PCA Approves Recommendations of Federal Vision Report
MEMPHIS, TENN â€“ The 35TH General Assembly of the Presbyterian Church in America, meeting in Memphis, Tenn., on Wednesday, June 13, approved the recommendations of its Interim Committee on Federal Vision.
The report stated plainly "the view that justification is in any way based on our works, or that the so-called â€śfinal verdict of justificationâ€ť is based on anything other than the perfect obedience and satisfaction of Christ received through faith alone, is contrary to the Westminster Standards."...
Savedbygrace, your comment that the JWs have been around since the time of Arian [I think you meant Arius] is a bit astonishing. I thought the JW Church was based on the late 19th century teachings of C T Russell.
Greetings brother! Amen. I have dusted my feet of this brother and moved on(though there may be times in the future to rebuke as he shows up everywhere-God may save his soul yet!) If we dont dust our feet of him then we may be the ones trying to win him over or even may(notice I said may)be motivated by foolish pride. We should present the case of the gospel and other Bible facts and move on. We must keep in the forefront that we either sow or water but it is God who provides the increase. GG has been given enough necessary Biblical information to make him grovel and beg for mercy from God to save his soul.
Even if the Roman cult was from the beginning(which it of course was not) that can be meaningless. The number of years in existence or the number of adherents does not establish truth. The Bible says,"...Thy Word is truth." Cults have been around even longer than the Roman cult. Jehovahs Witnesses have been around since Arian's time. Also, we as believers in God's INSPIRED WORD the Bible know that 1 Cor. tells us that God has to spiritually regenerate ones soul for him to understand spiritually. Psalm 36:9,says: "For with Thee is the fountain of life; In Thy light we see light."
Now if the PCA would just respect the Westminster Standards a little more by not following the lead of the PCUSA in unlawfully, disrespectfully, illegally, removing the sentiments of the authors who declared in the original the belief that the Pope is the Anti-Christ!
This GG is here to cause people to doubt the faith given to us by Paul and the Apostles. Stop answering him. Wipe the dust from your feet as you leave him. Let our mighty God judge the truth of what he pretends. He attends almost all messages on this site. He has a great deal of time and I wonder if this is a paid role he plays.
The Catholic faith comes from Jesus and is lead by the H.S. in all truth and thus protected by the H.S. from error, just like the writers of the Scripture were. Mary can never take the place of Jesus, she is a 'road sign' saying "Jesus is coming". She is a symbol of the Arc of the Convenant and the Church. Like the Church, she bears Christ to the world.
1500 year of infallible teaching GG? Are you serious? How can that be when the assumption of Mary was taught as a doctrine finally centuries after she died? Why wasn't it taught right from the moment of her death, er um, her supposed assumption into heaven? Little clue here--BECAUSE IT NEVER EVER HAPPENED. Again, it is a lie from the devil to get your eyes off the true Saviour and put them on an untruth and on a person that you venerate and worship who takes the place of Almighty True God.
Many free resources (online books and MP3s) defending the Biblical and Westminster Confession teaching on justification and refuting the "Federal Vision / Auburn Avenue Theology" heresies are at http://www.swrb.com/newslett/freebook/dwilson.htm. Specific proponents of various heresies related to these issues are also refuted at http://www.swrb.com/newslett/freebook/dwilson.htm and include: Doug Wilson, Credenda/Agenda Magazine, Steve Wilkins, Steve Schlissel, John Barach, N.T. Wright (the New Perspective on Paul), John Frame, Richard Gaffin, Norman Shepherd, et al.
"Extensive study of their [the Federalists'] oral and written teachings on the special concerns of the Federal Vision convinces me that they have taught, alongside some wonderful truths, some serious errors about covenant theology and its implications for salvation, personal and corporate spirituality and piety, the use and understanding of the sacraments and the conduct of theology and biblical studies in general.
Sadly, their mistakes undermine their very laudable goals. Their attempt to assure tender souls who doubt their salvation while they trust in Christ collapses and the poor souls are left more confused than before, because the objectivity of the covenant is inadequate to the task-while the presumptuous, who hear that aspect of their message may be led, inadvertently, to the false assurance of formalism.
At the same time, their attempt to destroy the complacency of the presumptuous is in profound danger of promoting a false legalistic notion of works righteousness" (Cal Beisner)