Carl in Greensboro wrote: "The one who loves his brother abides in the light and there is not even a hint of cause for stumbling in him" (1 John 2:10). I love you Frank. I believe you are completely guileless in your assertions. And I agree with what I quoted from you above as I do with nearly all of your posts. My comments were not meant to cause harm. But before you "let it go" I do want to hear your opinion on what FG said in the article. Is not Obama and Holder passing and enforcing laws that are persecuting and oppressing God's elect? As I hinted at in my last post I have heard FG say some good things and some not so good things. But the thing that he said is this article is it not worthy of discussion and deep consideration? I would honestly like to read your comments on this even if FG is not legitimate in your eyes to sound the alarm.
Read my post to you again; I said I agreed with what Graham said. I never quoted or commented on what he said.
And thanks for your kind and loving response. My posts were for a different purpose than yours. If I deem someone to be "possibly" a false prophet, then I ignore anything they say spiritually and my guess is you do the same thing; such as Benny Hinn or someone like him.
Frank wrote: I could care less whether someone is reformed, liberal, conservative, or in the middle. The only thing I tend to observe is if they are in Christ and walking with Christ.
"The one who loves his brother abides in the light and there is not even a hint of cause for stumbling in him" (1 John 2:10). I love you Frank. I believe you are completely guileless in your assertions. And I agree with what I quoted from you above as I do with nearly all of your posts. My comments were not meant to cause harm.
But before you "let it go" I do want to hear your opinion on what FG said in the article. Is not Obama and Holder passing and enforcing laws that are persecuting and oppressing God's elect? As I hinted at in my last post I have heard FG say some good things and some not so good things. But the thing that he said is this article is it not worthy of discussion and deep consideration?
I would honestly like to read your comments on this even if FG is not legitimate in your eyes to sound the alarm.
p.s. No, I responded to slow. "...slow to speak = slow to wrath"
Brother Saint John UK Wales Imho a most beautiful sentiment for the child of God, The Doctrine of Total Abandonment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BYT_4VcoOc We Have Come Into His House
John UK wrote: But it is the most sensible thing in the world, to receive God's words, to hearken to them, to do what God says to do, to be totally submissive to God, and spend time thinking about the Doctrine of Total Abandonment, and then abandon themselves totally to the Lordship of Jesus Christ, lest he say to them, "Why call ye me Lord, Lord, and never do what I say for you to do."
Mike wrote: Carl- Frank- if an atheist says something that you know is objectively true, do you think it becomes less true because he's an atheist?
I was pondering only the spiritual principles of what someone says. Like I said to you before and you didn't respond, it is not like asking where the nearest MacDonalds is. I could care less whether the person was an atheist or not and I would probably never know. But, i do know about the Grahams so that makes it different. If you want to argue that what Graham is saying is similiar to where the nearest MacDonalds is then you are absolutely correct and we have no disagreement. My guess is the Holy Spirit wouldn't intervene in that discussion. I truly am arguing against the Grahams as representatives of Christ and you know that, so I don't understand your comment, and I believe I am on topic.
Besides, read my below comment to Carl and you will see that I actually agree with what he said. People who simply want to argue are confusing to me, so your comment is also confusing. I and everyone knows that you like the Grahams, so why not just say it? I personally would never listen to anything spiritual they say, but if I needed directions to drive somewhere, I wouldn't care.
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I appreciate the manner at which we are conversing. Thank you for going about this kindly. It's clear you understand exactly what my point is.
Why do I work so hard to provide for my family? Because it is right and proper to do so. Otherwise I would be worse than an unbeliever. And it gives me satisfaction when I lay my head on my pillow at night knowing it was a hard days work.
But until Babylon falls, I will have to use paper. Seems silly.
But soon all who dwell on the earth won't be able to buy or sell without the mark. What then?
It will be those with this mindset that won't take it. Complete reliance on the Lord. As it should be. Whether death or famine.
Alps Germanwings crash co-pilot Lubitz 'made prediction' from which, 'The Germanwings co-pilot thought to have deliberately crashed his Airbus in the French Alps, killing 150 people, predicted "one day everyone will know my name", his ex-girlfriend says.' I predict one of the biggest class-action lawsuits against any company you have ever seen!
Well you are insistent that the individual isn't important, but simply his message. The next time I listen the the catholic channel I will listen much more carefully. So you are saying that if someone says something, and they are not connected to the vine, then they can still tell us things that are spiritually good for us.
Staying on topic is largely in the eyes of individual readers, but I obviously thought I was more on topic than you are and still do. Now I will simply say this and then let it go. I could care less whether someone is reformed, liberal, conservative, or middle. The only thing I tend to observe is if they are in Christ and walking with Christ.
What did you think of the verses I provided. Were they on topic? I took the time to look them up for you. Are you pro Graham and don't think that he is an ecumenical that leads people to false religions like the RCC? Who don't you to? That will help me understand.
Please don't think I am upset with you or being unkind in any way. You and I think differently about these things. My guess is most will agree with you, but then I can't read their hearts.And just so you know, I actually agree with the things Graham said, but IMO it was more about him.
p., those who trade freedom for so-called security are foolish. I don't recall when I've thought or said otherwise.
Now to those who treasure this imaginary security, ask what do you think of when you hear the term "maximum security"? Liberals and their clinger wannabees, who say we must balance liberty with the need for security, are dense ignorers of history, and liars unfit for the rough seas of freedom. Liberty is not for sale. If you won't take risks to be free, what is it your security is protecting? You want a nice secure police state? Go somewhere with high walls, and leave the rest of us alone.
Frank wrote: Carl and Rodney, Can either of you come up with an instance when God said to follow anyone or ‚Äúspiritually‚ÄĚ listen to something that a false prophet says. This article isn't discussing Christ, but FG.
Correction: This article is not about FG it is about what FG said. What FG said is very apropos and is completely in line with what our Lord Jesus asked us to do in considering if the prophetic fig tree is coming to leaf.
I see 4887 active users are on SermonAudio as I compose this post. Tens of thousands more will faithfully access this site because they love the conservative reformed teachings. Some of the teachings are very good and other are, well, let's say not so good. And if I keep listening to the "good" speakers eventually I will hear a clunker of a message. And if I keep listening to the one who before gave a not so good message I find that the majority of the others are great. But whether good or bad or not so good I will never question whether the speaker is a false prophet or child of God. I don't have the pen or the eraser to the Book of Life.
It's best to stay on point unless the article is truly about the man rather than the message. Case in point: FG didn't write Jews and Their Lies, ML did.
i am going to take it that you have little or no contact in your life with conservatives. We were all complaining about this stuff from the get go in my neck of the woods and I am sure Mike from NY would say the same. Maybe your definition of a conservative is Jim from Lincoln. Only blind follower posting here is John Yurich.