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TUESDAY, JUN 19, 2007  |  21 comments
Vatican issues 10 Commandments for drivers
VATICAN CITY (AP) ‚ÄĒ The Vatican on Tuesday issued a set of "Ten Commandments" for drivers, telling motorists not to kill, not to drink and drive, and to help fellow motorists in the case of accidents.

A document from the Vatican's office for migrants and itinerant people also warned that automobiles can be "an occasion of sin" ‚ÄĒ particularly when they are used for particularly dangerous passing.


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News Item6/21/07 2:16 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Ah, but, G.G, the Roman Catholic Church problem with idols is well documented, as I pointed out before, I believe this commentary by a former nun, "The Infant of Prague is an example of the extent to which veneration of images can be taken. It is a statue of Jesus as a baby. It is kept in a church in Prague, Czechoslovakia. Miracles are attributed to this statue. Pilgrims come from around the world to venerate it. The statue wears expensive clothing and a gold crown set with jewels. It has 70 different sets of clothes. In 1995 it was carried in solemn procession through the streets of Prague. The procession was led by two cardinals. Churches in many countries have replicas of this statue."

http://www.catholicconcerns.com/Idolatry.html

She covers various forms of idolatry in the Roman Catholic Church very well. Ah, putting money into the heretical Church of Rome? Have you looked at the HAND OF GOD program of PBS, which is on the Internet? This gives some good reasons why not to put money in this criminal organization not only for horrific sexual sins but for others as well.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/handofgod/view/

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News Item6/21/07 11:34 AM
Mike | mex  Find all comments by Mike
GG,
It's not the same thing in the least bit. You are clouded and blinded by your own beliefs and false teachings. The RC's here do not give out of love for Christ. They give out of fear.
I remember the day that I preached on this in depth about two years ago and people who had come from many Pentecostal/Charismatic works here were astounded. I have never taken one peso from the offerings here GG. It all goes for the rent of our building and things that the church believes that it needs for the ministry. I do not make any financial decisions whatsoever. So, the people are not giving to me.
I would agree that many Charismatic/Pentecostal/and RC groups here just are in it for the money. The stories that our church people told me of what the church leaders would do with the money (in all three groups, not just the RC's) are absolutely abominable.
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News Item6/21/07 11:28 AM
GG  Find all comments by GG
So...why is it ok for your people to give to you? Which, I gather, you say is a good thing. But, for Catholics to do the same according to their notion of giving, its is some kind of perverted pyramid scan. Be consistent, be fair, and even handed, or else hold your tongue.
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News Item6/21/07 11:11 AM
Mike | mex  Find all comments by Mike
No I do not insist that people give a tithe GG. I preach grace giving--every man as he purposes in his heart and as the Lord hath prospered him. If that person desires to give 1%, then let him give it. If that person desires to give 50%, then let him give it. The whole giving issue is a question of love--He who has been forgiven much, loves much (and normally gives much--perhaps much for that person, while not much for another. He who has been forgiven little, loves little (and will give little.)
We should also remember that he who sows sparingly shall reap sparingly and he who sows bountifully shall reap bountifully. We don't give to get from God, but it's a truism that if someone is trusting God with their finances in giving, the Lord will meet their needs--also provided that they are following His principles in the handling of their finances.
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News Item6/21/07 9:18 AM
GG  Find all comments by GG
Eutychus: "Ya think?"

Mike of NY: Thank you. You are very kind to say so. That is a good thing...I hope? Should I see a doctor?

Mex Mike: Well the truth ain't hurting me. I'm sure your people are good folks. I'm sure the Catholic Church in Mexico could use some reform. The people don't give their money to the Church for beatiful buildings, they give it to their God. Re-read the story about Jesus and the jar of expensive ointment. At any rate the buildings aren't in Rome, they are in Mexico where the people are. If it were up to me, I wouldn't put a heavy burden on people, but we don't insist that people pay tithes, only what they can afford. Do you insist on a tithe?

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News Item6/20/07 10:04 PM
Eutychus  Find all comments by Eutychus
GG: You will be happy to know that I went to Merriam-Webster to see if you had a legitimate reason to use the word "dim" in connection with the name "Jim". I found that it may be properly used as an adjective meaning: "not perceiving clearly and distinctly." However, I would encourage you to somehow clarify that that is what you mean, or the public at large may acccidentally come to the conclusion that you mean something like, well, you know, (dim-witted). And that wouldn't be nice.
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News Item6/20/07 8:32 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
One thing I'll say for you, Colonel. You got catechismo.
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News Item6/20/07 6:56 PM
Mex | Mike  Find all comments by Mex
Sorry GG, the truth hurts. Ye should learn the truth, because if you learned the truth, it would set you free also. The people who have been saved in our church here are incredible (Actually, they aren't incredible, but God's power is incredible and it's an incredible thing to behold them depend on God in all things in the face of incredible difficulties. When God changes someone and saves them, He really does it.)
When I see all the poverty here and how many people have given what they don't have to build these churches that are ornate and full of gold, yes, it makes me upset. The RCC has lied to these people for years, but again, they are of their father the devil and the lusts of their father they will do. He is a liar and murderer and that is what the RCC is to it's people--lies and murders them in that it will take them all to the second death except they repent and believe the true gospel.
JP2 came here 5 times and the people bowed down and worshiped him each time. He had the chance then to tell them that their catechists and priests were doing a terrible job if what they have learned wasn't right. Did he do it? Not once.
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News Item6/20/07 6:50 PM
GG  Find all comments by GG
You know there are two other possibilities, besides the one that is so dear to your heart, namely that the RCC goes around teaching idolatry to poor simple pleasants. 1)-That I was taught by good cathecist, who knew their stuff, and your friends got slobs who didn't know Catholicism from Chinese Checkers. 2)- That the new members of your church are telling you what you want to believe. Or maybe you taught them that they should hate their old church and they dreamt up false accusations just to condemn their old faith and please you. At any rate, to conclude that I lied about any of this, is wishful thinking on your part. Believe what you like...it would have been the worst...no matter what the truth was. We won't be getting justice and fair treatment from Prots any day soon.
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News Item6/20/07 5:43 PM
Mex | Mike  Find all comments by Mex
GG,
If the Roman Catholics in Mexico were taught not to worship those idols, then they wouldn't worship them. I ask people in our church all the time who are ex-roman catholics and they tell me that they did pray to and worship those things. You are the liar in this, not me or others who tell the truth. They also tell me that that is what they are taught to do. So, who will I believe? GG, who tells me what his church doesn't teach, or people who tell me what their church really did teach and does teach those whose eyes the god of this world hath blinded?
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News Item6/20/07 5:18 PM
GG  Find all comments by GG
If Moses can use a brass Serpent and not sin, then we can use icons, statues and images too, provided that we don't worship them, which we are taught not to. Be honest, you would accuse us of sin, even if we were perfect...your persecution isn't about doing God's will, but about collecting converts.
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News Item6/20/07 3:03 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
My, My, G.G., thanks for reminding me about that bronze serpent!

(AV) (with Webster's 1825 comments)
2Kings 18
4 He removed the high places, and brake the images, and cut down the groves, and brake in pieces the brasen serpent that Moses had made: for unto those days the children of Israel did burn incense to it: and he called it Nehushtan. {images: Heb. statues} {Nehushtan: that is, A piece of brass}

The Geneva Bible Commentaries,"That is "a piece of brass": thus he calls the serpent by contempt, which even though it was set up by the word of God, and miracles were wrought by it, when it was used for idolatry this good king destroyed it, not thinking it worthy to be called a serpent, but a piece of brass."

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News Item6/20/07 3:00 PM
Patrick Hamilton | UK  Find all comments by Patrick Hamilton
Newsflash,

Vatican issues 10 Commandments to priests about abusing children.

Why does the Vatican issue commands to the people but not to themselves.

(Mat 23:27) Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.
(Mat 23:28) Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.

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News Item6/20/07 11:55 AM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
As in soteriology, the Vatican complicates what is simple. Preserving the life & property of fellow men, as part of driving, is already implied by the 6th & 8th Commandments, respectively.

Funny that the Pontifical Council for the Pastoral Care of Migrants & Itinerant People is saying this. I thought their real job is to ensure that holy shrines are accessible & to undermine immigration laws that hinder expansion of the RCC.

www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/migrants/index.htm

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News Item6/20/07 9:04 AM
Patrick Hamilton | UK  Find all comments by Patrick Hamilton
What a lot of rubbish comes from the Vatican. Do they ever read the words of our Lord and Saviour. I quote:

(Mar 7:7) Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

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News Item6/19/07 5:05 PM
Mike | Mex  Find all comments by Mike
Nice try GG.
I have pictures of my family and never once have prayed to them, or bowed down to them. They are not deity.

Your church and its followers on the other hand, make replicas of what they THINK Jesus looked like and venerate statues and other pieces of plaster and stone. They worship the creature more than the Creator and that is a sign of someone who professes to be wise, but really is a fool. Read Romans 1--although, I know that's not in the new 10 commandments that your Vatican put out so you probably won't read that either. If you change your mind, you can read it in your own RC Bible. If you ignore the notes that your church puts under the Scriptures, you just might learn something and change your ways.

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News Item6/19/07 4:57 PM
GG  Find all comments by GG
Question to Jim the Dim. Why didn't God punish Moses for making a bronze serpent? Further, why didn't God punish the Jews, twice, for putting images within the Temple in Jerusalem? Why doesn't God punish you for having pictures of your family?...for watching movies? ...Art?
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News Item6/19/07 2:49 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
The Catholics have been changing the 10 Commandments for years.

Especially this one,"8 You shall not make for yourself a carved image, whether in the form of anything that is in heaven above, or that is on the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. 9 You shall not bow down to them or worship them..."

http://www.bible-researcher.com/decalogue.html

and this follows naturally,

"Venerating Statues"

http://www.catholicconcerns.com/Statues.html

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News Item6/19/07 1:32 PM
Greg Pierce | North Carolina  Find all comments by Greg Pierce
I remember as a boy, my dad was asked to preach at a rural church. He was driving slow looking for the right road. A car was riding hard on his tail gate about to push us off the road. Finally the tailgater came flying around us, cussing my father and giving him a dirty sign.

When we pulled up at the church, the other guy was already out of his car about to go in to worship. He turned and walked back to my dad and said, "I'm so sorry, I didn't know you were the guest preacher!"

Too bad we didn't have the popes commandments back then.

Commandment 11: Thou shalt not try to jump into the Pope-Mobile or try to touch his Popeishness in anyway.

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News Item6/19/07 12:20 PM
Mike | Mex  Find all comments by Mike
Oh, but Krystal, even if they won't obey the original 10, they will most certainly obey these new ones because their institution was given the oral traditions too that have never been written down. So, even though this comes about 6000 years after the original ones were given by God Himself, and although these have been hidden for all that time, they will be obeyed by our RC friends because tradition is much more important than the Holy Scriptures. So, don't worry yourself.
Since John Yurich is 1/2 Catholic and 1/2 Protestant (although he doesn't protest anything), he'll probably just obey 5 of the new 10, throwing out the "unscriptural" ones according to his own understanding.
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