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MONDAY, NOV 29, 2004  |  7 comments
Merry Chrismukkah!?


Blended holiday cards for Hanukkah and Christmas are on display at Rod's Hallmark store in Lawrence, Kan.

KANSAS CITY, Mo. - Every December, Zack and Hilary Rudman used to send out nonsectarian cards with winter scenes and generic holiday greetings.

Now, however, Zack Rudman, a Kansas City lawyer, has found a variety that seems to better suit a Jewish man and an Episcopal woman with two young children as familiar with the menorah as with a manger scene.

These cards proclaim: “Merry Chrismukkah!”

“I’m all for holiday cards but I want to make sure when we send something it respects both sides of our family,” Rudman said. “I always like to deal with religious differences with humor. These were right up my alley.” ...


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Alvin Crofts | Texas  Contact via email
If we would be truthful with ourselves the history is easy to trace, Christmas is yet one more pagan holiday Romans married to the faith. It saddens me that we celebrate a holiday based on falsehood. Romans could not keep "legislated christians" from observing saturnalia and sol-investus so they "christianized it". You will find no references to xmas before mid fourth century and no large acceptance of it until mid fifth century when the constantinians made it a "christian" holiday. I realize that this will upset a very "sacred cow" but the truth is you can't put Christ back into Christmas...he was never there to begin with.

The feast of dedication has a scriptural "reference" christmas does not (scripture does not "just mention" things with no significance)...we christians love our traditions just as much as any "lost" group of folks. Its the one time a year we can put terephim/images/idols out (manger scenes) and lie about "santa".
What a faith killer for kids if you lied about santa what about God?

The real tragedy here is that we are so self righteous clinging to pagan elements in Christianity.

Did Jesus "need" to be baptised by John? No but he did so to fulfill all righteousness..what makes you think that the feast of dedication - hanuka is any different?

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News Item12/1/04 2:08 PM
Jim | Nebraska  
Sectarian or generic Christmas cards would be the better thing to do. I would think they would offend both their Jewish and Christian friends.

Some relevant Bible verses:

(AKJV)
2Corinthians 6
14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
Nehemiah 13
3 Now it came to pass, when they had heard the law, that they separated from Israel all the mixed multitude.

If they have friends that are strong believers of either faith, this couple's latest "Xmas" card would be offensive to them.

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News Item12/1/04 11:24 AM
Robert Perry | Chaska MN  Contact via email
Quite right, Neil--and thank you for providing the text that I was (sigh) too lazy to provide myself. It does not prove that Jesus celebrated it--though we ought to consider that Jesus appears to have avoided Jerusalem unless He had a very good reason to be there.

Hence, I would infer that He may have been celebrating Channukah there. Thankfully, it's not a salvation issue!

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News Item11/30/04 4:05 PM
Neil | Tucson  
If you're referring to John 10:22-23, Jesus being in Jerusalem & walking in Solomon's Porch does not prove that He celebrated the Feast of Dedication.
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News Item11/30/04 3:39 PM
Robert Perry | Chaska MN  Contact via email
It always amazes me how people today can separate holidays from their meaning. I've celebrated both Christmas and Channukah for the real reasons, and to mix the two as "nonsectarian" seems to be such a waste.

Regarding the latter, no, I'm a goy as far as I know. Channukah (Dedication) can be worth celebrating because it was one means God used to preserve his word--from the pagan Greeks. Jesus appears to have celebrated it as well.

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News Item11/29/04 5:00 PM
albert | NORTHERN IRELAND  
"MERRY MASSMUKKAHRAMADAN"
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