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FRONT PAGE  |  8/29/2016
TUESDAY, JAN 23, 2007  |  10 comments
Four Winged Dinosaur?
Early ancestors of birds had wing patterns similar to biplanes, scientists say.

Fossils found in China indicate a dinosaur called Microraptor gui evolved 125 million years ago with sets of upper and lower wings.

The discovery suggests the evolution of flight in birds followed a similar path to the development of human aviation. Wilbur and Orville Wright made the first piloted powered flight in December 1903 in a biplane called the Wright Flyer.

Modern birds are believed to be descended from feathered, tree-dwelling dinosaurs. Some palaeontologists argue that tree-dwelling bipeds began leaping between branches before learning to parachute and developing flight involving flapping. Others say flight evolved in ground-living animals using early wings to power a run up trees and hills. ...


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Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
There were two basic problems hindering human aviation: power, & the attempt to naively imitate "nature" (per classical/Thomistic philosophy?) for wing design. Inventors did not grasp that bird wings are very complex & useless w/o sophisticated feedback control. They might have done a *little* better copying the bat, but they were hard to observe in detail.

Lilienthal & the Wrights succeeded because they saw this was a dead end. The rigid airfoil wing has no natural counterpart, or at least none known of back then. Neither does the internal-combustion engine or propeller (if you discount the bacterial flagellum which they were unaware of).

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News Item1/25/07 3:04 AM
Chris M | Australia  Find all comments by Chris M
Oh, I don't know. If they waited long enough the Wright Flyer may have just materialised.

The problem today is a lack of patience; people just don't like waiting about for things like this to happen anymore.

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News Item1/25/07 2:17 AM
M2  Find all comments by M2
"The discovery suggests the evolution of flight in birds followed a similar path to the development of human aviation"

um.. no... the path to the development of human aviation required a step called "design." The Wright brothers' planes didn't happen with a car running up and down a tree.

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News Item1/23/07 9:34 PM
Dessie | WV  Find all comments by Dessie
TOO stupid to comment on
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News Item1/23/07 9:30 PM
Chris M | Australia  Find all comments by Chris M
So if I see a fly with three wings is it a mutant or simply de-evolving?

But for believers having a single eye is the way to go!

Mat 6:22 "The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light."

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News Item1/23/07 7:34 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
"The discovery suggests the evolution of flight in birds followed a similar path to the development of human aviation. Wilbur and Orville Wright made the first piloted powered flight in December 1903 in a biplane called the Wright Flyer."

Their "similar path" comparison doesn't work. The development of human aviation is a result of design changes, which of course implies designers. Intelligence, not evolution.

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News Item1/23/07 7:18 PM
Cliff Leckey | N. Ireland  Find all comments by Cliff Leckey
I reconn theres more than "tree-dwelling bipeds leaping between branches"
The branches are crowded with some of these palaeontologist head bangers.
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News Item1/23/07 7:17 PM
Cliff Leckey | N. Ireland  Find all comments by Cliff Leckey
I reconn there`s more than "tree-dwelling bipeds leaping between branches"
The branches are crowded with some of these palaeontologist head bangers.
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News Item1/23/07 6:45 PM
Albert | Northern Ireland  Find all comments by Albert
If you look closely you can just make out a flying pig in the back ground,OH no its not,its just GG leaping into hell using the Apocrypha books as wings.

But Hey
Thats Why "ye must be born again"

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News Item1/23/07 5:19 PM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
Another Darwinist fable. An aero model of a fossil animal like this must require a lot of hacked unknowns (musculature, feathering, weights, drag, not to mention the animal's "control-loop"). Looks like the "Torygraph" journalists conveniently overlooked these caveats which effectively falsify the results.
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