SAO PAULO, Brazil - About 3 million evangelical Protestants staged a huge rally Thursday in the heart of Brazil's biggest city, demonstrating their growing influence in the world's largest Roman Catholic country.
Crowding next to sound trucks blasting religious music, marchers wore T-shirts in the green and yellow colors of Brazil's flag advertising their annual "March for Jesus."
The hymn-singing evangelicals walked to skyscraper-lined Agenda Palest, Brazil's version of Wall Street, then gathered around a stage to hear bands play.
Sao Paulo police estimated the crowd swelled to 3 million, double last year's estimate.
JY Why on earth do you keep saying you believe the bible,then contradict yourself by saying CHRIST does not change a person when they are saved? Did you even read the verses I posted telling you of the change? The only reason there is no change in your life is because you were never saved in the first place and are still a child of your father the devil. If there had been an infilling of the HOLY SPIRIT you would have obeyed the WORD OF GOD,and come out of the pancake worship shop of rome,btw,your constantuation and the transtantuation of the wafer are one and the same,anyone with a brain cell can figure that one out. BUT HEY THATS WHY "YOU(JY)MUST BE BORN AGAIN"
GG is right that you have got some nerve stating that if someones personality has not changed after they have received Christ as their Savior that their Father is the devil. Just who do you think you are anyway? Do you think that you are Christ? Christ is the only one who can see into the hearts of mankind to tell who has received Him as their Savior and who has not.
Where does it say that a believer has Jesus' personality "imputed" to him along with Jesus' righteousness? This is Albert's usual Horse leftovers.
JY...the way to handle a rotten personality is to find someone that you think has a good one. Or...decide what a good personality looks like and begin to adopt those traits....if it's hard...pray for personality change. You can overcome being shy and just because you have a bad experience doesn't mean the next time it can't be better. To have a friend...you must be a friend. Also...drop as much selfishness as you can...learn to be interesting to talk to and learn to have a sense of humor. If you work on it...it will happen.
Surely....his Hindness is not suggesting that HE has the personality of Jesus...because I am here to tell everybody that Albert is a no-good-nick and HAS NO PERSONALITY...Does this mean Jesus was a loser too?
CONT. I am shy and that is why I do not like the Fundamentalist and Evangeical Protestant Churches because in Fundamentalist and Evangelical Protestant Churches everybody is expected to engage in interpersonal communication and fellowship with other individuals in church. And in Fundamentalist and Evangelical Protestant Churches nobody can sit in the back of the church away from everybody and worship Christ alone. When I attend church I wish to be left alone to worship Christ alone. What good is it to have friends anyway? Since when is engaging in interpersonal communication and fellowshipping with other individuals in church and having friends required for salvation and gaining entrance into Heaven? If I only participate in the logical and scriptural parts to the Mass then I am worshipping Christ in spirit and in truth because the logical and scriptural parts to the Mass are scriptural and thus the logical and scriptural parts to the Mass are acceptable to Christ.
If I was not really Born Again and not being led by the Holy Spirit would I have dispensed with the illogical and unscriptural RCC doctrines and the illogical and unscriptural parts to the Mass? That is totally illogical to think that if someone who is not really Born Again and not being led by the Holy Spirit would have the ability to dispense with the illogical and unscriptural RCC doctrines and the illogical and unscriptural parts to the Mass. What makes you think that if someone who is not really Born Again and not being led by the Holy Spirit would have the ability to dispense with the illogical and unscriptural RCC doctrines and the illogical and unscriptural parts to the Mass?
Not everybody's personality changes when they receive Christ as their Savior. Country Music singer Johnny Lee is a Born Again Christian by reason of receiving Christ as his Savior and Lee still has a stupid personality. My late Uncle and his family from North Carolina received Christ as their Savior and converted from the Roman Catholic Church to the Baptist Church and their personalities did not change one iota. They had stupid personalities before they received Christ as their Savior and they continued to have stupid personalities after they received Christ as their Savior. CONT.
JY The reason you have a rotten personality is because you have the devil as your father. If you were saved,then you should have the personality of your saviour.ROM 13-14,GAL 3-27,COL 2-11,1 PETER 3-18
I have had bad experiences with friends. I have a rotten personality which is the result of being shy. I do not think that it is necessary to engage in interpersonal communication and fellowship with other individuals in church because engaging in interpersonal communication and fellowshipping with other individuals in church is not required for salvation and gaining entrance into Heaven. The only thing that is required for salvation and gaining entrance into Heaven is to receive Christ as Savior.
"What good is it to have friends anyway? The only friend that someone should have is when they get married and have their spouse for their friend."
You talk as if you have had some bad experiences with friends. I sincerely hope that you are led to a couple of good friends in the Lord. I don't know your personality or your history, but I really believe that having good friends in the Lord is essential for your Christian walk.
As for Medieval Catholicism demoting Jesus... Yes, you're right that "theologically" Jesus was never completely neglected, but "practically" speaking, sometimes the unread public worshipped Mary alone. Pagan communities that were converted to Catholicism held onto their goddess worship and expressed it through Mary worship. In any religion that has done forced conversions, there is often a wide gap between the official tenets and what is practiced by the public.
I know that it's a widely accepted and convenient term, but "Protestant" is not very descriptive of today's Bible-based congregations. In a way, even the Eastern Orthodox Church is "protestant" because they split out from the Catholic Church. Why should the Eastern Orthodox Church get its own classification and all the other denominations get lumped into a single term "Protestant"? During the Reformation the term had some significance, but we've moved beyond that. The Catholic/Protestant dichotomy is a construct that establishes a contrived dialectic, which serves the interests of Ecumenicalists. There is only one faith once delivered to the saints, and God's Church is that which is built on that faith. There are many throughout history who belonged nominally to the RCC, but they espoused Biblical doctrines. Conversely, there are many Protestants today who deviate from the Bible farther than some Catholics. The term "Protestant" can explain a person's cultural heritage, but it does poorly in describing someone's doctrinal beliefs. So I don't bother calling myself a Protestant.
YOU WOULD EXPECT ALL THE SATANIC-VATICANISTS AND ROMAN "CATHOLIC" CULTISTS TO "COME OUT OF THE WOODWORK" OF IDOLATRY, ALA "john yurich", "lance eccles", "etc.", AND ATTACK, POO-POO AND BELITTLE THE OVER 3 MILLION BRAZILIAN PROTESTANT CHRISTIANS & ANTI/NON/UN-SATANIC VATICANISTS !
WHAT A WITNESS AGAINST THE HARLOT/WHORE OF MYSTERY BABYLON (The RCCult) WHEN 3 MILLION SOULS ARE LIBERATED FROM SATAN, SET SPIRITUALLY FREE AND OBEY ALMIGHTY GOD'S AUTHORIZED-BIBLICAL COMMAND TO "COME OUT" OF THE SATANIC ROMAN "CATHOLIC" CULT! ! !
I CAN'T WAIT UNTIL NEXT YEAR; WHEN MAYBE 6 MILLION+ BRAZILIAN PROTESTANT (ANTI-SATANIC VATICANIST) CHRISTIANS WILL MARCH ON THE SO-CALLED "CORPUS CHRISTI" DAY.
*NOTE--Brother "rob kelley": YOU CAN'T REASON WITH THAT SPIRITUALLY BLINDED, DECEIVED AND RELIGIOUSLY DEMONIZED "VATICANIZED" YOUNG BOLIVIAN WOMAN; AS YOU CAN'T REASON WITH THE SPIRITUALLY BLINDED, DECEIVED AND RELIGIOUSLY DEMONIZED "VATICANIZED" THREAD-POSTERS LIKE "lance eccles", "john yurich", "etc.":
PRAY &/OR FAST FOR THEM/HER DEARLY; AS THE AUTHORIZED HOLY BIBLE STATES, THAT "IF GOD PERADVENTURE WILL GIVE THEM REPENTANCE TO THE ACKNOWLEDGING OF THE TRUTH: AND THAT THEY MAY RECOVER THEMSELVES OUT OF THE SNARE OF THE DEVIL, WHO ARE TAKEN CAPTIVE BY HIM AT HIS WILL." II TIMOTHY 2:25-26.
What do you mean that you are not a Protestant? If you are not a Catholic or an Eastern Orthodox then you must be a Protestant because any church that is not Catholic or Eastern Orthodox is a Protestant Church.
I attend church because the Bible states to not forsake the assmebly. The reason why I do not like Fundamentalist and Evangelical Protestant Churches is that everybody is expected to engage in interpersonal communication and fellowship with other individuals and I just don't like to engage in interpersonal communication and fellowship with other individuals because I am a very private individual and I wish to be left alone when I attend church. What good is it to have friends anyway? The only friend that someone should have is when they get married and have their spouse for their friend. And anyway, having friends in church and fellowshipping with other individuals in church is not required for salvation and gaining entrance into Heaven. The only thing that is required for salvation and gaining entrance into Heaven is to receive Christ as Savior.
Are you stating that membership in a visible earthly church is required for salvation and gaining entrance into Heaven? Every preacher that I have ever preached has stated that membership in a visible earthly church is not required for salvation and gaining entrance into Heaven. If membership in a visible earthly church was required for salvation and gaining entrance into Heaven then the Bible would state so. But nowhere in the Bible does it state that when everybody stands before Christ after passing away that He will require for entrance into Heaven that everybody had belonged to a particular visible earthly church in addition to having received Him as their Savior. Therefore membership in a visible earthly church is totally irrelevant in terms of salvation and gaining entrance into Heaven. The only thing that is required for salvation and gaining entrance into Heaven is to receive Christ as Savior.
M2, if there is emphasis on Mary at the expense of Jesus in certain places, it is not a medieval form of religion. The medieval Catholic Church put great emphasis on Mary, but never at the expense of Jesus.
I believe that if Catholics neglect Mary they will soon come to neglect her Son as well.
"When everybody stands before Christ after passing away He will not require for entrance into Heaven that everybody had belonged to a particular visible earthly church in addition to having received Him as their Savior."
That's the conclusion you come to when you don't believe the Bible, because the Bible shows a definite separation between the true and false.
European and North American Catholics generally do not love Mary to the extent that they completely neglect Jesus; but in remote places of the earth where Catholicism has a stronghold, there is often a stronger cult of Mary where Mary is the primary object of worship and Jesus is represented only as a baby on her lap. The Philipines, remote parts of Latin America and Eastern Europe are such places.
The abundance of Bibles and the Protestant presence ensure a slightly more biblical form of Catholicism in the West, but in remote places the Catholic church still maintains a medieval form of their religion.
I was witnessing in Greensboro for the SBC convention last week & met a young woman from Bolivia visiting her brother. she stated she was Catholic. I spoke to her about the grace of Jesus Christ that we all need to enter fellowship with Our Father. Our sins were acounted for by Christ & He imputed His righteousness unto us. We need the Spirit of Christ to go about His works through us Eph. 2:10. I asked her if she could receive & follow this Christ of the Bible. (She said she did not read the Bible) She said she would like to but she loved Mary too much to accept Christ as her Saviour & Lord. I shared from the Bible that it is Jesus who saved us & He is the High Priest (Hebrews) who hears our prayers. She again protested her love for Mary over Jesus! What can you do with reasoning like that?? She did take a tract. Pray for michelle.