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FRONT PAGE  |  8/31/2016
SATURDAY, JUN 17, 2006  |  21 comments
'John the Baptist's hand' a crowd-pleaser among Russian faithful
MOSCOW (AFP) - Tens of thousands of Russians got a once-in-a-lifetime chance this week to touch a hand that may have touched Jesus, a relic described as having belonged to John the Baptist which is on loan to the Russian Orthodox Church.

Massive crowds, testifying to the country's popular religious revival, waited hours in snaking lines outside Moscow's Christ the Savior Cathedral to touch the relic, considered by believers to be the right hand with which John touched Jesus's head while baptizing him.

The relic, which once belonged to Russia's tsarist dynasty, was taken to Denmark following the 1917 Communist revolution, then found its way to a safe haven in an Orthodox monastery in Montenegro.

Now missing two fingers, it is endowed by believers with special powers including the ability to heal the sick and help students on their exams. ...


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Cbcpreacher | NY  Find all comments by Cbcpreacher
"By what judgment you judge others, you will be judged." "Take the beam out of your own eye before removing the splinter from your brothers". My point, Mike, is that Lance makes a big deal out of his point when, as the old saying goes, "he has three fingers pointing back at him".
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News Item1/10/07 1:17 AM
Chris M | Australia  Find all comments by Chris M
"Someone in the Calvin camp tied Anabaptists up in sacks and threw them in the lake"

Obviously they were predestined from before time to be sacked Anabaptist re-baptisers. And your problem with that is....?

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News Item1/9/07 11:45 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Cbcpreacher,

So you're saying Lance, being Catholic, cannot condemn anyone for acts of atrocities, because bad Catholics in ages past did bad things? Does this principle apply to Protestants as well?

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News Item1/9/07 9:56 PM
Cbcpreacher | NY  Find all comments by Cbcpreacher
I don't know how I missed this one! What is a good catholic like you, Lance, doing condemning ANYONE for acts of atrocity? Noone did it better than the catholics during the dark ages! Poor pot, calling us kettles black!!!
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News Item6/20/06 11:44 PM
Lance Eccles | Sydney, Australia  Contact via email
I might have got my facts wrong. I was doing it from memory.

Someone in the Calvin camp tied Anabaptists up in sacks and threw them in the lake, but I need to check who it was.

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News Item6/20/06 10:06 PM
Neil | Tucson  
Also, Zwingli wasn't in Geneva, he was in Zurich until his death (at the hands of a Catholic soldier) while chaplaining Zurich forces defending against the Catholic "forest" cantons. Farel & later Calvin were at Geneva.
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News Item6/20/06 9:57 PM
Neil | Tucson  
Lance, please give evidence that Zwingli had the authority to execute anybody. Do not assume that because someone has influence, they have absolute power.

I don't believe IHCC is truly Anabaptist; real Anabaptists are 5-pt. Arminians and have pietistic tendencies. They don't seem interested in Scofield Bibles either.

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News Item6/20/06 9:33 PM
chas | phoenix  
HAVE NO FEAR,
John the baptist's hand is here !!!!
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News Item6/20/06 8:56 AM
Lance Eccles | Sydney, Australia  Contact via email
You're an Anabaptist, Jim?

Aren't they the ones Zwingli tied up in sacks and tossed into Lake Geneva?

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News Item6/20/06 8:52 AM
Lance Eccles | Sydney, Australia  Contact via email
Missouri Mud, the hand doesn't heal. If there is any healing it is because God heals through it.
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News Item6/20/06 8:17 AM
chas | phoenix  
How does it help students with their exams??? It can hardly write with only 3 fingers !!
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News Item6/19/06 1:08 PM
No friend of J Calvin  
Quote: "It is silly to forbid Pastors to read sermons of Presbyterians, only to be given Baptists Seminaries."

Haaa!!

Like the presbys would welcome baptist sermons to train their men!!

And such a comnmnent after all your rantings and ravings vs the baptists?

Good on them, I say!

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News Item6/19/06 1:04 PM
Missouri Mudd | Kansas City Area  
If that hand heals...they why is it missing two fingers? Not enough power to heal itself???
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News Item6/18/06 5:05 PM
Jim | Nebraska  
Another fine comment M2, but Lance all these people are doing are honoring superstition. This is what relics are all about. I surprised you "Reformed" folk have not reference this site quite a bit, it's strange an Anabaptist has to do it!

http://aomin.org/erasmus.html

Still another article,

http://www.biblebb.com/files/CATHINFO.HTM

There is always one of my favorite sites of course,

http://www.ianpaisley.org/article.asp?ArtKey=relics2

Noticing relics is paganism.

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News Item6/18/06 9:20 AM
Walt | Michigan  
I've been having our Pastor's sermons translated into Russian for the past two years. We also have completed the Shorter Catechism and will be starting shortly the Larger Catechism.

We have located the only Calvinist and Reformed Church is Moscow and St. Petersburg. It is a small flock.

I have tried to get approved our sermons to be shared with these Pastors, and especially the reformation documents that are being translated into Russia.

However, the Baptists that control their sermons said: "Dear Walt, I send you Christian greetings from ___. The following is the response from ___ literature committee regarding your offer to translate sermons from English to Russian. We thank you for your most generous offer but we feel that we must decline. We do not want to start distribution of sermons because we encourage the pastors to prepare their own sermons with the help of the books provided by our mission as well as attending seminaries and Bible colleges in EE to further their studies and enhance their preaching abilities. We wish you the Lords blessing in your work and your outreach to those you deal with in Russia. In His service."

It is silly to forbid Pastors to read sermons of Presbyterians, only to be given Baptists Seminaries.

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News Item6/18/06 8:43 AM
Monty Powell | Richmond  
The Roman church once had on display (in the 16th century) the "skull" of the "Baptist" prooving that when it comes to chicanery, they have always been #1.
But this is just a "little" miracle. They used to claim (I don't know if they still do) that they had the miraculously preserved tongue of St. Anthony of Padua. Now that's a relic baby!
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News Item6/17/06 8:59 PM
Mike | New York  
Lance,

It's a distraction, and keeps people from thinking. They are being scammed,imo. It is not honoring to John or Christ for trickery to be used.

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News Item6/17/06 8:49 PM
M2  
Let's honor John the Baptist by listening to his command, "He must increase, but I must decrease."

Seeking healing and wordly success from a hand (even if it IS John's hand) is not light. It's a spark from the abyss.

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News Item6/17/06 8:07 PM
Lance Eccles | Sydney, Australia  Contact via email
Whether it's John the Baptist's hand or not doesn't matter. These people are honoring John the Baptist, who announced the coming of Christ, and in this way they honor Christ.

It is not darkness, but light.

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News Item6/17/06 5:14 PM
John | UK  
This is very sad!

Oh the darkness of men's minds!

DECEPTION.

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