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SATURDAY, JAN 7, 2006  |  16 comments
Catholic expert: Europe needs re-evangelization
GRAND RAPIDS -- One of many legacies of John Paul II, as George Weigel sees it, is how the late pope "ignited a revolution of conscience that produced a political revolution" in Europe.

One major challenge confronting the new pope, Benedict XVI, brings the papacy back to familiar ground, The Vatican observer said Friday at Calvin College.

"What is Europe dying from?" Weigel posed to a crowd of listeners during the third installment of the college's January Series. "I suggest Europe is dying from spiritual boredom."

And the land of American forefathers will continue its "civilizational death spiral unless it is reconverted to its Christian roots." ...


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News Item1/10/06 9:19 PM
Lance Eccles | Sydney, Australia  Contact via email
Yes, Peter, you did. One throw, two scores.
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News Item1/10/06 8:31 PM
Peter  
I guess I hit home with that one...
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News Item1/10/06 7:41 PM
lance Eccles | sydney, australia  Contact via email
Peter, cut and paste anything you like -- Fundamentalists, Mormons, Salvation Army, Buddhists, Congregationalists. No one choice seems make more sense than any other.
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News Item1/10/06 7:39 PM
GG | Texas  
How typical. A Prot changing the Bible to suite his fancy.
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News Item1/10/06 7:39 PM
lance Eccles | sydney, australia  Contact via email
Jim, Baptists haven't a hope of converting Europe. They (and any other US evangelicals) will be seen as representing America and American religion, and therefore will be viewed either with suspicion or with total lack of interest.
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News Item1/10/06 6:51 PM
Peter  
Matthew 23:15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

cut out the words "scribes and Pharisees" paste in the word "Papists"

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News Item1/8/06 4:34 PM
Jim | Nebraska  
Chris M., I found that article very interesting. Thank you for posting it. Lance, your second comment was good, but of course, your first one about an immoral, anti-Christian organization lecturing on morality is pathetic.

Go to the top right corner of this website, and put in the word, "ecumenism":

http://www.ianpaisley.org/main.asp

You'll see the futility of the Catholic Church of leading any evangelism movements in Europe. It appears that Baptist Churches in this country need to send missionaries to Europe, or at least, in greater numbers.

Also listen about the falsehood of mixing social elements in with preaching the Gospel, Nullifying the Gospel's Saving Power

http://www.sermonaudio.com/source_detail.asp?sourceid=soundwords

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News Item1/8/06 9:18 AM
Walt | Michigan  
Cont.,

20. The spirit or light within men, is their principal rule of faith and practice, that renders the scriptures useful, and by which they ought to be tried: or at least is part of their rule. Q.---1 John iv.1. Is. viii.20.

21. Our certainty of the scriptures being the word of God, depends not upon their internal marks of divinity, or the inward persuasion of the Holy Ghost, but on the constant tradition of the church. P. R.---See No. 8. John vi.63. Heb. iv.11.12.13. 1 Thess. i.5. and ii.13.

22. The scripture is not of itself intelligible, with respect to the most necessary points. P.---Psal. xix.9. and cxix.99.105. 2 Pet. i.19.

23. Every scripture has a fourfold sense. P.---Psal. xix.7. and cxix.105. 2 Pet. i.19. Acts xvii.11.

24. Human reform is the standard by which we must judge of the meaning of scripture: nor is any point of revelation to be received, unless we can clearly comprehend it by our reason, S.; at least it is not necessary to be believed in order to salvation. R. 1 Cor. ii.14. and i.21-24. 1 Tim. iii.16. Eph. v.32. Matth. xiii.11.

JD, that is enough for now. Hopefully you will identify some of these errors in your theology and reform your views with the Scriptures! What a glorious day it will be when I see that from you.

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News Item1/8/06 9:17 AM
Walt | Michigan  
Cont.,

15. The Hebrew and Greek originals of the scripture have been corrupted. Mahomet. P. S. Q.---1 Pet. i.25. Psal. xii.6.7. and cxxxviii.2 Matth. v.18. John v.39.

16. The Hebrew and Greek originals are not preferable to all other versions, nor are the standard by which they are to be adjusted; but the translation of the Seventy, and especially the Latin Vulgate, is equal, if not preferable. P.---2 Tim. iii.16. 2 Pet. i.21. Psal. xii.6. Prov. xxx.5.

17. The scripture ought not to be translated into the vulgar languages, nor ought all to be allowed to read them. P.---John v.39. Acts. xvii.11. 2 Tim. iii.15.16. 1 Cor. xiv.2.19. Col. iii.16. Rev. i.3. Psal. i.12. Deut. vi.6.7.8.

18. The scriptures are not a perfect and sufficient rule of faith and manners. P. A. Q.---2 Tim. iii.15.16.17. John v.39. and xx.31. Rev. xxii.18. Prov. xxx.6.

19. The traditions of fathers, and decrees of popes and councils, ought to be a part of our rule of faith and practice. P.---2 Tim. iii.15.16.17. Rom. xv.4. Gal. iii.8. Is. xxix.13. Matth. xv.9. Is. viii.20.

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News Item1/8/06 9:16 AM
Walt | Michigan  
Cont.,

8. The scriptures of the Old and New Testament are not of divine authority. Deists. N. B. Let the marks of divine authority be traced in the matter and manner of the whole Bible.

9. The writers of scripture, in what they knew, were left to themselves, and only preserved from grosser mistakes. S. R.---2 Tim. iii.16. Psal. xix.8.9. Matth. v.18. John xvii.17. 2 Pet. i.21.

10. There are contradictions in scripture. P. S. A.---Psal. xix.8.9. and xii.6.

11. The authority of the scripture, at least in respect of us, depends on the church. P.---Eph. ii.20. Psal. xix.7-10. 2 Tim. iii.15.16.17.

12. Some canonical books are lost. P.---Matth. v.18. Luke xvi.17. and xxiv.27. Rom. xv. 4.

13. The books of the Old Testament are no rule of our faith under the gospel. A. An.---Luke xvi.29. Eph. ii.20. Rom. xv.4. 2 Tim. iii.15.16.17. John v.39. Acts. xvii.11.

14. The Apocryphal books of Tobit, Judith, Wisdom of Solomon, Ecclesiasticus, Baruch, the two first books of Maccabees, and the additions to Esther and Daniel, are part of the inspired word of God. P.---Psal. xii. 6. Rom. iii.2. Luke xxiv.44. and xvi.29.

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News Item1/8/06 9:14 AM
Walt | Michigan  
Cont.,

3. Human reason is of no use, for discerning or illustrating the mysteries of faith revealed to us. P. L. A.---1 Cor. x.15. Matth. xxii.23-33. Gal. iii. and iv. Heb. i. to x. 1 John iv.1. It cannot, in the matters of God, judge of the contradiction of one thing to another.---Matth. vii.15. and xvi.6. 1 Thess. v.21. Heb. v.14. Acts xvii.11. 2 Tim. iii.16.17.

4. The testimony of human senses, is not to be trusted in any point of religion. P.---Luke xxiv.39. Matth. xxviii.6. 1 John i.1.2. 2 Pet. i.17.

5. No consequences, but only the express words of Scripture, are to be regarded, as proof of any point of religion. P. S.---2 Tim. iii.16. Rom. xv.4. John v.39. Matth. xxii.23-33. Gal. iii. and iv. Heb i to x.

6. No doctrinal points of mere revelation, are necessary to be known and believed, in order to salvation; but it is enough that men believe the promises, and obey the commands of God. S. R. Orthodoxy of opinion is no part of religion, or but a small part. M.---John xvii.3. and xx.31. Gal. i.8. 2 John 9. Heb. xi.6. and vi.2. 1 Cor. ii.2. 2 Pet. i.21.

7. The penmen of holy scriptures wrote without a divine command or direction. P. S.---Deut. xxxi.19. Is. viii.1. Jer. xxxvi.27.28. Hab. ii.2. 2 Pet. i.21.

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News Item1/8/06 9:13 AM
Walt | Michigan  
Re-evangelization? Hmmm, what about another great reformation!!! We can start by removing and identifying those who teach these errors since the last reformation. JD, are you listening!

"A LIST OF
The principal Errors, which have troubled the Christian church, especially since the Reformation; and an Index of part of the Scriptures which refute the same.

The letters subjoined indicate the sects which maintain the tenet. A. signifies Anabaptists, An. Antinomians, Ar. Arians, L. Lutherans, P. Papists, Q. Quakers, R. Remonstrants, Arminians, M. Methodists, S. Socinians.

1. The light of nature doth not teach men, that there is a God, and that he ought to be worshipped. S. ---Rom. ii.14.15. and i.19.20.32. Acts xiv.15.16.17. Psal. xix.1. Job xii.7-24. and xxxviii. and xxxix. and xl. and xli.

2. The light of nature, common to all men, is sufficient to conduct them to true and lasting felicity. S. R.---John xvii.3. Acts iv.12. 1 Cor. iii. 2 Eph. ii.12. Prov. xxix.18. 1 John ii.23. 2 John 9.

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News Item1/7/06 11:36 PM
Lance Eccles | Sydney, Australia  Contact via email
33k, JP2's efforts have probably failed. Catholicism in Europe is dying, Protestantism is dead, and Islam is thriving.

There may be a way back, but the native population of Europe seems hell-bent on preventing it.

I write these words from another lost continent.

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News Item1/7/06 11:26 PM
Lance Eccles | Sydney, Australia  Contact via email
Thanks Chris, I've already read the story about that poor fool (and his idiot bishop).

It alters in no way the duty of the RCC to speak out on the state of the world -- especially when many of the bad things are done by RCs disobeying their Church.

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News Item1/7/06 11:03 PM
Chris M | Australia  
Lance, here's a good one for you to read, an honest RC priest:

http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/jan/06010607.html

Perhaps the RCC should clean its own house first?

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News Item1/7/06 9:45 PM
33k  
What? Re-evangelisation already?
I thought that they had done that in the 10 years up to 2000.
Strange, you don't hear many Papists condemning John Paull II as an abject failure but by this measure he certainly was.
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