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TUESDAY, SEP 4, 2007  |  22 comments
Pope Urges Young to Care for Planet
LORETO, Italy (AP) - The planet risks irreversible decline from environmentally unsustainable development, Pope Benedict XVI warned Sunday, urging young Catholics to take the lead in caring for the Earth and its precious resources.

During an open-air Mass on the final day of a weekend religious youth rally that drew about 500,000 people to the town of Loreto, Italy's most important shrine dedicated to the Virgin Mary, Benedict said the world's water supply particularly needed to be preserved and shared equitably to avoid conflicts.

The Loreto meeting organized by the Italian bishops' conference carried a strong environmental message. Participants were given biodegradable plates, recycling bags for their trash and a hand- cranked cell-phone recharger. ...

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News Item9/10/07 2:51 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Michael, as I believed as I pointed out earlier, read, "How do Romanist obtain indugences?" (Number 147 on the list)

Some Catholics on here are just here for the perversion of Protestants.

Mike Gendron who was a Catholic for 30 years, and is now a Baptist minister tries to reach out to Catholics in such articles as,"Why Do Catholics Reject The Words of Jesus?"


"Pride Blinds Catholics from the Truth"

Now the above site is really related to the activities of a famous Arminian --not Mike Gendron-- but you might want to look over the material and see if you can find the same material elsewhere, Michael. You can pray for "our three musketeers," but they have heard the truth for so long that I don't hold out much hope for them, they are truly in God's hands. However, there are other Catholics who may not have been exposed to truth, and they may be receptive to it.


News Item9/7/07 11:28 PM
Michael Hranek | Endicott, New York  Protected NameFind all comments by Michael Hranek
Others who long to see Cahtolics saved

We've about argued ourselves blue in the face with Lance and his 'friends'. May I make a suggestion for us that since Roman Catholics only view their sins as bad enought to deserve Purgatory and never quite see them as actually so vile against God that they deserve the eternal hell and no amount of human suffering they could do would ever make themselves good enough to stand acceptable to God....

Let's agree together in prayer for them that the Holy Spirit would bring heart gripping conviction and sorrow of how truly guilty and without excuse they are in their sins against Christ, the...godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of.

May God pour out on us the spirit of grace and of supplication for them in our praying as I really don't think this is any longer a matter of whether or not they are willing to listen to God but one in which only He can so deal with them in their rebellion against Him and their pride in their false religion to humble them and bring them to forsake the evil they have loved and love the truth they have hated.


News Item9/7/07 7:26 PM
Pete1  Find all comments by Pete1
Lance: We can never have any real debate, because of your tradition. I speak biblical truth, you speak tradition. Truth remains the same, tradition changes. Debating with tradition is like wrestling an aeomeba. I'll stick to truth, you can stick to salt water.

I pray that that I live to see the day, when you repent and believe that Jesus is Lord, and give up your nonsense. This goes for GG too and all of my family that are lost in the devil's web of RCC traditions.


News Item9/7/07 5:41 PM
Lance Eccles | Goulburn NSW  Contact via emailFind all comments by Lance Eccles
Yes, Jim, I read them. Peter1's comments too.

It just shows the erroneous way Sola Scriptura people think.


News Item9/7/07 2:27 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Michael good comments, I hope Lance reads them.

No, Lance, you take Jesus like a pagan.

Scapular=fetish (or as it was spelled in 1913)


{ fetichism /fe¬ītich¬∑ism/, Fetishism /Fe¬ītish¬∑ism/ (? or ?); 277), n. }[Cf. F. f√©tichisme.] [Written also feticism.] 1. The doctrine or practice of belief in fetiches.
2. Excessive devotion to one object or one idea; abject superstition; blind adoration.
The real and absolute worship of fire falls into two great divisions, the first belonging rather to fetichism, the second to polytheism proper. Tylor."

"Are We Really Catholic Bashing?"


News Item9/7/07 9:50 AM
Michael Hranek | Endicott, New York  Protected NameFind all comments by Michael Hranek

our Roman Catholic "friend"
Jim, sorry to disappoint you. I guess I take to heart Jesus' words: "Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of heaven as a little child, he shall not enter therein. " (Mark 10:15)
end of quote

Apparently doesn't want to face the reality that any child, boy or girl, who honestly reads the Bible for themself will have no trouble seeing that Jesus Christ who God Himself clearly identifies in Scripture is irreconcilably different from the baby jesus needs his momma and in your accurate observation notions and potions too.

Could it be that Lance falsely imagines that a child is someone who naively believes everything the Roman Catholic Religion gives them even when it openly goes against what God Himself says to us in Scripture?

As to children I remember a very significant event when a little girl accidentally took a candy bar without paying for it from a store and literally wept tears over being a thief and didn't have peace until her Mother took her to the store to make it right. If Lance or any other Catholic wants to throw in our face the notion of being like a child this is the kind of broken hearted repentance they should have regarding their sin in believing in and practising their false religion.


News Item9/7/07 9:37 AM
Peter1  Find all comments by Peter1
Lance: You said "Of course, I realize that these are shocking "superstitions" to the rationalist mind."

1. they are not shocking. I hear about this kind of foolery every day.

2. Your mary is not "my Lady" but simply a lure of the devil to keep RCs eyes off of the Christ (I won't bite)

3. You said epiphany water is "more powerful than holy water"
How can that be? why doesn't everybody have some? why don't you get on tv and sell it to the unsuspecting?

4. I have a regenerated mind and "Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error"

5. How is it that Jesus Christ can be so insufficient in your religion? That you need notions and potions and incantations? Those that practice witchcraft use similar methods in their religion

5. No wonder you are unwilling to speak to me about your gospel

Shame on you. Repent and Believe!!!


News Item9/6/07 6:35 PM
Lance Eccles | Goulburn NSW  Contact via emailFind all comments by Lance Eccles
Jim, sorry to disappoint you. I guess I take to heart Jesus' words: "Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of heaven as a little child, he shall not enter therein. " (Mark 10:15)

And Peter1, there are many instances of miraculous conversions of heart through the Miraculous Medal. The most famous being that of the 19th-century Jewish non-believer Alphonse Ratisbonne, who, through the intercession of Our Lady, underwent a sudden and unexpected conversion.

And you mentioned salt in your original posting. I just remembered -- there is salt in the Epiphany water I keep in my bedroom. Epiphany water is like holy water, but it is blessed at Epiphany and is said to be more powerful. It's a custom more of the Eastern Church than the Western.

Of course, I realize that these are shocking "superstitions" to the rationalist mind.


News Item9/6/07 2:37 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Ah, Lance, in the past I admired your apparent intellectualism, but apparently I was wrong.

"Mary Worship?"


"Purgatory (142-159)"

I would suggest Protestants read 147 for their enlightment.

"Ex Catholic Now A Missionary"


News Item9/6/07 7:17 AM
Peter1  Find all comments by Peter1
Lance: How is your medal "miraculous"? Was it made in a miraculous way? or does it perform miracles? Has it ever worked?

Luke 11:29 ...This is an evil generation: they seek a SIGN; and there shall no sign be given it, but the sign of Jonas the prophet.

Also, by your "flute" I meant "recorder" I'm sure a wooden god would like being played to by another piece of wood.


News Item9/5/07 6:02 PM
Lance Eccles | Goulburn NSW  Contact via emailFind all comments by Lance Eccles
True, Peter1, water supply will be linked to "global warming" (for those who believe in "global warming" theory). But in the meantime, lack of water supply means some people's lives are quite dreadful.

Not sure about the flute, but I always wear my scapular -- and miraculous medal too. Except when I have a bath.


News Item9/5/07 4:24 PM
Abigail | Oregon  Find all comments by Abigail
Jim Lincoln

Your Post
"No, Abigail, His Unholiness, if he were a Christian minister, has little or nothing to say about use of natural resources."

I was not thinking of the Pope and his environmental involvement when I made the statement about the wealthy wanting the little guy to do all the sacrificing.

However, you are right! His Unholiness has little or nothing to say about the use of natural resources."

In the love of Jesus Christ our Lord


News Item9/5/07 2:15 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
No, Abigail, His Unholiness, if he were a Christian minister, has little or nothing to say about use of natural resources.
"Psalms 8
6 Thou hast made him to rule over the works of thy hands; thou hast put everything under his feet:
Hebrews 2
8 thou hast subjected all things under his feet. For in subjecting all things to him, he has left nothing unsubject to him. But now we see not yet all things subjected to *him*,
James 3
7 For every species both of beasts and of birds, both of creeping things and of sea animals, is tamed and has been tamed by the human species;"

I really didn't mind His Unholiness making the Vatican "green." I was rather disgusted when Reagan took off the solar panels that Jimmy Carter had on the White House. We know the Pope is an old goose-stepper, but I didn't know that he joined the Green Party. The politicians and the scientists can comment on the environment -- that's their job.


News Item9/5/07 1:44 PM
Abigail | Oregon  Find all comments by Abigail
"The Loreto meeting organized by the Italian bishops' conference carried a strong environmental message. Participants were given biodegradable plates, recycling bags for their trash and a hand- cranked cell-phone recharger. ..."

As long as there is greed and lust for material wealth, the planet will continue to be raped. The wealthy and those in power are the prime offenders because of their greed and lavish lifestyle. They want the populace to protect the environment in ways that sound reasonable‚ÄĒwhich in reality, are only the tip of the iceberg. Industry, manufacturing, packaging, government waste‚ÄĒare the gargantuan environmental destroyers. They want the little guy to do what they refuse to do.

Yes, we should do our part.

Rev 11:18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

In the love of Jesus Christ our Lord


News Item9/5/07 1:03 PM
SB  Find all comments by SB
I would like to say goodbye to all on this forum. I will no longer visit or post here. There is very little edifying and exhorting, but much argueing, name calling, division, and confusion. I started posting here simply because I saw a comment being made by a Roman Catholic defending their church. I being a former catholic, wishing to point them toward the truth, responded to their comments hoping that they might see the Truth of the Scripture and be saved from false religion as I was.

I soon found myself being a part of the same argumentive, name calling spirit that is prevalent on this forum, and I do not want to continue in it.

Good Bye, and I will continue to pray for you all.


News Item9/5/07 12:17 PM
Michael Hranek | Endicott, New York  Protected NameFind all comments by Michael Hranek
Wow! What a thought for the apparition of Mary(actually a demonic imposter of Mary) to get in on. "She" could appear to a bunch of tree huggers and tell them to say the Rosary to "her" to save the environment! Since that is so environmental why even the godless government schools could get in on the business and they could probably call her 'Our (not mine) lady of the Rainforest etc.'

News Item9/5/07 9:19 AM
Peter1  Find all comments by Peter1
Lance: "water supply" will ultimately be linked to global warming. Have you thought about visiting mary's shrine and bringing your flute? Maybe a statue made of wood would like to be venerated with a piece of wood. Oh yea, wear your scapular too. And don't forget the salt.

News Item9/4/07 11:59 PM
Mark M | GA in UsA  Contact via emailFind all comments by Mark M
I don't go in for all that hippie tree-hugging mumbo jumbo, but we are called to be stewards of the Earth. In that regard, generally speaking, we are abysmal failures. I'm not saying to go get an electric car or whatnot, but simple things like wasting paper and using so many plastic bags (a big problem in the USA) for groceries is trashing the planet for no reason.

News Item9/4/07 11:45 PM
Some truth from the papacy  Find all comments by Some truth from the papacy
He certainly is right to tell people to care for the resources God has created for us. Destroyers of the earth will be paid back in the same manner.(Revelation 11:18).

News Item9/4/07 11:36 PM
Lance Eccles | Goulburn NSW  Contact via emailFind all comments by Lance Eccles
Peter1, the pope said nothing about global warming.

But ignorant secularist reporters seized upon the few words they understood in the pope's speech.

In some reports it was even said that the pope's green vestments were an environmental statement. (laugh!) How's that for ignorance?

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