A federal judge in Dallas yesterday ruled against a Christian group whose "million-dollar" gospel tracts were seized by the U.S. Secret Service as "counterfeit money," and a wheelchair-bound man in Las Vegas claims a Secret Service agent threatened him with arrest for passing out the same tracts.
Brian Fahling of the American Family Association Center for Law and Policy, which is representing the Denton, Texas-based Great News Network, had asked the judge to order immediately the return of 8,300 tracts seized by the Secret Service and to prevent the government agency's local field office from arresting anyone who distributes them.
Fahling told WorldNetDaily he's unsure at this point what the judge's negative decision will mean for the Christian evangelists who have been using the tracts, which mimic U.S. currency but have disclaimers along with a gospel message on the back.
NAY "m2", BUT YOU HUMBLE YOURSELF -- FOR THIS FORUM IS NOT YOUR MONOLOGUE. AND SPEAK IN A MORE GRACEFUL TONE OF THE 1569/1602 SPANISH TRANSLATION OF THE HOLY BIBLE THAT HAS BEEN SEALED WITH THE BLOOD OF MILLIONS OF SPANISH CHRISTIAN-MARTYRS WHO PERISHED BY THE FLAMES, DUNGEONS AND MASSACRES OF THE SATANIC SPANISH INQUISITION! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
AMEN "John from UK": I AM PLEASED TO KNOW THAT THE TRINITARIAN BIBLE SOCIETY OF LONDON, ENGLAND, USES THE REINA-VALERA OF 1569/1602 FOR ALL THEIR SPANISH LANGUAGE MATERIALS INCLUDING CALENDARS, BOOKLETS AND GOSPEL TRACTS.
IF IT IS ANY OTHER YEAR(S) THAN 1569/1602 -- AND/OR NOT BASED SOLELY ON THE EASTERN GREEK-ANTIOCHIAN-BYZANTINE-MAJORITY TEXT-TEXTUS RECEPTUS: THAN I FLATLY, UNEQUIVOCALLY AND TOTALLY REJECT IT AS A SATANIC-VATICANIST "QUACK" TRANSLATION ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
The Authorized version is miraculous, plain and simple. The English nation was zealous for God's words, and God was faithful to them. Spain (Reina Valera), Germany (Lutherbibel), and France (Louis Segond) have been drowned in Romanism and secularism over the years. But the fruit of the preserved scriptures in English have produced the beautiful fruit of Biblical (anti-Liberal) faith in America (and rural Canada) and England. I agree with Tony that we need to be very discerning as to which sword we wield as we stand up for the Lord.
You said: "But I don't believe that petty differences over translations are that important."
Thank you for your comment, but I can assure you that the petty differences of today are the absence in the future of the following words from the Bible: hell blood baptist propitiation grace atonement God manifest in the flesh redemption THROUGH HIS BLOOD
You said: IF IT IS NOT THE AUTHORIZED SPANISH "REINA-VALERA" VERSION OF 1569/1602 (THE "BEAR" BIBLE): THEN IT IS NOT THE AUTHORIZED HOLY BIBLE FOR THE SPANISH SPEAKING/READING/WRITING/COMMUNICATING LITERATE PEOPLES OF THE WORLD!
I am pleased to be able to tell you that the Trintarian Bible Society of London, England, uses the Reina-Valera for all their Spanish language materials including calendars, booklets and gospel tracts.
Ok three things. First of all, Tony, I think you are not acting in a very Christ-like manner. Attacking your brothers in Christ is not something my Saviour would have advocated. Yes, when someone is out of line, we are to point them back to THE SCRIPTURES, not our thoughts. Also, typing in all capital letters when posting online is very bad manners. It is difficult to read and gives the idea that you are mad at someone. Second, Obviously, we must be quoting the Bible on tracts. But I don't believe that petty differences over translations are that important. THese tracts are getting the Gospel message on the streets, where it needs to be heard. Third, I think this discussion is getting off track. I think the more important question is, how can the federal government even dare to confiscate religious material on such ridiculous grounds? If any of you have never seen a Million dollar bill tract (I have and have passed them out), there is no possible way it can be mistaken for actual currency. This is a blatant violation of First-amendment rights. Thianks for letting me give my input. I think you people are pretty awesome.
I ALSO SOUNDLY REJECT, REPUDIATE AND RENOUNCE THE SO-CALLED "ROMAN 'CATHOLIC' REFORMED" SPANISH "TRANSLATION" OF THE "'HOLY' BIBLE"; AS FOUND IN THE "COMPLUTESIAN 'POLYGLOT' BIBLE OF 1517" -- WHICH WAS COMPILED BY A PREDECESSOR/ANCESTOR OF MY "CISNEROS" FAMILY: FRANCISCO JIMENEZ-(XIMENES)-CISNEROS.
IT WAS HE WHO WAS:
1. THE PERSONAL PRIEST-CONFESSOR OF QUEEN ISABELLA OF SPAIN, IN 1492.
2. RESPONSIBLE FOR "RELIGIOUSLY" UNITING THE SPANISH KINGDOM OF KING FERDINAND/QUEEN ISABELLA; WHEREWITHAL DRIVING OUT THE "MOORISH"/MOHAMMEDAN INSURGENCY WHICH THREATENED THE SPANISH KINGDOM & CROWN.
3. APPOINTED SECOND INQUISITOR GENERAL OF THE "SPANISH INQUISITION"; BRINGING IN VARIOUS "RELIGIOUS" REFORMS IN SPANISH ROMAN "CATHOLICISM" (LIKE ELIMINATING "CONCUBINAGE", ETC.)
4. IN THE EARLY 1500s, PERSONALLY INVITED FELLOW ROMAN "CATHOLIC" LINGUIST, PHILOSOPHER AND HEBREW-GREEK-LATIN SCHOLAR, DESIDERIUS ERASMUS OF ROTTERDAM, TO THE COMMITTEE FOR THE TRANSLATION OF HIS (CISNEROS') "'POLYGLOT' BIBLE".
ERASMUS REJECTED THE INVITATION: KNOWING FULL WELL THAT IT WAS A VATICANIST RUSE TO DIVERT HIM AWAY FROM COMPILING HIS "TEXTUS RECEPTUS" (WHICH WAS BASED SOLELY ON THE "BYZANTINE" EASTERN-GREEK FAMILY OF MANUSCRIPTS); AND HAVE HIM ASSASSINATED IN SPAIN BY HIS VATICANIST ENEMIES!!!!!
GOD-BLESSED, GOD-PRESERVED AND MARTYR-BLOOD-STAINED
BYZANTINE/ANTIOCHIAN/EASTERN-ORTHODOX-MANUSCRIPTS (TEXTUS RECEPTUS) OF THE
TRANSLATORS OF THE AUTHORIZED "KING JAMES" VERSION,
ETC., ETC., ETC. . .
IF IT IS NOT THE AUTHORIZED SPANISH "REINA-VALERA" VERSION OF 1569/1602 (THE "BEAR" BIBLE): THEN IT IS NOT THE AUTHORIZED HOLY BIBLE FOR THE SPANISH SPEAKING/READING/WRITING/COMMUNICATING LITERATE PEOPLES OF THE WORLD ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
In an earlier post you seemed to have advocated the integrity of the Spanish RV 1909. Did you know the RVR 1909 differs from the KJV 1611 more than the Ray Comfort KJV differs from the KJV 1611? For example, the Comfort-KJV reads "prophets" in Mark 1:2, whereas the RVR 1909 reads "Isaias el profeta".
In any case, I don't use the Comfort-KJV. I see it as a translation of the KJV into modern English. Fortunately, I don't need it.
"gospel tracts were seized by the U.S. Secret Service as "counterfeit money," and a wheelchair-bound man in Las Vegas claims a Secret Service agent threatened him with arrest for passing out the same tracts"
These are not counterfeit money regardless of Secret Service or court decrees. They do not pretend to be legal tender. There is no such thing as a million dollar bill. Grover Cleveland is on the thousand dollar bill, not the non-existent million. Only an ignorant person or someone with an agenda could possibly come to any other conclusion.
The tracts say things Satan's useful idiots don't want said. Simple, really.