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FRONT PAGE  |  2/8/2016
THURSDAY, MAR 24, 2005  |  100 comments
Schiavo Case Highlights Catholic-Evangelical Alliance
The powerful outcry over Terri Schiavo, the brain-damaged Florida woman whose case has provoked a national debate over whether she should live or die, is a testament to the growing alliance of conservative Roman Catholics and evangelicals who have found common cause in the "culture of life" agenda articulated by Pope John Paul II.

In their fight to keep their daughter alive, Ms. Schiavo's parents, who are Catholics, have been backed by an ad hoc coalition of Catholic and evangelical lobbyists, street organizers and legal advisers like the Rev. Frank Pavone, the Catholic priest who runs a group called Priests for Life and evangelical Protestants like Randall Terry, founder of Operation Rescue, and the Rev. Pat Mahoney of the National Clergy Council.

The struggle is only the latest indication of a strengthening religious alliance between denominations that were once bitterly divided. Evangelical ...


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News Item5/6/05 3:02 AM
Chris M | Australia  
I agree with you anon; I read it too and feel exactly the same way. I don't know anything about this Pavone guy but most of what he said in the blog seemed fair. To CWhite marriage is only until one partner gets sick then the whole contract is null and void it seems.
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News Item5/6/05 12:58 AM
anon  
CWhite

I was sickend to read the link you gave and your disregard for human life. You obviously have only listened to media and have not seen the video tapes of Terri smiling and trying to talk. She was not brain dead. You apparently are being spoon fed by the media and don't look into facts.

Too many people are so anticatholic, that they revolt against any humanity coming from a Catholic person. No wonder the prostitutes will enter The Kingdom of God before the scribes and pharisees. I wouldn't be suprised if many Catholics enter the Kingdom of God before some so called Christians.

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News Item5/6/05 12:48 AM
anon  
http://www.renewamerica.us/news/050331pavone.htm

May God bless Frank Pavone forever!

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News Item5/3/05 10:48 PM
CWhite | Florida  
At last, a "Faith-Based" site that allows comments from any reader, not just those who agree.

I'm sorry, but I strongly disagree with Rev. Frank Pavone in the Schiavo case. Read an exchange (http://eclecticfloridian.blogspot.com/2005/04/first-post-conversation-with-schiavo.html) between myself and Paul Schenck (Rev. Pavone's second in command) and see if you don't have second thoughts about the sincerity of these guys.

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News Item4/2/05 1:01 PM
John Yurich | USA  
D.,

I am not allowed on the Catholic forums because I was kicked off of the Catholic forums form making statements that are Protestant in nature. I am not deceiving myself about anything. Anglicans, Episcopalians, Methodists, Presbyterians, Lutherans, Billy Graham, Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, Oral Roberts and Kenneth Copeland all recogize that Catholics and Eastern Orthodox believe in the biblical Jesus. Catholics and Eastern Orthodox recite the Apostles and Nicene Creeds which state "We bellieve in ONE LORD JESUS CHRIST.". There it is right from the Apostles and Nicene Creeds. How much plainer can it be that Catholics and Eastern Orthodox believe in the biblical Jesus?

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News Item4/2/05 12:42 PM
D  
You've already been told over and over by others John. You are deceiving yourself. Stay on the Catholic forums and stop causing others on here to waste their time with you.
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News Item4/1/05 4:25 PM
John Yurich | USA  
D.,

Where do you come up with that nonsense that Catholics whether they are ordinary Catholic or Catholic Charismatics do not believe in the biblical Jesus? Catholics have always believed in the biblical Jesus because in the Apostles and Nicene Creeds it states "We believe in One Lord Jesus Christ.". Eastern Orthodox have always believed in the biblical Jesus also. So have Anglicans, Episcopalians, Methodists, Presbyterians and Lutherans. I am being led by the Holy Spirit to disregard the unscriptural doctrines and adhere only to the scriptural doctrines of the Catholic Church. There is a Lutheran Church in Minnesota called North Heights Lutheran Church that states on its web site www.nhlc.org that it is a Holy Spirit led church and that the Holy Spirit is leading that Lutheran Church to continue to adhere to ALL Lutheran doctrines including Infant Baptism, Confirmation, the belief in consubstantiation and the belief that the Virgin Mary remained ever virgin.

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News Item3/31/05 11:59 PM
D  
John, you've been told so much already. Catholics and Charismaniacs are accepting a nonbiblical Jesus. It doesn't matter what you believe, you are fellowshipping with devils. If you love the real Jesus and are truly born again, then you will love what He loves and hate what He hates. Can't be for righteousness if your not against unrighteousness, as Ovadel says. It's pretty simple.
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News Item3/31/05 12:24 PM
Jessica Dawson | Canada  
Peace be multiplied to you all!

May The Blessed Heavenly Father comfort our hearts today, as we mourning the passing of our Beloved Theresa Schindler-Schiavo.

"Blessed are those who mourn, for they shall be comforted."

Heavenly Father, into Your hands, I commit Theresa's spirit! Lord, you said in your Blessed, Holy, Infallable, Word, through your servant David, "If I regard iniquity in my heart, The LORD will not hear me." Lord, Mighty and Merciful Father, we who have been praying and toiling for Theresa, please forgive our many grievous sins. "Nothing is impossible, for him who believes", Oh God, forgive us our unbelief! Lord please may Terri's death not be in vain.....

Abba Father!

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News Item3/30/05 9:31 PM
Jessica Dawson | Canada  
The Grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all!

Christ spoke to Paul, "My grace is sufficient for thee, my strength is made perfect in weakness."

Terri in her weakness, has espoused many made strong! Her weakness, is drawing out, love and compassion in many hearts. All of us can identify; with times in our lives, where we have felt weak, shattered, helpless and worn, being in need of a Savior.

I declare Terri Schiavo, as "America's Sweetheart!"

Mary Lou Retton is a real sweet person and I am sure she won't mind. Glory to God in the Highest and peace to men on earth!

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News Item3/30/05 3:31 PM
msc | Michigan  Contact via email
Hi John,
Thanks for the info. If you find out more or have something else to say in regard to this, feel free to e-mail me. Thanks.
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News Item3/30/05 3:31 PM
Jessica Dawson | Canada  
God bless you all!

Concerning Recovered "Vegetative State" Patient Kate Adamson, who spoke Before Schiavo Rally. Kate at one point had her feeding tube removed for eight days, this was a most painful experience.

"This personal testimony confirms what Terri supporters have long suspected—that the execution sought by her husband Michael Schiavo is anything but painless and humane. Furthermore, Kate's remarkable recovery to nearly full mental and physical health—-she still suffers partial paralysis of her left side—-gives Terri supporters hope that Terri too may still experience a similar recovery, if granted proper care and treatment."

http://www.katesjourney.com/

May God's love endow us with strength, to speak for the weak, the helpless and the speachless! Praise The Lord!

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News Item3/30/05 2:49 PM
John Yurich | USA  
msc,

What I have been able to find out about Catholic Charismatics is that they have received Jesus as their personal savior and have also received the Baptism of the Holy Spirit and I believe that Catholic Charismatics do not believe that the Mass is a sacrifice, they do not believe in praying to the Virgin Mary and the Saints or asking for their intercession, they do not believe in Purgatory, they do not believe in transubstantiation and they do not believe that the Pope is infallible. That is the information that I have been able to find out about Catholic Charismatics.

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News Item3/30/05 1:46 PM
Peter  
Billy Bob

enlighten us...you said...
"It isn't the two church sacraments. It is the two church ordinances."

What is the difference?

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News Item3/30/05 9:51 AM
msc  Contact via email
John,
About this here:

"Catholic Charismatics are another example of Catholics who have received Jesus as their personal savior and have also received the Baptism of the Holy Spirit and they continue to attend Mass but they do not believe that the Mass is a sacrifice either and they do not believe in Purgatory or praying to the Virgin Mary or the Saints."

Just was curious about it. Do you have any info on this? I used to be Catholic and Charismatic, but didn't stay in the Church too long.

Thanks.

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News Item3/30/05 8:33 AM
John Yurich | USA  
msc,

What do you want to know?

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News Item3/29/05 6:25 PM
msc  Contact via email
John Yurich,
If you don't mind, could you please send me an e-mail. Thanks: krms72@hotmail.com
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News Item3/29/05 5:15 PM
A Sermon Audio Fan  
Get the book More Than These. It talks about Randall Terry, Frank Pavone, Richard John Neuhaus, and many others in the pro-life movement.

http://www.sermonaudio.com/source_prodcat.asp?sourceid=pcc

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News Item3/29/05 2:47 PM
John Yurich | USA  
ALBERT,

Why can't you recognize that there are Catholics who have received Jesus as their personal savior? Catholic Charismatics are another example of Catholics who have received Jesus as their personal savior and have also received the Baptism of the Holy Spirit and they continue to attend Mass but they do not believe that the Mass is a sacrifice either and they do not believe in Purgatory or praying to the Virgin Mary or the Saints. How come you do not have any difficulty accepting the fact that Martin Luther was a Born Again Christian even though Luther retained the majority of Catholic doctrines when he started the Lutheran Church. Go to www.nhlc.org and it states on that Lutheran Churches statement of faith that it is a Holy Spirit led church and that the Holy Spirit is leading that Lutheran Church to continue to adhere to all Lutheran doctrines including Infant Baptism, Confirmation, consubstantiation and the belief that the Virgin Mary remained ever virgin.

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News Item3/29/05 12:44 PM
ALBERT | NORTHERN IRELAND  
JOHN YURICH
Why don't you go to a lutheran church,you seem to like their doctrine.
Untill you come out of Rome,and stop going to the mass,know one will ever believe your born again.

Thats why "YE MUST BE BORN AGAIN"

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