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FRONT PAGE  |  10/8/2015
WEDNESDAY, MAY 18, 2005  |  22 comments
Pit Bull Kills Toddler in West Virginia
HUNTINGTON, W.Va. (AP) - A pit bill that had once bitten a person fatally mauled a young girl before being subdued by firefighters using a fire extinguisher, officials said.

The girl, who was 2 or 3 years old, was pronounced dead at a hospital following the attack Tuesday at the dog owner's home, police Sgt. Dan Underwood said. Her name was not released.

"The girl, her mother and at least two other people were apparently hanging out on the house's porch," Underwood said. "The homeowner apparently told them all to stay out of the house where the dog was."

It was not known what provoked the dog. ...

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News Item4/14/10 4:54 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Heather wrote:
Why would you take your child to a residence knowing there was a vicious dog there already? As it plainly states they were told to stay away from the dog, right? Reason being... he knew it was mean. Not all pit bulls are vicious. Raise them as a child. Love them, discipline them, not abuse them, and show them you are the dominant in the household. They will listen.
Listen to you, maybe, just not to anyone else. By nature and breeding an aggressive animal, not to be trusted. If this were the only case ever regarding pit bulls, one might conclude differently.

News Item4/14/10 3:06 PM
Heather | West Virginia  Contact via emailFind all comments by Heather
Why would you take your child to a residence knowing there was a vicious dog there already? As it plainly states they were told to stay away from the dog, right? Reason being... he knew it was mean. Not all pit bulls are vicious. Raise them as a child. Love them, discipline them, not abuse them, and show them you are the dominant in the household. They will listen.

News Item5/21/05 1:33 AM
Alex | Washington  Contact via email
For the record, Rush Limbaugh was raised as a Methodist. His brother David is much more evangelical.

News Item5/19/05 5:44 AM
Michael | Hixson, Tennessee  
It is too terribly easy to get distracted.


This is a tragic death. There are certainly all sorts of emotions and legal ramifications that will affect everyone involved for the rest of their lives. And ourselves too for that matter.

May God grants us a heart to pray for the family and everyone involved.


News Item5/19/05 3:48 AM
Russell L. Harris | Houston, Texas  Contact via email
Rushdoony an othodox Presbyterian! I do thank you for setting me straight on this matter, Neil. Hearing him repeatedly cited by a couple of dyed-in-the-wool Papists gave me the impression that he was one of theirs. Of course, I heard only snippets of his words -- just enough to support their point. I shall have to get a copy and read him.

News Item5/19/05 2:05 AM
Neil | Tucson  
RJ Rushdoony was Orthodox Presby, although he made a few enemies among them. He and Bahnsen were influenced by van Til at Westminster. was founded by him.


News Item5/19/05 1:49 AM
Mike | mex  
You are exactly right. The civil law of Israel in many ways is what our laws in the USA are based on. Any law abiding country uses laws based on the Scriptures. Those laws are still part of good jurisprudence. I'm not sure where Mike from NY wishes he lived. (Of if he would keep penned in his known-to-attack pitbull also.)

News Item5/19/05 1:06 AM
Steven Lynch | Chapel Hill, TN  Contact via email

You old Bushwhacker you...

Don't you know that in the Universe of Russell...that all Papists, Jews, and people who make commenting statements ending in "please" are simply fodder excuses for him to extol his righteousness in the law?

Think before you bait the hook man!!


News Item5/19/05 12:28 AM
Russell L. | Houston, Texas  Contact via email
In answer to Mike (8:10 pm): That sort of perverse reasoning -- seeking out a way to circumvent the spirit of the Law without breaking the letter of the Law -- is the very essence of the Jewish Talmud, and is unequivocally condemned by Christ Jesus; cp. Mark 7:8-13. In the 21st chapter of Exodus are examples to demonstrate how the Law is to be interpreted and applied. The example of the bull wont to gore is applicable to machinery prone to malfunction and cause injury. Again, the principle at issue is that of RESPONSIBILITY.

News Item5/18/05 11:40 PM
Russell L. Harris | Houston, Texas  Contact via email
Ah! Rushdoony -- THAT "Rush", rather than "Pills" Limbaugh. Forgive me. I am aware of the man -- a Papist, I believe? -- but I have not read him. A couple in Ohio who made it a point to challenge everything I teach always would quote Rushdoony and the Encyclopaedia Britannica, but never the Scripture directly.

News Item5/18/05 8:49 PM
Neil | Tucson  
Rush as in "Rushdoony." He wrote "Institutes of Biblical Law." You sound like you read him.

News Item5/18/05 8:32 PM
Russell L. Harris | Houston, Texas  Contact via email
If you are unable to infer a general principle from a specific example, then you have no business commenting on this matter. With respect to the Law of God (and, indeed, in the sight of any sane individual), there is no essential difference between a dog which kills and an ox which kills. And Rush Limbaugh, like most comtemporary "right-wing" commentators, is a Jew. No, I never have and never shall listen to him.

News Item5/18/05 8:22 PM
Neil | Tucson  
Good points, Russ. Sounds like you've been reading Rush.

News Item5/18/05 8:10 PM
Mike | New York  
You're right Russell. How foolish of me to lurk in the bushes and throw stones at you and not take responsibility for saying "Russell, please." I thought you might have been joking at the expense of a dead child. That's why I didn't criticize you, but instead tried to get YOU to take responsibility for your irrelevant post. A dog kills a child and you post Scripture about a bull goring. Loose use of the Word, Russell. The Law is the Law. Who are you to change it?

News Item5/18/05 8:04 PM
Russell L. Harris | Houston, Texas  Contact via email
The matter of whether the animal is "productive" is immaterial, for no benefit is to be derived from the carcass -- the animal is to be stoned, and its flesh is not to be eaten. And, according to verse 30, if the animal has injured in the past and the victim does not die, then the judges may demand whatever restitution they deem proper. The essential message of the passage is that the owner of the animal is responsible without limit to his liability. This runs counter to modern notions of limited liability.

News Item5/18/05 7:53 PM
Neil | Tucson  
At the end of the article: "Young said animal control officials will ask a judge to order that the dog be destroyed"

Unwittingly no doubt, they are obeying the Ex. 21 case law persuant to the 6th Commandment. However, a dog is not a productive animal like a bull, so some other restitution perhaps should be required as well.


News Item5/18/05 7:22 PM
Russell L. Harris | Houston, Texas  Contact via email
"Please" what? Have you a problem with the eternal, unchanging Law of God? Or have you embraced the blasphemous notion that the New Covenant did away with the Law of God, and now unconditional "love" is the answer to every situation?

And if you wish to critize a comment, you really ought to identify yourself with an email address, rather than lurking in the bushes and throwning stones anomyously. Take responsibility for the things which you say.


News Item5/18/05 6:58 PM
Mike | New York  
Russell, please.

News Item5/18/05 6:32 PM
Russell L. Harris | Houston, Texas  Contact via email
Exodus 21:28-32 (LXX) - 28 And if a bull gore a man or woman and they die, the bull shall be stoned with stones, and his flesh shall not be eaten; but the owner of the bull shall be clear. 29 But if the bull should have been given to goring in former time, and men should have told his owner, and he have not removed him, but he should have slain a man or woman, the bull shall be stoned, and his owner shall die also. 30 And if a ransom should be imposed on him, he shall pay for the ransom of his soul as much as they shall lay upon him. 31 And if the bull gore a son or daughter, let them do to him according to this ordinance. 32 And if the bull gore a man-servant or maid-servant, he shall pay to their master thirty silver didrachms, and the bull shall be stoned.

News Item5/18/05 6:08 PM
I hate those dogs. Ugly as a rat's behind too.
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