Former president Bill Clinton, left, speaks alongside the Rev. Billy Graham on the second night of the Greater New York Billy Graham Crusade Saturday, June 25, 2005 at Flushing Meadows Corona Park in New York borough of Queens. (AP Photo/Frank Franklin II
NEW YORK Jun 25, 2005 — As his final American revival meeting continued Saturday, a fragile Billy Graham was met onstage by former President Clinton, who honored the evangelist, calling him "a man I love."
Clinton spoke briefly before Graham's sermon and recalled how the man known as America's pastor had refused to preach before a segregated audience in Arkansas decades ago when that state was in a bitter fight over school desegregation.
"I was just a little boy and I'll never forget it," said Clinton, who was joined by his wife, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton. "I've loved him ever since. God bless you, friend."
Graham called the Clintons "wonderful friends" and "a great couple," quipping that the former president should become an evangelist and allow "his wife to run the country."...
I would like to ask Dr. Graham "What kind of evangelist" he thinks the X President Clinton should pursue? Surely not of the Christian Faith unless he humbles himself and repents of his pride and for his wife to run the country, she needs to stay at home and bake cookies.
Jim: Schenck said 2 issues were why Billy needed to repent: "I'm disappointed that my role model of 25 years retained his membership in a party that promotes the expansion of abortion and homosexual marriage," "Whoever replaces him will need to hold unequivocal stands on these two paramount moral issues[abortion and homosexual marriage]." THESE are the ONLY reasons Schenck mentioned. In your (correct) desire to dis the rotten RE- Publicans you mis-read (and potentially misrepresent) Schenck. I'm not sure just how much of a cheerleader he is for the RE- publicans. He might be a proponent of the Constitution party. Perhaps Schenck doesn't like the greed of the Republican party? Not a point at issue here with 2 specifics by Schenck of valid moral/biblical reasons to take issue with Billy touting 2 people who extol the Sodomite culture and stand 4-square for EVERY form of convenience abortion.
What do you know, another person who can not separate his religion from politics. :-(
Perhaps Billy doesn't like the greed of the Republican party? He may be a Democrat for the worst of reasons -- his parents were -- and are many Republicans that are that way besides. I would condemn anyone who calls himself a Christian, to say someone else is not because of his political affiliation. There is certainly enough reason to say that Republican supporters are not Christian neither. I condemn both their houses.
There are good Christian reasons to condemn Billy Graham's behavior and teaching. Ian Paisley has a short article on his site explaining why he isn't happy with Billy, and I don't think he mentions one of the reasons he is unhappy with Billy is because he is it Democrat. ;-)
I will point these booklets out that is by my pastor:
National Clergy Council president Rev. Rob Schenck walked out on his EX hero: http://www.dakotavoice.com/200506/20050626_1.asp National Clergy Council president Rev. Rob Schenck walked out on his role model Billy , even though he's a longtime admirer of Billy Graham. But when the soon to retire evangelist announced to NBC's Katie Couric in a recent interview that he is a life-long Democrat, it took a few points away from that admiration.
Mr. Schenck has met Dr. Graham personally and has attended his schools of evangelism and conferences for itinerant evangelists.
"I'm disappointed that my role model of 25 years retained his membership in a party that promotes the expansion of abortion and homosexual marriage," said Mr. Schenck, who , after he saw the Clintons exploit the aging Graham, couldn't bear to stay and hear him preach.
"I was stunned and appalled," said Schenck, who left the Flushing Meadows Park as Graham was still complimenting the Clintons.
"Whoever replaces him will need to hold unequivocal stands on these two paramount moral issues[abortion and homosexual marriage]."
National Clergy Council president Rev. Rob Schenck walked out on his EX hero: http://www.dakotavoice.com/200506/20050626_1.asp National Clergy Council president Rev. Rob Schenck walked out on his role model Billy , even though he's a longtime admirer of Billy Graham. But when the soon to retire evangelist announced to NBC's Katie Couric in a recent interview that he is a life-long Democrat, it took a few points away from that admiration.
Mr. Schenck has met Dr. Graham personally and has attended his schools of evangelism and conferences for itinerant evangelists.
"I'm disappointed that my role model of 25 years retained his membership in a party that promotes the expansion of abortion and homosexual marriage," said Mr. Schenck, who , after he saw the Clintons exploit the aging Graham, couldn't bear to stay and hear him preach.
"I was stunned and appalled," said Schenck, who left the Flushing Meadows Park as Graham was still complimenting the Clintons.
"Whoever replaces him will need to hold unequivocal stands on these two paramount moral issues[abortion and homosexual marriage]."
Graham used of God? What a spell he has cast upon millions! Billy Graham fell off the separated, biblical wagon many years ago sometime around 1967 when he openly embraced Roman Catholicism. Imagine one of Peter's sermons in this light. Simon Peter is gathered in the city to preach with a few more of the diciples, and right before he preaches, he brings up barrabas to say a few words about leadership as a segway into the message. Not, never happened nor should it. But here is Graham doing what he does best, acting like a true preacher of the Gospel, but he is revealed by his methods and liberalism towards what God calls Abomination.
He´s one of the most used man from the Lord.I was surprised when he said about retiring. Men from God never retire.Only the alaord says when to retire.He should wait, but only the Lord knows. I bless him in the name of the lORD.hE HAS BEEN A RABI.wE ALL SHOULD PRAY FOR HIM AMEN.
Billy Graham's desire to hang out with the politically powerful, does negate most of his message. Billy Graham's daughter's interests in witchcraft and psychology, negates her influence for Christianity. Franklin Graham still has a good chance of not having the Word misused such as sending people who did go to the altar call, directed towards representatives of the Catholic Church. This is an abomination.
In spite of the above and in spite of Billy Graham, he has brought many people to the the realization that he was saved. Charles Finney, was a much better brain washer than Billy Graham. I keep thinking he was Presbyterian and not Baptist? I would say no Christian group would want to claim him.
Graham's forgiveness of Clinton bothers me a bit; had Clinton (besides his tax increases) done anything to Graham? He seems to have had a very kind view of politicians, considering what we now know of them.
And Clinton's memory? Well, Graham's opposition to segregation dates back at least to 1953, when he instructed ushers to seat blacks whereever they desired. But did Clinton attend a revival where Graham's position was disputed years later? I'm doubting it.
Graham caused some controversy in 1998, when he seemed too quick to forgive Mr. Clinton just weeks after the Monica Lewinsky scandal broke.
"I forgive him because I know the frailty of human nature and I know how hard it is," Graham told NBC's "Today Show, adding that Clinton "has such a tremendous personality, that I think the ladies just go wild over him."
Graham later clarified his position on Clinton's sexual misconduct in an op-ed piece for the New York Times.
"A leader's moral character, first of all, influences the way he or she does his or her job," the respected reverend warned. "There simply is no such thing as an impenetrable fire wall between what we do privately and what we do publicly.
"Can someone who consistently lies or deceives or cheats in his personal life be trusted in a business deal or a courtroom or a political agreement? Should someone who takes bribes or harbors deep-seated racial animosities be given judicial or political power, as long as he keeps his behavior or his feelings private? Of course not."
Graham's daughter, Anne Graham Lotz, was more blunt, telling Fox News at the time that Clinton "has no moral character."
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