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THURSDAY, DEC 14, 2006  |  17 comments
Ad: ‘Would Jesus shop at Wal-Mart?’
LITTLE ROCK, Ark. - A new television ad by the union-backed group WakeUpWalMart.com features a pastor asking, “Would Jesus shop at Wal-Mart? Should you?”

Accompanying the ad, is a letter to Wal-Mart Stores Inc. CEO Lee Scott that was signed by more than 130 clergy members. The letter asks Wal-Mart to provide a “higher standard for its employees and their families,” which the letter says would reflect “the best of Christian values.”

WakeUpWalMart.com provided the ad to The Associated Press on Wednesday and said the spot is to run in 43 media markets. ...


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News Item12/17/06 4:01 PM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
How is Walmart's methodology any different from that of any other capitalist retailer in the nation? Retailing is not supposed to be a charity operation.
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News Item12/17/06 1:27 PM
Mark M. | GA USA  Contact via emailFind all comments by Mark M.
Here is the problem with Wal-Mart; they buy in such quantity that, if the store in your area wants to, they can sell anything, absolutely anything, from their shelves cheaper than any other chain store in the nation. Of course, in any given purchase Wal-Mart may not be cheapest, but overall they will be. If the other chain stores, K-mart, Target, and others, can't compete, then the local stores in your area have no chance at all. The local store eventually shuts down; at which point Wal-Mart often raises the price of a particular item. All of this happens on a massive scale nationally, and now even globally. All the while, employees are given less wages and benefits, and Wal-Mart pressures manufactures to produce their products in under-developed nations so that it can be as cheap as possible (low overhead, low production costs). The good thing of course is that there will be a good selection with a low price at Wal-Mart.

With all that being said, a Union would not address the main problems of Wal-Mart, in fact it would only raise the prices for consumers (increased overhead, and production costs), while giving the employees an inconsequential raise, that would probably be taken by the Union in dues and various fees.

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News Item12/15/06 9:12 PM
Chris M | Australia  Find all comments by Chris M
Good points Jessica.... I feel that Wal-Mart's product quality and general presentation is declining overall based on my occasional visits. I thought at the same time Target had probably improved a little but I don't visit often enough to be sure this is the case. Either way both are much cheaper than over here.
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News Item12/15/06 8:12 PM
Jessica Dawson | Canada  Find all comments by Jessica Dawson
Romans 14:22-23 Do you have faith? Have it to yourself before God. Happy is he who does not condemn himself in what he approves. But he who doubts is condemned if he eats, because he does not eat from faith; for whatever is not from faith is sin.

Jeremiah 23:28 “ The prophet who has a dream, let him tell a dream; And he who has My word, let him speak My word faithfully. What is the chaff to the wheat?” says the LORD.

Matthew 6:30-34 Now if God so clothes the grass of the field, which today is, and tomorrow is thrown into the oven, will He not much more clothe you, O you of little faith? “Therefore do not worry, saying, ‘What shall we eat?’ or ‘What shall we drink?’ or ‘What shall we wear?’ For after all these things the Gentiles seek. For your heavenly Father knows that you need all these things. But seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things shall be added to you. Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about its own things. Sufficient for the day is its own trouble.

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News Item12/15/06 8:02 PM
Jessica Dawson | Canada  Find all comments by Jessica Dawson
I think if the least of Jesus' brethren have shopped at Walmart, then Christ has shopped at Walmart through them. I have known Christians to work at Walmart and pay their tithes from their earnings. If you want to find a completely sinless place to shop, then you are going to have to leave this world. Obviously it is also not right to turn places of worship into "market places" either.

Matthew 25:40 And the King will answer and say to them, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did it to one of the least of these My brethren, you did it to Me.’

Psalm 89:11 The heavens are Yours, the earth also is Yours; The world and all its fullness, You have founded them.

John 17:15 I do not pray that You should take them out of the world, but that You should keep them from the evil one.

1 Corinthians 5:9-11 I wrote to you in my epistle not to keep company with sexually immoral people. Yet I certainly did not mean with the sexually immoral people of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or idolaters, since then you would need to go out of the world. But now I have written to you not to keep company with anyone named a brother, who is sexually immoral, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortioner—not even to eat with such a person.

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News Item12/15/06 6:44 PM
Wake Up Call Again  Find all comments by Wake Up Call Again
"I don't remember Jesus coming up with any loony conspiracy theories"

There's lots of them in the Bible, and we know Jesus wrote the entire Bible (the other name for Jesus is The Word).

How about the conspiracy when the Jews bribed the soldiers to say that the disciples had come and stolen away Jesus' body from the tomb, and they promised them they would arrange things with the Roman authorities so they would not be punished. (remember, they were to guard the tomb on pain of death)?

The soldiers took the money, the Jews consulted with the Roman authorities, and the Bible says the Jews claim Jesus' body was stolen to this day.

There's other examples of conspiracies in the Bible also, but we'll leave it at that for now.

The Bible says Satan is like a roaring lion stalking about seeking who he can destroy. Yes, it is a conspiracy. Read Revelation. World government is where we're headed.

Some people won't wake up until they are on their train-ride in shackles to a FEMA camp. The rest won't wake up until they turn the showers on.

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News Item12/15/06 5:49 PM
Go back to sleep  Find all comments by Go back to sleep
"Wal Mart is the devil's store -- designed to kill, destroy and enslave"

What utter tosh. People like you can see conspiracies in everything. You prefer to be entertained by foolish myths than to study sound doctrine. I don't remember Jesus coming up with any loony conspiracy theories
http://capmag.com/article.asp?id=3957

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News Item12/15/06 6:24 AM
Wake Up Call Again  Find all comments by Wake Up Call Again
No, Jesus would not shop at Wal Mart.

Wal Mart is the devil's store -- designed to kill, destroy and enslave.

Corporate monopolies are the devil's handmaiden.

The world is hurtling toward destruction, and the ones who should be the first to know, to have discernment and wisdom, are oblivious, mesmerized by the world's culture and lies and deceits.

Lovers of the truth? Where? Only a few on this bulletin board have a clue, or care to have a clue.

Hint: 501C3 pastors are also controlled, so pastor worship is deadly in today's world. Your pastor will NOT be filling you in on the truth. You MUST go searching for it yourself.

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News Item12/15/06 3:20 AM
Wade Guisbert  Find all comments by Wade Guisbert
If these clergy can ask the rhetorical question,would Jesus shop at WalMart. Logic would then conclude:
I wonder if Jesus would attend the churches of these clergy?
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News Item12/14/06 4:34 PM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
But the supposedly "reactionary" Vatican thinks unions are vital:

"society and the State must ensure wage levels adequate for the maintenance of the worker and his family, including a certain amount for savings. This requires a continuous effort to improve workers' training and capability so that their work will be more skilled and productive, as well as careful controls and adequate legislative measures to block shameful forms of exploitation, especially to the disadvantage of the most vulnerable workers, of immigrants and of those on the margins of society. The role of trade unions in negotiating minimum salaries and working conditions is decisive in this area."

Ref: www.vatican.va/holy_father/john_paul_ii/encyclicals/documents/hf_jp-ii_enc_01051991_centesimus-annus_en.html

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News Item12/14/06 4:26 PM
John | San Jose, CA  Find all comments by John
Bible doesn't mention anything about a tent-making guild
for Paul or a fisherman's union for Peter, but it does
talk about one for idol-makers, which doesn't paint the
latter in a very good light...in terms of being able to
adjust their market/production to accomodate changing
social conditions without first kicking up a fuss.

Somewhere in the book of Acts.

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News Item12/14/06 3:13 PM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
I don't know where Jesus shopped besides the waters of Lake Galilee, but I know where the early church may have shopped, & w/o sinning: at the pagan meat market, 1 Cor. 10:25!

What, no meat boycott? No public protests?

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News Item12/14/06 3:07 PM
kenny  Find all comments by kenny
I was always bothered by those silly WWJD bracelets that were so popular for a while. No one can say for certain what Jesus would do in most situations.

To me, the benchmark for the believer should be: What does the Bible say? If someone can justify not shopping at Walmart based on Biblical principals, so be it. Don't shop there. It seems silly, however, to do anything based on what one thinks Jesus might do.

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News Item12/14/06 2:11 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Contact via emailFind all comments by Jim Lincoln
This is a good emerging church question. What Jesus did and that was for us to know is in the Bible. Now in the Bible it gives us ideas on what to do, there are white, black, and gray areas. Shopping at Walmart is something I think I can guarantee Christ will not do in the future or at any other store.

You can listen about this at,

http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?currSection=sermonssource&sermonID=92906103536

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News Item12/14/06 2:09 PM
Dessie | WV  Contact via emailFind all comments by Dessie
Self-righteous hypocrites! If
this was all I had to worry about in
my faithfulness and service to my
Lord I would be happy. To bring Jesus
down to this level is discusting; do
people not know Who He IS? We are in
the world and I have not seen any
business or store that is the local
church. God chose to let us be born
during this period in history and we
must adjust. As for myself, I wish it
were still like it was thirty years ago
when we had our little shops and
groceries to visit. People, do not be
fooled, all Big Business is the same.
Are we suppose to stop living??
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News Item12/14/06 1:33 PM
Old School Presbyterian  Find all comments by Old School Presbyterian
Amen, Neil.
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News Item12/14/06 1:03 PM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
"'higher standard for its employees and their families,' which the letter says would reflect 'the best of Christian values.'"

A collective demand for a "higher standard of living" is not a Christian value but a Marxist/popish one. If the workers want higher pay etc., they are always free to ask - and mgmt. is free to refuse. No outside compulsion should be imposed upon matters of contract. Business law already teaches this, so why is labor relations an exception?

In any case, the phrase "high std. of living", like "clean air", is so subjective as to be meaningless.

Was Jesus a socialist? Consider the parable of the vineyard laborers in Matt. 20. Why would Jesus say, "Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? Is thine eye evil, because I am good?" if the employer (and by analogy, God) was not legally free to set his terms to whatever he liked? He was only obliged to satisfy his contract, and that with individual laborers, not all.

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