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FRONT PAGE  |  6/2/2015
SUNDAY, DEC 11, 2005  |  10 comments
Evangelicals meet with Jewish Seminary
NEW YORK — The prestigious Jewish Theological Seminary has sponsored dialogues with all sorts of American religious and ethnic groups over the past 67 years, but never with evangelical Protestants — until last week.

Conservative Judaism’s prime campus was the site for respectful talks between national-level figures from both faiths, with participants agreeing on support for Israel and greater willingness from each side to learn about the other. But there also was evident wariness on domestic politics, reflecting the complicated relationship between the two groups.

Planning for the meeting, co-sponsored by Baylor and Temple universities, began in 2002. It probably wouldn’t have happened in years past. One expert panelist, University of Akron political scientist John Green, noted polls that show evangelicals are no more negative toward Jews than other Americans and that their attitudes have ...


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News Item12/15/05 2:30 PM
Neil | Tucson  
"In the Church age, there is only one way to salvation and that is by the acceptance of Christ. There are no exceptions"

Your qualification "In the Church age," implies that there are other ways to salvation before & after it. What are they?

Jews do NOT have an inherent monopoly on talent, that is a myth that has indirectly fueled anti-Semitism. That they succeed in certain fields is a reflection of the extent to which they act in accordance with God's Law (as I suggest below), albeit in the secular sense, Rom. 2:14 . They receive secular blessings perhaps, but no other. The same goes for Chinese and other prodigal ethnic groups.

My impression is that Dispensationalists are uninterested in understanding Judaism and how Jews & Israelis think, but merely focus on Israeli events in the context of eschatology. This creates the bizarre spectacle of evangelicals scolding Israeli leaders for giving up land (not that I think the Israelis are wise to do so).

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News Item12/15/05 2:01 PM
Jim | Nebraska  
Neil, thanks for the URL, however, I have nothing to praise about Orthodox Jews. The Pharisees were condemned by Jesus, so why should I think the latter day version is any better? I just pointed out that the Jews are a people picked by God. They are especially blessed by God, you should have also pointed out that the Jews excel in many fields, such as medicine and science. The polio vaccines were invented by Jews. A disproportionate number of Nobel prizes have gone to Jews. We probably could use another Brandeis on the Supreme Court instead of what we have been getting.

In this Church Age, there is only one way to salvation and that is by the acceptance of Christ. There are no exceptions. There was an interesting article about the three major Jewish groups in the United States published in the Jerusalem Post.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1134309575108&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FPrinter

I will say again, there is only one way to be accepted by God, for Jews, Muslims, or Catholics, is the total belief in Christ.

I should point out though, the rather detailed articles about supersessionism:

http://www.theologicalstudies.org/Supersessionism.html

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News Item12/14/05 9:24 PM
Craig | USA  
What has been done to Law since Blackstone is Pharasaical.
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News Item12/14/05 5:08 PM
Neil | Tucson  
Sabbath casuistry is especially fine. Remember this the next time anyone thinks Scots Presbys overdid Lord's Day regulations. It also may explain the tendency of Jews to excel in the legal profession:
www.come-and-hear.com/shabbath/shabbath_20.html#chapter_ii

Example:
"WHEREWITH MAY WE KINDLE [THE SABBATH LIGHTS], AND WHEREWITH MAY WE NOT KINDLE THEM]?9 WE MAY NOT KINDLE [THEM] WITH LEKESH, HOSEN [TOW], KALLAK, A BAST WICK, A DESERT WICK, SEAWEED, ZEFETH [PITCH], SHA'AWAH [WAX], KIK OIL, OIL OF BURNING,10 TAIL FAT, OR TALLOW. NAHUM THE MEDE SAID: WE MAY KINDLE [THEM] WITH BOILED HELEB; BUT THE SAGES MAINTAIN: WHETHER BOILED OR NOT, YOU MAY NOT KINDLE THEREWITH"

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News Item12/13/05 11:28 AM
Neil | Tucson  
Jim, have you actually read portions of the Talmud or derivative rabbinic writings? If not, I urge you to do so; you cannot appreciate Jewish casuistry until you see it firsthand.

www.come-and-hear.com/talmud

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News Item12/12/05 2:47 PM
Jim | Nebraska  
The Talmud should make for interesting reading, Tony. Christ complained about men and their traditions. So why should you be shocked about the Talmud?
However, Jews are given special consideration in the Bible, q.v.,

http://www.ihcc.org/images/booklets/pdf/L127.pdf

Christians and Jews are to be subjugated if not outright killed, by Muslims. They also have they perverted view of Mary as of course, as does the Roman Church. The mistreatment of gentile wives to Jews did not seem to be any higher than gentile to gentile, but the mistreatment of gentile women by Muslims is well documented. Percentage-wise there are many more moderate Jews than there are Muslims.

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News Item12/12/05 10:52 AM
Tony Borrelli | Suburban Philadelphia (USA)  Contact via email
There's a twist for you! A Jew fretting about a perceived "Evangelical Conspiracy". Last time I looked 90% of the print media, Hollywood studios, & global financial institutions were controlled by Jews. Craig, you're right on the gelt when it comes to the Talmud. Just try to get your hands on a copy of it. See if your local library has one. If you do find one, you'll know why the beginning declares that any Jew allowing a Christian to see the Talmud should be put to death, and any Christian found in possession of one should be put to death. An accurate reading of the Talmud would curl the hair on the back of the neck of any Christian. At least the Koran recognizes Christ as a prophet, and acknowledges the Virgin birth. The Talmud claims that Christ (a.k.a. "that imposter") was the illegitimate son of a Roman soldier and a Jewish prostitute. St. Joseph's University in Philadelphia (a Jesuit institution I attended when I was still trapped in Rome) had a copy of the Talmud. You had to read it at a special desk in front of the librarian who made sure that you did not take notes or attempt to photo-copy it. THAT'S HOW ATROCIOUS IT'S RABBINICAL COMMENTARIES ARE AS TO HOW CHRISTIANS (ESPECIALLY FEMALES) ARE TO BE TREATED.
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News Item12/12/05 8:14 AM
K.C.  
You're so right, Craig.

The Talmud is a real eye-opener to what modern Judaism is based on. It is extremely antiChristian, and most Christians aren't even aware of what it says about gentiles, Christ, and Christians.

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News Item12/11/05 5:33 PM
Jim | Nebraska  
They just should have the right Evangelicals meeting with these folks, Jews for Jesus would be an excellent group of Evangelicals.
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News Item12/11/05 2:30 PM
Craig | USA  
It never ceases to amaze me how much some rabbis and Jewish leaders abhor Christ. It is an interesting study to investigate the relationship of Christians with Jews (I mean unbelieving Jews) since the New Testament. It appears that the persecution perpetrated by Jews on the new church was reversed when Christians gained influence on the civil authorities of Rome and then insisted that the Jews deserved to be punished for rejecting Christ and persecuting Christians. This seems to have been the norm until the Reformation when Protestants were far more open to evangelizing the Jews, even though they were sorely disappointed and, as with Luther, let that disappointment be known. In the twentieth century the immoral influence of Jews who apostatized from orthodox Judaism has been worse than apostate Christians in many cases. Much of the wickedness of the 60's among gentile youth was led in the 50's by Jewish youth such as Allen Ginsberg. I pray with Samuel Rutherford that someday we can sit at the marriage supper of the lamb with countless Jews who have accepted the Messiah. However, the desire to somehow embrace their Christless "faith" as having validity is only going to lead to more damnation.
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