LONDON (Reuters) - Anglican leader Rowan Williams is to visit Pope Benedict in the Vatican as the world's two largest organised churches battle to bridge their differences over homosexuality.
The visit later this year will mark the 40th anniversary of Archbishop of Canterbury Michael Ramsey's historic meeting with Pope Paul VI in 1966.
That was the first formal meeting between the heads of the two churches since England's King Henry VIII broke with Rome in the 16th Century.
"My visit this autumn is an opportunity to continue that rich tradition of visits between Canterbury and Rome," said Williams, struggling to avoid schism in his own church over the ordination in America of openly gay bishop Gene Robinson.
"The blessing of same-sex unions in Canada's Anglican Church and moves to ordinate women bishops in the Church of England are two other issues that could drive Protestants and Catholics further apart."
Ummmmm...Wasn't the reformation supposed to have accomplished that? Oh wait, I forgot...we wiped that part out of the history books, nevermind. The Reformation never happened... As so they want us to think that...
Nowhere in Scripture has the polity of "church" as practiced by Rome ever been described. The ONLY system of church polity described is the system of local churches ruled by elders, elected by the congregation, along with deacons to provide for the material needs of the church. The insane hierarchy that developed prior to the Reformation is a disgrace. Just what IS the meaning of pope and cardinals and bishops parading around in assinine splendor, looking like a bunch of medieval drag queens ? Even the Roman church itself (probably through a Baalam-like intervention from God) called the events of the 16th century a "reformation" not a "rebellion" or a "revolution". They knew that the Church was being RE-FORMED ie: returned to it's proper Biblical polity, & Biblical scholarship, & Biblical theology. That's why they called their reaction a "counter-reformation". They did not want reformation. They wanted what they had created to supercede what Christ had created. Augustine (whom the papist church dares declare to be a "doctor" of the Roman church) held to Biblical positions that are contrary to offical papist teaching. He highlighted his contempt for the way the "church" was going when he made his famous comment "the road to hell is paved with the skulls of bishops."
It wasn't God that brought about the Reformation but people. God merely allowed the Reformation to happen. The Catholic Church bares a large share of blame for the split because of the malfeasance of many of its priests, monks, nuns and bishops. The Reformers bare a large share of blame for taking it upon themselves to start an unauthorized Church (stared by men and not God) and to lead people to this renegade Church for which Jesus made no allowance. Two things that Jesus said has some impact here. First..."What terrible things will befall the world because of scandal". Second..."The scribes and Pharisees have succeeded Moses... (St Peter and this successors have since replaced them) ...therefore do EVERYTHING and OBSERVE everything they tell you. But do not follow their example." False guides are in every religion, but wrong-doing is no excuse to reject the Church which Christ established and of which he said, "the gates of Hell shall not prevail..."
GG Sorry about the "Lance" remark which I credited to your account.
Now GG, you musn't forget it was God who brought about the Reformation, since the Popish doctrines had strayed so very, very far away from Scripture and God's Truth.
Therefore this act of His grace was necessary, in the great scheme of things, to bring out the True Church and make a protest against the heresy and anarchy of Papal Rome.
Hence the Protestant Church provides the true home, for the real Christian, to experience the teaching of Faith and salvation. This is proven of course by the membership of the Holy Spirit in our Church, and the fruit of the Spirit being the Scripture Truth rather than just making it up as you go along.
Just because YOU say, "No room for any other King", certainly doesn't make it true and who other than the unfortunates that are inflicted by the folly of the Reformers, would listen to their errors? Faithfullness, discipline, constancy and an Apostolic foundation of Truth are still the common stamp and currency of the Papacy. A world away from the Chicanery of the Reformation. Spin the bottle and invent a new tenet of Christianity which never existed before. All sincere Christians, who are open to humility and truth are perfect allies of God thru his Church of Rome. One more thing. Knowing how much your kind enjoy putting the wrong words in other peoples mouths and then demanding to have their credulity taken for something of value. I would like to inform you that Lance made that statement and not me, but don't let the truth stand in your way. It hasn't for nearly 500 years. If we replaced all the Catholic priests with eunochs overnight, what would Scotland do for Calvinists?
Quote "Headquartered in the Vatican, the Catholic Church is run like a monarchy led by a powerful Pope atop a descending pyramid of cardinals, archbishops and bishops around the world."
Now theres an interesting statement. "King Benedict" rules from Vaticanus. The infallible pope in charge of his very own nation worldwide. No room for any other "King" is there. Just as the Reformers proclaimed, this ideology robs Christ of His Sovereignty, His Majesty and His unique place in God's creation.
Superstition, Dogma, Ritual and Heresy are still the common stamp and currency of popery. A world away from the True Faith and Church.
Williams and his liberal religion make a perfect ally for Rome. The Reformation and it's results shouldn't stand in their way, as GG is recorded on here as saying, the Romish church only think it had to do with Henry VIII wedding arrangements. As for homosexuality, women usurping the place of men and celibacy, well one simple solution could be to replace all priests with eunochs. I believe the operation is quite simple today.