Colts' coach more proud of Christ than 'blackness'
Colts coach Tony Dungy
Super Bowl XLI had been hyped as a major social milestone in U.S. history, since for the time, the head coaches of both teams were black.
But when the game was over and the Indianapolis Colts had defeated the Chicago Bears 29-17, the winning coach said Jesus Christ was more important than any racial moment.
Tony Dungy: I'll tell you what. I'm proud to be representing African-American coaches, to be the first African-American to win this. It means an awful lot to our country. But again, more than anything, I've said it before, Lovie Smith and I, not only the first two African-Americans, but Christian coaches showing that you can win doing it the Lord's way. And we're more proud of that....
A former poster on here named dwj of Omaha, Nebraska stated below "A true believer would never be coaching or playing a football game on the Lord's Day(Isaiah 58:13)". Well if Evangelical Protestant Churches had Saturday Vigil services(Which would be considered Sunday worship) in addition to Sunday worship so that their members who are busy on Sunday could still attend Sunday worship on Saturday then there would not be any problem. Why don't Evangelical Protestant Churches have Saturday Vigil services?
Jesus did not break the Sabbath (God forbid!), but the Pharisees' false application of it. The problem with the Pharisees which Jesus constantly reproved was: 1) their adding to God's Law, and 2) their hypocrisy.
Chris M and others, you keep saying "the Lord's day" but I just don't see where in the Bible that is defined as Sunday. Please show me a verse or passage. I can show you passages where Christ himself broke the sabbath and was criticized by the pharisees.
M2, the early church gathered for the Lords supper very early in the morning on the Lordsday (Sunday). It was around dawn or just before. This is mentioned in the writings of the early church 'fathers' and is related to Mary being at the tomb early searching for the body of Christ.
I know nothing about your American sports but I know the commercial sports here would not be for Christians, certainly not on the Lordsday.
It goes without saying that the Christians in the early church period had no part in such sports, theatre or the like entertainments, which was strongly condemned by them beacuse it is of the world. Of course one of the sports in that era was to see the Christians being killed, often in similar stadiums to those used by commercial sports today.
Many folks here are quick to judge. Though some of us like to gather Sunday mornings at 10:00am to worship the Lord, the Bible never prescribes an exact time. Sunday is the fist day of the week, the day when the early Church gathered. But it is not necessarily a day of rest (that is the Sabbath). This Colts' coach can attend an evening service or have a service with his Christian players. We don't know if he does these things, but we don't know that he doesn't. The world of NFL is wicked, yet so are the worlds of corporations, public institutions, etc. If this man could be salt to this wicked world in his sphere of influence, it is good.
It would be wrong to put this coach on a pedestal, but it seems wrong to judge him based on the given information and on the instructions given in the Bible on how to worship.
Neil: Our church did the same thing and we also had to leave because of abstinence. It was heart breaking for us and we were told that we were just carnal and weak in the faith. Don't be discouraged, keep looking up, Jesus is still the answer.
By the way, I did not make my comments about Saturday being the sabbath to defend my interest in the sport, I honestly don't care for football or any other sport enough. Here's an interesting thing I found on the web:
In otherwords you do not believe that restaurants should be opened on Sunday? Well what about men who do not know how to cook and they do not have a wife to cook for them? What would they do if no restaurant was opened on Sunday?
You stated that by having professional football games on Sunday that millions are being kept away from worship services? Well generally football games do not start until 12 Noon on Sunday's and thus individuals who attend church can attend one of the early worship services and still have time to go to the football game.
Jeremiah 6:16 Thus saith the LORD, Stand ye in the ways, and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls. But they said, We will not walk therein.
This is New Age Christianity it encompasses a great turning away and rationalizing blatant sin and not doing things Gods way.The NFL is one huge Den of Iniquity from Gambling to Drugs to illicit Sex and Immorality.All one needs to do is to watch the Half Time Events to know who is at the helm in the NFL.Matthew 7;22 & 23 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.Matthew 24 describes the time in history we are living - Jesus Christ was very clear in what he had to say about the signs of the last days.
"Last I checked, the "Lord's day" was Saturday, the last day of the week. It was the Christians *custom* (i.e. preference, but not biblical mandate) to worship on the first day of the week."
This is one of those things I have to respond to.
Actually, the first church met on the first day of the week (check your Bible). That's Sunday. If Tony Dungy was doing things the Lord's way he would not be envolved with the NFL, period. If Christians were doing things the Lord's way they wouldn't be watching the NFL, period. Look up the word "wicked" in your Strong's and you'll see that watching wickedness is as bad as doing it.
I don't know what else to say. If the Bible can't convince you, then I certainly can't.