Years after creating a smattering of gay-related classes, more than two dozen American universities are now offering full-fledged minors in gay studies and expanding the field to include disciplines across the college curriculum.
Issues such as same-sex marriage and gays in the military have fueled interest in the programs, which have been established, among other places, at Ivy League institutions Yale and Cornell and DePaul University in Chicago, one of the nation's largest Catholic schools.
At least 30 public and private colleges now offer multidiscipline minors in gay studies, the majority of them started in the last three years. Another 16 schools let undergraduates earn certificates or pursue concentrated studies in gay topics....
Your Post "Philippians 2:13-It is God who works in you both TO WILL and TO DO of His good pleasure. It doesn't negate God's written word, as a matter of fact, it gives us the ability to actually live it. Again, all for His glory. Will you say before Christ, "I am glad I was able, of my own free will, to obey your Word"? I hope not or we might have to worship you too!"
When we receive the Holy Ghostâthe Spirit works in us both to will and to do. He leads and guides us by His Spirit into all truth. We can either reject His leading or follow. The Spirit gives us the ability to actually live the Word of God. All praises to God the Father and His Son Jesus Christ the Son through the Holy Ghost.
Everything we do, we make a choice. We choose our food, home, car, our day to day activities. We choose if and when we to go to church, if and when to read our Bible and pray. We choose to pay money to the church or spend it on ourselves. We choose to live our life in the flesh pleasing the five senses or follow the Lord Jesus Christ, denying self and taking up our cross following Him. It is God who works in you both to will and to do of His good pleasure by His Spiritâthe indwelling Holy Ghost.
Matthew 5:13 Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savor, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.
You do see that âYe Are The Saltâ donât you ??? -- The **salt** and **his** in this verse are one and the same (you, me or anyone who is *IN* Christ !!!
Lost his savor ??? - savor â μωραίνω - to become insipid; figuratively to make (passively act) as a simpleton: - become fool, make foolish, lose savor.
*insipid* means to be dull, bland, wishy-washy, characterless, etcâŠ
Your failure to TRULY SEE INTO GODâS WORD is quite apparent --- you are not BEING LED INTO ALL TRUTH --- you are leaning on your own understanding !!!
Here in Matthew 5:13 Christ is telling us about those who HAVE THE TRUTH *IN* Him --- BUT **IF** they move away from THE TRUTH **losing** their SAVOR (becoming men without CHARACTER who are nothing more than fools seek after foolish things -- acting as simpletons. --- These are those who are âgood for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of menâ.
Philippians 2:13 is merely saying that GOD WORKS *IN* us EMPOWERING us TO MAKE UP our minds to FOLLOW !!!
KK, "WHAT in THE NAME OF HELL AND ALL THE DEMONS THEREOF HAVE YOU COME UP WITH ??? --- YOUR CONCLUDING DISCOURSE NEGATES THE NECESSITY FOR ADHERENCE TO GOD'S WORD". No it doesn't! Philippians 2:13-It is God who works in you both TO WILL and TO DO of His good pleasure. It doesn't negate God's written word, as a matter of fact, it gives us the ability to actually live it. Again, all for His glory. Will you say before Christ, "I am glad I was able, of my own free will, to obey your Word"? I hope not or we might have to worship you too!
Your Post #1 Abigail, "All of the "IF'S" tell us that those are requirements for salvation." Then you are calling God a liar because He has said in His Word that salvation is BY GRACE. That means it is a gift without any strings attached. It requires nothing on our part to earn it or to keep it."
Your Post #2 Abigail, what was your point in posting all of those verses? âŠEvery aspect of salvation is a gift from God, beginning with regeneration, being made spiritually alive so that we can respond to the offer of salvation through the faith that God has given to us. Salvation is ALL of God and NONE of man. ____
My point is that you said that salvation is a gift **without any strings attached**. In other words, there is nothing for us to do but sit back and Jesus Christ is going to save us and carry us to heaven without any effort on our part.
He does His part only when we do our part. He answers prayer when we fervently pray according to His will. He saves us when we humble ourselves at the foot of the Cross, accepting His atoning blood, repenting and seeking forgiveness of our sins. All of His promises carry conditions. Salvation costs us our allâcrucifixion of the old nature. God does not accomplish that without our participation and cooperation.
Cbcpreacher wrote: ...in and of ourselves, we can do nothing. Every aspect of salvation is a gift from God, beginning with regeneration, being made spiritually alive so that we can respond to the offer of salvation through the faith that God has given to us. Salvation is ALL of God and NONE of man. ... Salvation is monergistic (God, and God alone), not synergistic (God's help along with our attempts). That way, God receives all of the glory!
WHAT IN THE NAME OF HELL AND ALL THE DEMONS THEREOF HAVE YOU COME UP WITH ??? --- YOUR CONCLUDING DISCOURSE NEGATES THE NECESSITY FOR ADHERENCE TO GOD'S WORD
Shall we throw out GOD'S WORD OR SOW TO IT ???
Can't you SEE the antithesis of your own thought ???
Your synopsis of GOD AND HIS GIFT OF SALVATION and mans responsibility therein is so far off...
in and of ourselves, **we** can do nothing ???
being made spiritually alive so that **we** can respond ???
**we** MUST RESPOND !!!
Can't you SEE that it's "A Matter of The Heart" ???
AN ENLIGHTENED CHOICE IS MADE WHEN **we** RESPOND -- **we** MAKE AN INFORMED CHOOSE TO FOLLOW GOD, *IN* CHRIST, *BY* HIS SPIRIT INTO ALL TRUTH or **we** SOW to the flesh... SEE Gal 6:8
Abigail, what was your point in posting all of those verses? Yes, the Bible says we must repent, but repentance is also part of the gift that comes with the faith that we are given. As has been pointe out to you, in and of ourselves, we can do nothing. Every aspect of salvation is a gift from God, beginning with regeneration, being made spiritually alive so that we can respond to the offer of salvation through the faith that God has given to us. Salvation is ALL of God and NONE of man. It is God's grace that draws us to Himself as He, by His Spirit, opens our spiritual understanding of our need for Christ. This awakening (resurrection, if you will) comes from God, the call comes from God, the faith to respond comes from God. Salvation is monergistic (God, and God alone), not synergistic (God's help along with our attempts). That way, God receives all of the glory!
It seems that there are many people attending Churches today who say "I LOVE THE TRUTH", but in their hearts they are saying "JUST NOT ALL OF IT".
On the whole we have become a people who love many things about Church --- i.e. -- visiting with one another, having meals together, Church functions A to Z, etc... and that is all good and well, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO TRUTH (???) THAT'S ANOTHER STORY...
Why is America experiencing moral degradation ??? -- Because "We" have become so proficient at trading-off "TRUTH" for compromise thereby softening THE SPIRIT OF THE WORD AND MAKING IT of none effect... (*QUINCHING THE SPIRIT OF GOD*).
The aforementioned in conjunction with all the godless propaganda "We" are bombarded with on a daily basis is DEADENING "Our" MORAL SENSES bringing "Us" to ruination !!!
WHAT IS TRUTH ???
WHO AMONG "Us" HAS TRUTH ???
AND WHAT'S THE SOURCE OF THAT TRUTH ???
TODAY truth IS RELATIVE --- IT'S "WHATEVER WORKS FOR YOU"... this is the mind-set behind all these Hell-bent agendas today...
It's an ill-advised notion that "We" as a Nation should conform THE SOCIAL FABRIC OF AMERICA judging in comparison to that of other Nations LEAVING THE FOUNDATIONAL TRUTHS OF "Our" Founding Fathers Who WARNED "Us" of The DANGER of *forgetting* GOD !!!
Study carefully the following Scriptures. They plainly state that we will receive eternal life by continuance in well doing, but if we fail to repent and remain hard and impenitent, we will receive God's wrath at the day of His righteous judgment. God will render to every man according to his deedsâgood, eternal lifeâunrighteousness, eternal punishment.
Rom 2:4 Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the GOODNESS OF GOD LEADETH THEE TO REPENTANCE?
5 But after thy HARDNESS AND IMPENITENT HEART TREASUREST UP UNTO THYSELF WRATH AGAINST THE DAY OF WRATH AND REVELATION OF THE RIGHTEOUS JUDGMENT OF GOD;
6 WHO WILL RENDER TO EVERY MAN ACCORDING TO HIS DEEDS.
7 To them who by PATIENT CONTINUANCE IN WELL DOING seek for GLORY AND HONOR AND IMMORTALITY, ETERNAL LIFE:
8 But unto them that are CONTENTIOUS, AND DO NOT OBEY THE TRUTH, BUT OBEY UNRIGHTEOUSNESS, indignation and wrath,
9 Tribulation and anguish, upon EVERY SOUL OF MAN THAT DOETH EVIL, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;
10 But glory, honor, and peace, to EVERY MAN THAT WORKETH GOOD, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:
Abigail wrote: How much clearer could it be that we must obey our Lord.
The Battlefield Antinomians call themselves Fundamentalists, but hand off most of the Bible as written to the "Jews only" and pick and choose from a few puny Pauline epistles to construct a doctrine that suits them. Why bother to be KJO when they nullify most of the Bible anyway?
IFBs like to make themselves literal priests in the home, where many "purify" their wives by reading scripture to them and keeping them in abject subjection by force and abuse.
They twist and wrest Scripture to the extreme, as the RCs do, to demonstrate their "superior" faith in believing the "literal word of God."
But truly, most of what they believe can be found in their Scofield Bible footnotes.
IFBs usually have a dominating pastor, and the people swallow every word he says. IFB pastors get their doctrine from Judaizing seminaries like Liberty Baptist. All Baptist seminaries, bar none, are corrupted by Dispensationalism and Pre-trib rapturism.
If a man starts an IFB church without attending seminary, he still swallows the same heresies.
IFB Baptist churches are no better than any of the other apostatized churches, and in some ways much worse.
Your Post How do you reconcile these verses that we have to work for our salvation? "Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. But to him that worketh not, but believe on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness." If you can't understand those clear bibical truths and want to continue to argue with the scriptures, there is nothing further for me to say. ____
Why do you take those verses and ignore the rest of the New Testament? Scriptures are not contradictory, but compliment each other. Ignoring other scriptures is toying with salvation.
1) God is going to take vengaence on all that don't obey the gospel of Christ. In FLAMING FIRE TAKING VENGEANCE on them that know not God, and that OBEY NOT THE GOSPEL OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST: (II Thes 1:8)
2) The Holy Ghostâwhich is the rebirthâis given only to those that obey Him. And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the HOLY GHOST, whom God hath GIVEN TO THEM THAT OBEY HIM. (Acts 5:32)
3) Jesus Christ is the author of eternal salvation only to them that obey Him. And being made perfect, he became the AUTHOR OF ETERNAL SALVATION UNTO ALL THEM THAT OBEY HIM; (Heb 5:9)
How much clearer could it be that we must obey our Lord.
Your Post "âŠIf all one has is a date and a signed card then I tremble." _____
We must have an experience with God that brings life-transformationâa born-again experience. God changes the heart if we sincerely seek Him with a repentant heart that desires above all else to follow Him at any cost. God is not a cheap toy that can be manipulated with tears of an insincere heart. A broken heart and contrite spirit, He will not despise. If we don't continue in our devotion and sincerity, we draw back and God has no pleasure in us. (Heb 10:38)
Heb 12:25 See that ye refuse not him that speaketh. For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth, much more shall not we escape, if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven:
26 Whose voice then shook the earth: but now he hath promised, saying, Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven.
27 And this word, Yet once more, signifieth the removing of those things that are shaken, as of things that are made, that those things which cannot be shaken may remain.
28 Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:
Your Post "Abigail, you said "they teach that no one is to judge another and Christians do not want to confront sinners." I whole-heartedly agree, and will go one further. Not only is the Law, sin and judgment not preached in many churches today, but simply stating one's beliefs to other professing Christians often reaps more enemies and vitriol than is imaginable. Nevertheless, we are told to count the cost." ______
Amen to your Post.
Preachers are educated in theology in such a manner that they are construing the Word of God to only a shallow interpretation instead of the depth of the state of the sinful heart and the process for getting to the root of the nature of sin. Jesus Christ said it allâbut His teachings are ignored and counted as foolishness to those that are wise in the wisdom of man.
Abigail, you said "they teach that no one is to judge another and Christians do not want to confront sinners." I whole-heartedly agree, and will go one further. Not only is the Law, sin and judgment not preached in many churches today, but simply stating one's beliefs to other professing Christians often reaps more enemies and vitriol than is imaginable. Nevertheless, we are told to count the cost.
There seems to be so much shallowness in the "church" today that that word "few" in Mat 7:14 begins to come much more into focus, at least for me. Ignorance of Biblical doctrine seems to be rampant and yet those who know the least (or are so proud they never think they could possibly be wrong on anything) seem to proclaim what they don't know the loudest and in the most obnoxious manner.
One thing is for sure, most of us have no real grasp of the sinfullness of sin. We point to this sin or that sin as being "the worst" (and it's usually one we think we haven't done--not truly grasping that sin is a matter of the heart), thus minimizing OUR involvement because we never did THAT. ALL sin is hideous and we are ALL guilty of grievously offending God. If we spent more time contemplating that thought and less time bickering, I think we'd probably all be a whole lot better off.
Wayne wrote: Obvious Truth Try 'IF saved always saved' A true work of grace will be performed until the day of Christ and there will be evidence!
This is NOT what the Bible says. BTW there is absolutely no difference between If Saved Always Saved, and Once Saved Always Saved.
Getting saved is easy. You just open the door and invite Jesus in. He has promised never to turn anybody down, nobody.
Maybe your mother and daughter never got off the launching pad because they started hearing all the dry doctrines, lies about how God was going to do it all and they had nothing to fear, so they quenched, grieved and insulted the Holy Spirit away, failed to work out their own salvation with fear and trembling.
Fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom, and you are teaching people to treat God like a big nothing, teaching people to be Antinomian fatalist bowls of Jello, people who say, okay, I'm not going to worry, because God will do it and I don't want to try to be working my way to Heaven.
These Antinomian blobs of jello, similar to the first example in the parable of the sower, loved a lie. Some of them go on to frantically preach this wicked heresy, thinking that if they can convince others maybe it will make it true for them too.
'Once Saved Always Saved is no different than Anton Lavey's teaching of Do As Thou Wilt.'
That is an unwise comment. Try 'IF saved always saved' and look at the following link as an example:
As you castigated me for making a point about repeating the sinner's prayer consider it is often those who have done no more than give mental ascent to the gospel and repeated a prayer as instructed in a time of great emotionalism and often easy believism- fire escape from hell- live as you please thereafter. THIS is not God's salvation. I have a mother who went forward at Billy Graham and repeated a sinner's prayer with tears...BUT SHE IS NOT SAVED. A daughter who sat on a godly man's knee at the age of 6 and wept until his shirt was wet through and repeating a prayer. From that day to this (she is now 23) there is no evidence of the work of Christ. She admits such. The problem is with those who say: well you ONCE called upon the Lord so you are saved-look you signed this card? Do they presume to substitute the witness of the holy Spirit Romans 8: 15,16?
A true work of grace will be performed until the day of Christ and there will be evidence! If all one has is a date and a signed card then I tremble.
Once Saved Always Saved is no different than Anton Lavey's teaching of
Do As Thou Wilt.
You people are saying avoid trying to try to do good, don't even try, because if you try that means you are "working," and that means you don't have faith in Jesus, you're trying to "work your way to Heaven," trusting in yourself rather than Jesus, and you may as well be an RC.
So that means you just get blown around by whatever impulse hits you, because you don't want to control what you do in any way. That would mean WORKS, and WORKS ARE BAD, BAD, BAD. No works. Kill the works.
So how is this any different than what Anton Lavey says in his Satanic Bible:
WHEN we LOOK AT THE FULL EMBODIMENT OF GOD'S WORD --- HAVING COME INTO A PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP ***WITH GOD *IN* CHRIST *BY* HIS SPIRIT*** --- we FIND THAT we ARE BEING LED INTO ALL TRUTH --- AND BEING LED NECESSITATES our CONSCIOUS AND DELIBERATE CHOICE TO FOLLOW !!! --- IT IS AN INNER WORK OF THE HEART ***THAT MANIFESTS ITSELF*** IN AN OUTWARD ACT --- THIS IS PROOF THAT we HAVE RECEIVED THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE TRUTH ***AND HAVE UNDERSTOOD THAT WHICH we HAVE RECEIVED*** WITH A RECEPTIVE LOVING HEART OF OBEDIENCE FOR THE TRUTH !!!
WISDOM IS THE RESULT OF ***KNOWLEDGE BEING UNDERSTOOD*** AND ACTED UPON !!! -- WHEN we UNDERSTAND we MUST CHOOSE TO OBEY or disobey THAT WHICH HAS BEEN UNDERSTOOD !!!
It's "A Matter of The Heart" -- HAVING RECEIVED GOD'S SPIRIT OF TRUTH (**THE POWER OF GOD THAT GIVES us UNDERSTANDING**) we ARE BEING LED INTO ALL TRUTH AND we ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE TRUTH we HAVE RECEIVED -- we MUST CHOOSE WHAT we WILL SOW TO...
Galations 6:8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap *corruption*; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap LIFE EVERLASTING.
John 6:63 It is the Spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are Spirit, and they are LIFE.
Your post: "... that salvation is BY GRACE. That means it is a gift without any strings attached. It requires nothing on our part to earn it or to keep it." ______
And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. (Mat 3:2)
From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. (Mat 4:17)
But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses. (Mat 6:15)
I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish. (Luke 13:33)
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. (Acts 2:38)
Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord; (Acts 3:19)
And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent: (Acts 17:30)
But showed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance. (Acts 26:20)