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FRONT PAGE  |  7/21/2017
SATURDAY, OCT 6, 2007  |  13 comments
Scandal brewing at Oral Roberts University
TULSA (AP) ‚ÄĒ Twenty years ago, televangelist Oral Roberts said he was reading a spy novel when God appeared to him and told him to raise $8 million for Roberts' university, or else he would be "called home."

Now, his son, Oral Roberts University President Richard Roberts, says God is speaking again, telling him to deny lurid allegations in a lawsuit that threatens to engulf this 44-year-old Bible Belt college in scandal.

Richard Roberts is accused of illegal involvement in a local political campaign and lavish spending at donors' expense, including numerous home remodeling projects, use of the university jet for his daughter's senior trip to the Bahamas, and a red Mercedes convertible and a Lexus SUV for his wife, Lindsay.

She is accused of dropping tens of thousands of dollars on clothes, awarding non-academic scholarships to friends of her children and sending scores of text messages on ...


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Michael Hranek | Endicott, New York  Find all comments by Michael Hranek
chuck from oak ridge wrote:
I have always tended to stay away from ministries that have "family members" on the board. No accountability! They could learn a few things from Bill Brights ministry or Billy Grahams. Pay yourself a salary with listed benefits and nothing more.
Chuck
Is that Oak Ridge Tennessee?

You are right they could learn a few things from Bill Bright's and Billy Graham's ministries - How to water down the gospel and be ecumenical.

Now let me ask you do you even know what I am writting of? Do you realize both Graham and Bright essentially betrayed Biblical Christianity with their ties to Roman Catholicism. Do you even know that Catholicism is not Christianity but a counterfeit with a different gospel and different Christ and blasphemous idolatry. Or does that make any difference to you?

If we really want to talk about scandal how about beginning with the ecumenism that has been destroying evangelical Christianity from the inside out and from the pulpits to the pews.

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News Item10/8/07 2:51 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
RhymnRzn2Zion, apparently another Robert that started babbling nonsense and hasn't stopped?

By the way, John MacArthur had some comments on Oral Sr., in the commentary,

"Does God Still Give Revelation Today?"

http://www.biblebb.com/files/MAC/CHAOS2.HTM

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News Item10/8/07 11:13 AM
RhymnRzn2Zion | Dayton, OH  Contact via emailFind all comments by RhymnRzn2Zion
Whosoever is wise knows WHO this word is speaking of.......

Ezekiel 21:21
"For the king of Babylon stood at the parting of the way, at the head of the TWO ways, TO USE DIVINATION: he made his arrows bright, he consulted with images, he looked in the liver."

I recall Rich Roberts describing his conversion experience: he said that when he was first filled with the Holy Spirit he began to speak in tongues with his head in his mother's lap.

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News Item10/7/07 8:33 PM
Fellow Saint  Find all comments by Fellow Saint
Kenny,
To me it's both a failure of the management of property, money, fame and employees and also exploitation as you pointed out. The Bible says the love of money is the root of evil and that's evident in what has happened at ORU. Just read the list of allegations. When people get their eyes set on the creature instead of Creator, things go amiss. It has apparently happened at ORU and has happened elsewhere too.
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News Item10/7/07 8:18 PM
tv head  Find all comments by tv head
What would happen if our churches were not tax-exempt?

Why do we go to the State for favors anyway?

Whould something like this happen to a non-tax-exempt church or school?

Could a non-tax-exempt church or school get this big?

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News Item10/7/07 5:09 PM
kenny  Find all comments by kenny
Fellow Saint said:

"Just one example of the mess people get into when they can't manage their property and employees or money and fame."

What?

This is not a case of mismanagement. This is another example of sinful covetousness and covetousness is idolotry. Worst of all, they are exploiting God and Scripture to accomplish their selfish goals.

It is absolutely frightening what goes on in the name of 'ministry'. No wonder the world looks on Christians with such contempt and disgust.

To many people, all they know of Christ is the falsehood and buffoonery that they see on TV. Then if they do somehow end up in a church somewhere, they are met with silly 'drama teams' that mimic the world's foolishness and inane 'praise bands' that sing me-centered rock songs that make women shake and wiggle. Then a sermon about self-esteem and/or 'having a love affair with Jesus'. What a mess.

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News Item10/7/07 4:44 PM
chuck from oak ridge  Find all comments by chuck from oak ridge
I have always tended to stay away from ministries that have "family members" on the board. No accountability! They could learn a few things from Bill Brights ministry or Billy Grahams. Pay yourself a salary with listed benefits and nothing more.
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News Item10/7/07 3:08 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
I would suggest everyone read the excellent article, a quotation from it,"Colleagues fear for the reputation of the university and the future of the Roberts' ministry, which grew from Southern tent revivals to one of the most successful evangelical empires in the country, hauling in tens of millions of dollars in contributions a year. The university reported nearly $76 million in revenue in 2005, according to the IRS."

The above word "evangelical" should be changed to "pentecostal", however.

Much evil comes from the poor biblical scholarship of charismatics/pentecostals.

http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?currSection=sermonssource&sermonID=21304173022

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News Item10/6/07 10:48 PM
Fellow Saint  Find all comments by Fellow Saint
Sad case. Just deplorable. Just one example of the mess people get into when they can't manage their property and employees or money and fame. In time however, we'll know who's being honest in the matter.
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News Item10/6/07 10:08 PM
Abigail | Oregon  Contact via emailFind all comments by Abigail
1Ti 6:10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

"Many sorrows" means eternal damnation if they do not repent!!

In the love of Jesus Christ our Lord
Abigail

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News Item10/6/07 7:33 PM
Dessie | WV  Find all comments by Dessie
All that have followed him and all like
him deserve exactly what they get. Of
course they will defend him just as
they have defended crooks and hirelings in the past..

His dad never fooled me even when I
was a child fifty years ago and as
'John from San Jose, Ca' said, we who
know the truth by the power of the
Holy Spirit will never be fooled by
these antichrists.....

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News Item10/6/07 1:24 PM
davey | finland  Find all comments by davey
Amen to that John....terv. davey
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News Item10/6/07 12:50 PM
John | San Jose, CA  Find all comments by John
Why am I not suprised?

This world and its wealth are more than
a match for any person not restrained
by the power of the holy spirit.

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