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FRONT PAGE  |  7/25/2014
SUNDAY, NOV 14, 2004  |  21 comments
'God gene' discovered?
Religious belief is determined by a person's genetic make-up according to a study by a leading scientist.

After comparing more than 2,000 DNA samples, an American molecular geneticist has concluded that a person's capacity to believe in God is linked to brain chemicals.

His findings were criticised last night by leading clerics, who challenge the existence of a "god gene" and say that the research undermines a fundamental tenet of faith - that spiritual enlightenment is achieved through divine transformation rather than the brain's electrical impulses.

Dr Dean Hamer, the director of the Gene Structure and Regulation Unit at the National Cancer Institute in America, asked volunteers 226 questions in order to determine how spiritually connected they felt to the universe. The higher their score, the greater a person's ability to believe in a greater spiritual force and, Dr Hamer found, the more ...


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News Item9/2/07 1:47 PM
Dessie | WV  Find all comments by Dessie
Just another attempt to take the
Sovereign God out of the picture.
However, He is there and in complete
control and will save His Elect.
Human beings could never figure it out
and are all unworthly creatures.

Thank God for His love and care for
His children.

It is always a blessing to read the
comments of folks who always give
the Lord all the glory. Thank you.

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News Item9/2/07 10:14 AM
Abigail | Oregon  Find all comments by Abigail
"God gene discovered?"

Unregenerate people are crazy!

2Ti 1:7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.

In the love of Jesus Christ our Lord

Abigail

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News Item9/2/07 1:05 AM
CatMan  Find all comments by CatMan
It seems that most people want to find someone or something (as long as it is not themselves) to blame for their actions. It is time people take responsibility for themselves. You make the choice to recieve Christ or not. It is not genetic, it is personal.
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News Item3/7/05 9:41 AM
JT | Korea  
Well, that is such a relief! I thought that the reason folks weren't getting saved was because they were rejecting Christ. Now I understand that they just didn't have it in their genes!
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News Item11/20/04 7:04 AM
Dr. Roger Clark | Hameln, Germany  Contact via email
let´s just wait patiently for him to find out where he made a mistake in his reckoning.
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News Item11/15/04 9:54 PM
DJFan88 | Hyde Park Ma  
Every human cell has some purpose and looking at one through the eyes of a microscope show just how much more human cells are to say, the best computer.

Hey, DNA from one human has enough data to go from here to the moon and this is from sinful man who is degenerated in this life. Kent Hovind talks in depth on this subject on his video series and Ken Ham.

As for a "God gene," everyone has some kind of God in their life, even atheists
Is foremost in your life = the God or god.

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News Item11/15/04 12:04 PM
Mike | Mexico  
Thanks Robert, as always, for your scientific knowledge. You always help some of us who are not so up to date on the in's and out's of different things and studies. Your help in combatting scientifically the liberal homosexual studies I believe probably helps a good number of people on this site. Thank you again,
Mike
PS--My wife just asked if this was a sarcastic email. Not in the least. I am serious and do thank you.
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News Item11/15/04 11:50 AM
Robert Perry | Chaska MN  Contact via email
There is about 100MB of data in the human genetic code. To find a gene shared by 226 people is hence nearly a statistical certainty.

Dr. Hamer, by the way, is well known for this kind of study, having correlated homosexuality to a gene.

(and how, exactly, does such a gene get passed down, when what you're investigating takes a person out of the pool of breeders?)

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News Item11/15/04 8:00 AM
Jolee | Pennsylvania  
Anymore everything is linked to some gene or other . If your an alcoholic , you have a gene to blame . If your obese , you can claim that it's just bad gentics and not the fact that you make the wrong food chices . Smoke cigarettes for 20 years and get cancer , blame it on a gene , not on yourself . Homosexuality and child molesting is also gene related . This kind of thing really makes me doubt the scientific community knows much of anything , let alone to make claims that ones belief or lack of is caused by a "gene" . And who were the subjects of this "study " ? Born again christians ? or anyone who believes in God or a God ? In my oppinion there is a big differance between beleiving in just any God , and truely belonging to the living God through Salvation . They come up with all the differant genes and brainwaves and most of the time it just gives man an excuse to go on and do as he wants , not as God wants .
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News Item11/14/04 11:00 PM
mike | mexico  
Think what you wish Chris. you are wrong.
If I remember correctly, Yvonne came up with some history from Foxe's book of Martyrs that disproved your "theory."
And if you were in the same room with Walt, he wouldn't kill you Chris.
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News Item11/14/04 10:55 PM
Mike | mexico  
Think what you wish Chris. You are wrong.
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News Item11/14/04 10:40 PM
Mike | Mexico  
Chris, I'm on your tail again.
You and your talk about Calvinists being like muslims is such nonsense. You are very self-deceived. I don't want to kill you, but I will tell you that you are plain wrong.
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News Item11/14/04 10:40 PM
Chris M | Australia  
The great and only wise one here, so full of creeds, catechisms and (other) = Walt, wrote: "That is why I would recommend you be confined to a padded room and you should know it is quite common over here with people who have lost their senses and need constant medical care."

Wow, you have enough padded cells in the USA to house 60 million people?? (according to US statistics the number of Americans with some degree of mental condition - seriously).

I thought you executed these people? But back to the topic. The 'God gene' is a crock, as is Calvinism. But Calvin and Hobbes are cool. I read them in my cell

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News Item11/14/04 10:16 PM
Walt | Michigan  
Q.59. Who are made partakers of redemption through Christ?
A. Redemption is certainly applied, and effectually communicated, to all those for whom Christ hath purchased it (Eph.i.13-14, Jn.vi.37 & 39, Jn.x.15-16); who are in time by the Holy Ghost enabled to believe in Christ according to the gospel (Eph.ii.8, 2Cor.iv.13).
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News Item11/14/04 10:13 PM
Walt | Michigan  
Chris,

I really don't think you are a danger to anyone but yourself. That is why I would recommend you be confined to a padded room and you should know it is quite common over here with people who have lost their senses and need constant medical care.

Outside of the danger to yourself, it is possible that 2-3 people that might listen to your commentary (one which has been removed recently) are likely not to cause much confusion for the rest of the site who actually learn Scripture.

I do think that guys like you who preach hate of Calvinists should be put into more of a medical facility as compared to the Muslims who mostly hate all infidels (be they Christians or Jews or other races). They would need a bit more discipline in our court system, but for guys like yourself, I think it can be changed through medication and long walks in grassy fields.

Or, maybe even a good couple years of you going out into the bush and live with the animals. I know they would listen to your rambling and jokes!

Yes, you can go back to your cell now, we are all done correcting you for the day.

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News Item11/14/04 9:46 PM
Walt | Michigan  
Chris, for a guy who really belongs in a padded room so you won't hurt yourself, sometimes I do get a chuckle from your foolish jokes and your lack of basic Scriptural knowledge.

Over here we would say, "Your quite the hoot and a few bricks short of a full basement!"

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News Item11/14/04 9:28 PM
Chris M | Australia  
It's great fun to kick the Gnostic / Calvinist bee hive!

I've even got the king drone posting his loooong droneful stuff

Ha, ha, ha - time for a genetic test...

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News Item11/14/04 7:58 PM
Walt | Michigan  
Cont.,

"That which the learned call Arminianism-- is nothing else-- but the carnal reason of men's hearts, which is enmity to God.

It is that very argument which Paul in this chapter exclaims against, 'Who art thou, O man, that disputest?'

But certainly--all these devices are nothing befitting the "wisdom" or "sovereignty" of God-- but reflect upon both---upon his wisdom-- that he should have thoughts of creating the most noble of his creatures--and yet be in suspense about "the end" of the creature-- and have "that" in uncertainty --which way his glory shall indeed be manifested by it.

Is it not the first and chief thought of every wise man-- what he intends and aims at in his work--and according to the measure and extent of his wisdom--so he reaches further in his end and purpose?

Shall we then conceive that "the only wise God"-- so far to have mistaken himself--as to do that which no wise man would do--??

And predestination falls out-- not according to our behavior-- but according to the purpose of him who 'works all things' that he works, 'after the counsel of his own will,' without consulting our will."

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News Item11/14/04 7:53 PM
Walt | Michigan  
Amen Mike! You do understand correctly.

Hugh Binning wrote:

"It is a common criticism of carnal reason which asks--How can the Lord reject so many persons, and foreordain them to destruction?

It seems most contrary to his goodness and wisdom, to have such an end of eternal predestination before him-- in the creating of so many-- to make men for nothing, but to damn them.

Here-- carnal reason--which is enmity to God--triumphs--but consider-- I say, that this is not the Lord's end and chief design, to destroy men.

Even as it is not His majesty's "first intention," or "furthest purpose," to give unto others eternal life-- so it is not his "prime intent" to sink them into eternal death--as if that were his pleasure and delight. No, indeed!

Neither is the creature's happiness, nor its misery,-- that which first moves him, or is most desired of him-- but Himself only-- and he cannot move out of himself to any business, but he must return it unto himself.

Therefore the wise preacher expresses it well, 'He made all for himself, even the wicked for the day of evil.'"

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News Item11/14/04 7:48 PM
Mike | Mexico  
Once again, Chris M, you have no clue.
God is sovereign and man is responsible. You would do well to just let the two truths stand instead of pitting one against the other and trust the Lord.
But, no, again it's just the same old diatribe from one very bitter man (or boy?) How old are you again by the way?
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