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Choice News FRIDAY, OCT 7, 2005  |  69 comments
Paisley condemns militant threats against Catholics
The Rev Ian Paisley, founder of the Free Presbyterian Church and leader of the mainly Protestant-backed Democratic Unionist Party - which has the largest parliamentary representation from Northern Ireland - has condemned a threat by pro-British paramilitaries to desecrate Roman Catholic graves, reports Ray McMenamin for Ecumenical News International.

Mr Paisley, who has in the past faced accusations of making inflammatory remarks against Catholics, was speaking at St Louis's Catholic primary school in Ballymena, county Antrim, which was targeted by sectarian arsonists in August 2005.

As parliamentary representative for the Antrim area in the British parliament, Mr Paisley was accompanied by Peter Hain, the British cabinet minister responsible for Northern Ireland, which is a disputed part of the United Kingdom.

Hain described the threats, made during a blessing ceremony at nearby Carnmoney ...

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News Item2/6/06 3:22 PM
ex RC | Germany  Contact via email
for insults you certainly take the cake GG - your "argument" doesn´t sound any better second time around.
Lance Eccles - yes, "dulia", "hyperdulia" and "latria" - it´s impossible to recognize any difference without a great deal of "jesuitical" reasoning.
Devotions and prayers to God, Mary and the Saints are for all practical purposes indistinguishable.

News Item2/5/06 10:45 AM
GG | USA  
Mr Clark...just to put the icing on the cake, Bill for SC said, "...Can you see Paisley riding around in a Paisley mobile and having people wave, cry, bow down to him...". Please take the time to read the article on this site titled "Paisley likened to St Patrick only better". It would appear that real life has made Mr Bill's point rather point-less. I will give you this, the RCC and the Pope are acting contrarywise to the way most Protestants understand the Bible. For insults, fairy tales, unfounded assertions, plus a certain Fascist 'Je ne se qua', please see Alberto of Ulster. Under the third rock on the left!

News Item2/5/06 6:32 AM
Lance Eccles | Sydney, Australia  Contact via email
Well, Dr Clarke, I'm an RC and I don't worship the Pope, even though I regard him as Christ's representative on earth.

I don't worship anyone or anything except God. If I did, I'd be excommunicating myself.


News Item2/5/06 4:34 AM
Dr Roger Clark | Germany  Contact via email
GG, your calling Bill´s minor premise "crapo" - - does nothing to disprove it ; therefore, his syllogism : - "RCC and Pope are acting contrary to the Bible" - is valid.
Insults, fairy tales and unfounded assertions cannot in any way refute a logical conclusion

News Item10/14/05 11:34 AM
mike | mex  
they certainly bow down here. and to have any audience with the pope, you must kneel and kiss his ring. Pleeeeeeeeaaaaaaaase.

News Item10/14/05 11:27 AM
If what you say about Catholics worshipping the Pope because of parades and tours and the Pope mobile is true then Americans must worship George Bush, he has parades and tours. Britain must worship Tony Blair, in fact every nation on earth must worship someone, politicians, Rock Stars, Movie Stars, etc. You have confused worship with adulation. You can't possibly know what each and every Catholic thinks when they see the Pope pass by. And people this day and time don't BOW DOWN. Paisley is a politician and a showman, his political career lives or dies by human worship/adulation. In many ways he needs a roaring crowd just like the Pope or else how could Paisley spread his hatred? Bible believers, including Catholics, are not to worship anyone or thing but God. Your minor premise is crapo.

News Item10/14/05 10:38 AM
Bill | South Carolina  
Sorry I have not been able to respond to your email for a few days. Hope you still check this post.

I did read Mt 23:1-12. It talks about people accepting praise and worship, loving the chief seats, the upper rooms, to be hailed of men.

Now, you can say you do not worship and bow down th the Pope, but millions throughout the world do exactly that.

You may choose not to do so, but the RCC allows and even fosters such adulation when it schedules tours and parades with the Pope Mobile. Can you see Paisley riding around in a Paisley mobile and having people wave, cry, bow down to him--no I cetainly can't. I have heard him preach repeatedly and find him to be a man with knowledge of the scriptures. He would not accept worship.

The truth is the truth. The Pope is adored and worshipped by many hundreds of millions of RCC's. You can ignore what you have seen repeatedly on the TV or you can accept it.

The Bible does show that spiritual leaders are not to accept worship from men.

Let me put it to you logically as a syllogism:

Major premise: Bible forbids worship of spiritual leaders--all worship is reserved for God.

Minor premise: Pope and RCC tolerate and encourage such worship.

Conclusion: RCC and Pope are acting contrary to the Bible.


News Item10/12/05 1:08 PM
sm | 107  
...and you wouldn't believe who told me if i told you...

News Item10/12/05 12:40 PM
"Therefore, I will always try to use mercy instead of condemnation, for my own eternal life's sake."

GG - if you have truly repented for your past sins that you documented in abounding measure on this forum and fled to Christ then please encourage us all with your testimony.
If not, then I suggest that you don't be a hypocrite.


News Item10/12/05 12:23 PM
mike | mex  
To the Law and to the Testimony.

News Item10/12/05 12:19 PM
There is a difference in judging and condemning. We must judge what is good vs what is evil. If you judge the RCC to be wrong, then I salute you for making a choice based on your own judgement. The Lord said, "It is mercy I desire not sacrifice". Also, you will be judged (condemned) according to the measure you use. Therefore, I will always try to use mercy instead of condemnation, for my own eternal life's sake. This is wisdom...I think. I recommend it to you.

News Item10/11/05 10:05 PM
mike | mex  
you judge as much as the next person does. the problem is your judgement is wrong as it is against God's Word. i judge everything I see and hear according to God's Word. To the law and to the testimony.

News Item10/11/05 9:38 PM
Don't be afraid of me, I can't and won't hurt you. But, Jesus warned against judging others. I would be remiss in failing to warn you, even though according to you, we are not brothers.

Albert. I told the Inquistion about you, but they just rolled their eyes and chuckled.


News Item10/11/05 7:57 PM
Well Mike,looks like GG is going to report you to the inquisition,oH boy you have had it now



News Item10/11/05 7:38 PM
mike | mex  
whatever gg. you really scare me.

News Item10/11/05 5:24 PM
Give a man a little religious training and right away he believes he is the SouthWestern Distributor of Judgement for God Almighty. And 'HE' has the unmitigated gall to say 'WE' think Mary is god. By judging thousands of Mexicans only by site and not by knowing their heart, who are you acting like, but God! Stop it Mike...its going to get you into big kidding.

News Item10/11/05 12:06 PM
mike | mex  
I'll take what I've seen over and over again from THOUSANDS compared to what one GG says. John Paul II came three times in my tenure here in Mexico and all three times was exactly the same.

I'll say it again:
Peter was married. The RC church should not prohibit it's "priests" from being married. It's a doctrine of demons.

I'll say it again:
Peter received no praise or honor from men. Acts 10:25,26--"As Peter was coming in, Cornelius met him and fell down at his feet and worshiped him. But Peter lifted him up, saying, "Stand up; I myself am also a man." If the Pope would have been a Biblical man, he would have been angry at the thousands of people who were falling down before him at his feet. But he wasn't. He loved the praise of men more than the praise of God. He has found out now that he committed a grave error.


News Item10/11/05 10:34 AM
I can only speak for myself...thats true. But, I have never! Never! Met any Catholic who believed that he or she was required or did, in fact, worship the Pope. If religion were a business and for some it is. Then accusations like this would be seen for what it really are. An attempt by businesses to discredit the competition. This is a red herring brought up to win over the consumer. Remember, if I speak only for myself, then we only have MexMike's word and interpretation for what he saw.

News Item10/11/05 10:18 AM
GG're right Fraser. How could I have missed DIP's sincere love of RC's. A full 2 sentences full of???... full of???...well???...tepid, lame, polit-speak! That verus, hours of contemptous, self-righteous haranging! I'll never doubt him again!....quack!...quack!

News Item10/11/05 10:11 AM
John Yurich | USA  
CONT. Only Christ can see into the hearts of mankind to tell who is saved and who is not saved. So will you guys quit stating that RC's who have received Christ as their Savior have to leave the RCC and join a Fundamentalist Church or else they will in no way go to Heaven when they pass away.
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