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FRIDAY, FEB 23, 2007  |  8 comments
Christian bookstore manager foils robber
MESA, Ariz. - The night manager of a Christian bookstore foiled an armed robbery by slamming the man's hand in the cash register drawer, then wrestling with him before he fled, police said. "I didn't want to hurt him, but if I would've gotten a hold of him, I would've sent him straight to the Lord," said manager Daniel Stanton, a 58-year-old retired aerospace engineer who served two tours in Vietnam.

Scottsdale police said the incident happened Tuesday night at the Jesus Chapel Discount Bookstore in south Scottsdale. A scruffy-looking man wearing a black hooded sweat shirt and dark pants entered about 8 p.m., and minutes later approached Stanton with his hand in his pocket, saying he had a gun and demanding money, according to a police report.

"I just backed away and said, 'The drawer is open,' Stanton said. "Then, when he showed both of his hands, I just went off on him." ...


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Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
"The Old Testament is meant for instruction for Christians"

Yes, and...?

"Avoiding tort litigation and personal quarrels sounds more like Paul"

Nevertheless it was Jesus. You still haven't answered my charge of gross inconsistency in your citing it.

"Wishing to kill your enemy is never Christian"

But it's all right for Jews? Note, the same OT which tells us to love our enemies [!] (Ex. 23:4) also sanctions killing for certain kinds of criminal intrusions (Ex. 22:2ff). There MUST be a distinction between a personal rival and a criminal...

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News Item2/24/07 3:24 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Neil, The Old Testament is meant for instruction for Christians. Avoiding tort litigation and personal quarrels sounds more like Paul, who is definitely a Church apostle.
"The government has the right and the responsibility before God to mete out punishment for sin. But I, as an individual, do not have the right to take revenge and personally avenge wrong that have been done to me. Look at verse 17 with me. Paul says, Never pay back evil for evil to anyone. Respect what is right in the sight of all men. If possible, so far as it depends on you, be at peace with all men."

http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?currSection=sermonssource&sermonID=8190417344

Wishing to kill your enemy is never Christian, not matter what part of the New Testament you look at.

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News Item2/23/07 2:22 PM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
Luke 6 is irrelevant to protecting life or preventing burglary; it is about avoiding personal quarrels & tort litigation. Smiting on the cheek may be battery, but not attempted murder.

And I repeat, Jim, that according to IHCC's theology, this passage is not meant for Christians anyway, but "kingdom" Jews. Your argument self-destructs.

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News Item2/23/07 2:14 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
But, G.G., The Roman Church isn't Christian.

Never together,

http://www.ihcc.org/images/booklets/pdf/L117.pdf

Yes, one wonders if that is the correct thing to do, and sending the fellow straight to the Lord would not have been a Christian action.

Luke 6
27. But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you,
28 Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you.
29 And unto him that smiteth thee on the [one] cheek offer also the other; and him that taketh away thy cloke forbid not [to take thy] coat also.
30 Give to every man that asketh of thee; and of him that taketh away thy goods ask [them] not again.
31 And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.

Yes, I know, either said than done.

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News Item2/23/07 12:08 PM
GG  Find all comments by GG
You bet your bippy!
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News Item2/23/07 12:06 PM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
FYI: www.jesuschapel.com

Actually, some of their products look rather popish. So you're right, "Christian" is at best only partly descriptive.

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News Item2/23/07 12:03 PM
GG  Find all comments by GG
I think the term 'Christian Bookstore' is inappropriate, since most of Christianity is not represented in the goods that are offered there. It supposes to service all of Christinity's needs, which it clearly never intended to. Evangelical or Fundamentalist Bookstore is much closer to the truth. Hey...how about 'Bible-Thumper' Bookstore? It has a certain ring...don't you think?
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News Item2/23/07 11:53 AM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
"Stanton said he and a witness were unable to see a license plate number because the man pulled away in reverse."

Like some other states, AZ does not provide frontal license plates. Perhaps this is a good reason to change the policy!

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