to realistically say that the person of Christ, actually founded your batch of Fundi's. The only faiths that can historically and truthfully say that is the RCC or at least the Greek O. Since Jesus promised that his Church would not fall to confusion and the gates of Hell, then that leaves the rest of you without a claim to Authority. Sorry, but it's true. 1 Time 3:15 directly challenges you notion of 'Sola Scriptura', it's the Church who guards the truth of the Scripture, not thousands of fanatics reading it for themselves.
GG wrote: MyResp: John 14:26, Matt 16:18. The RCC is the Church that Christ founded, if Christ guaranteed it would NEVER be defeated by Satan and if he further promised the H.S. to "lead it in all truth", then the RCC could NEVER become apostate or offend God. Further, 1 Tim 3:15 - "...the Church...the pillar and bulwark of truth". You should ask God for forgiveness for your many heretical beliefs and for fighting against his will and join with us as true Christians.
GG Since your precious Roman Catholic Church doesn't even get it right on who God truly is - ref to CCC 841 (you worship the same god as the Muslims)
There is NO Way it is the Church Jesus Christ founded.
There is NO Way it is the pillar and bullwark of Truth
And I will stand by my comment without apology to you or any other Roman Catholic that on the authority of the Holy Written Word of God the Roman Catholic religion is in serious sin against Jesus Christ and offensive to Him and add that Catholic people need to study the Holy Written word of God for themselves, humbly and prayerfully with a heart that wants to be obedient and pleasing to God that they might learn from God Himself what the Truth is and that Truth will set them free from those who have exploited them.
"If you can't find it in Gods Infallible Word,then you can't trust fallible man"
MyResp: Your problem here is 'Sola Scriptura', no where in the bible does it claim to have all the knowledge we need, some info was oral teaching, which was written down later.
"...2 kings22-20,Isa 63-16,they will show you that those in heaven cant know what is going on in earth."
Myresp: Before Jesus died, no righteous person went to heaven, what you describe is Sheol or the 'Bosom of Abraham'. Perhaps the rules are different there.
"How much more do you condemn youself for worshipping what you know not."
MyResp: Why should any Catholic condemn themselves for worshipping the one true God?
MH: "...where the Roman Catholic Religion is apostate disobedient and sinfully offensive to God."
MyResp: John 14:26, Matt 16:18. The RCC is the Church that Christ founded, if Christ guaranteed it would NEVER be defeated by Satan and if he further promised the H.S. to "lead it in all truth", then the RCC could NEVER become apostate or offend God. Further, 1 Tim 3:15 - "...the Church...the pillar and bulwark of truth". You should ask God for forgiveness for your many heretical beliefs and for fighting against his will and join with us as true Christians.